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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    As a one Edward Vedder once said in NY MSG.... "and away....we go"...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/pelosi-top-democrats-privately-discuss-creation-of-select-committee-for-impeachment/2019/09/24/af6f735a-dedf-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,987
    It's about time. All the ignoring of subpoenas, lying, obstruction. I won't believe a soul-eater transcript either. I want to see the whistleblower's report. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,856
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Now tRump says he will release the transcript tomorrow.  
    With or without redactions? For “executive privilege” or “national security/attorney-client privilege?”
    Supposedly without....on Sunday though both Pompeo and Mnuchin said that they wouldn't release any transcripts due to confidentiality with foreign leaders

    fucking weird
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  • njnancy
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Now tRump says he will release the transcript tomorrow.  
    With or without redactions? For “executive privilege” or “national security/attorney-client privilege?”
    Supposedly without....on Sunday though both Pompeo and Mnuchin said that they wouldn't release any transcripts due to confidentiality with foreign leaders

    fucking weird
    He's lying. Trying to stop momentum. People should ignore anything he says he'll do or not do. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    mrussel1 said:
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
    Most Intel people who've commented say the same. It would be a series of unfortunate events.  So even if he had a "perfect" call, whatever that is,  it would only be one that the whistleblower probably reported. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    njnancy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
    Most Intel people who've commented say the same. It would be a series of unfortunate events.  So even if he had a "perfect" call, whatever that is,  it would only be one that the whistleblower probably reported. 
    Here's the dicey part.  Does the House raise the articles based on the admin not allowing constitutionally mandated oversight, or for the call itself?  If the latter, and the whole thing turns out to be a dud, then they walked into a Trump trap.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,301
    mrussel1 said:
    njnancy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Releasing the transcript is one simple piece, but it won't end anything.  The whistleblower complaint could very well be the culmination of a series of calls and events, not just one.  
    Most Intel people who've commented say the same. It would be a series of unfortunate events.  So even if he had a "perfect" call, whatever that is,  it would only be one that the whistleblower probably reported. 
    Here's the dicey part.  Does the House raise the articles based on the admin not allowing constitutionally mandated oversight, or for the call itself?  If the latter, and the whole thing turns out to be a dud, then they walked into a Trump trap.  
    Acting DNI Director has been ordered to appear before the house, make the whistle blower available and release the full Team Trump Treason Appointed IG’s report. Failure to do so or to withhold parts/aspects may be the basis of impeachment. Regardless, there needs to be yet another investigation to determine the facts. There’s more going in than we know.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,987




    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,987
    Nixon tried to pull that transcript scam in Watergate.
    When the Congress finally got the tapes and compared them...they were not the same.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,856
    Tomorrow will be interesting
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Kat said:




    I was hoping we were going to hear directly. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    oftenreading said:
    Kat said:




    I was hoping we were going to hear directly. 
    Hopefully eventually, but this has to go through intelligence committee by law, I believe.  
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I love the little clicker CNN is running live, on screen,  which shows the # of dems in house backing impeachment, lol. Last I checked we’re at 160. I hope they keep it up all night. Any bets on what we’ll be by 12:00am? I’m going with 167.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    Hi! said:
    I love the little clicker CNN is running live, on screen,  which shows the # of dems in house backing impeachment, lol. Last I checked we’re at 160. I hope they keep it up all night. Any bets on what we’ll be by 12:00am? I’m going with 167.
    last I saw was 164
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,301
    Only 4 more to go.
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  • Hi!
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    I don’t see 164 yet. The CNN clicker did go up one to 161. I only believe the CNN clicker, lol.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    Hi! said:
    I don’t see 164 yet. The CNN clicker did go up one to 161. I only believe the CNN clicker, lol.
    yeah, can't remember where I saw that. I could be remembering the number incorrectly. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,856
    edited September 2019
    All Senate GOP agree that tRump admin should cough up the whistleblower complaint...not just the transcript.  This is interesting
    https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1176595517570203651
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