“I stand with planned parenthood” bans off

thebuilder
thebuilder Rifle, CO Posts: 174
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weird that I don’t see PJ on this list of bands..

https://www.istandwithpp.org/bans-off-my-body/band-together
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,578
    I was surprised as well.

  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,721
    Have you considered the possibility that maybe their feelings on the subject have changed and evolved as they grow older?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    edited August 2019
    shecky said:
    Have you considered the possibility that maybe their feelings on the subject have changed and evolved as they grow older?
    They raised money for the organization through a t-shirt sale just a few years ago. So I doubt it very much.
    Post edited by JimmyV on
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,633
    Maybe the band just thought it was another email about the fan club singles, and ignored it.
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    shecky said:
    Have you considered the possibility that maybe their feelings on the subject have changed and evolved as they grow older?
    I doubt very much that now they are suddenly against women's rights 
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,578
    Also, is that really considered an evolution? Seems more like a devolution.

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,578
    kramer73 said:
    Maybe the band just thought it was another email about the fan club singles, and ignored it.
    fucking lol
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    JimmyV said:
    shecky said:
    Have you considered the possibility that maybe their feelings on the subject have changed and evolved as they grow older?
    They raised money for the organization through a t-shirt sale just a few years ago. So I doubt it very much.
    Be cool if they did another round of those shirts. Missed out the first time.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,578
    I bought one, but I really dislike the grey color. Pink on black, white or blue would have been better.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,786
    shecky said:
    Have you considered the possibility that maybe their feelings on the subject have changed and evolved as they grow older?

    Considering how vocally pro choice they've been over the years, this possibility wouldn't even enter my mind.

    COULD they change their opinion on the matter? Sure, anything is possible, but I would be very surprised if they did.

  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Hobbes said:
    JimmyV said:
    shecky said:
    Have you considered the possibility that maybe their feelings on the subject have changed and evolved as they grow older?
    They raised money for the organization through a t-shirt sale just a few years ago. So I doubt it very much.
    Be cool if they did another round of those shirts. Missed out the first time.
    My better half had hers on last night. She loves it. If Pearl Jam wanted to release a new design they'd definitely get me to buy her another one. 
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,721
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, is that really considered an evolution? Seems more like a devolution.

     Actually, in the strictest of terms, abortion IS "de-evolution. How could mankind, or any species, have evolved if their offspring were not allowed to live?

  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    shecky said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, is that really considered an evolution? Seems more like a devolution.

     Actually, in the strictest of terms, abortion IS "de-evolution. How could mankind, or any species, have evolved if their offspring were not allowed to live?

    Devolution in thinking is what was meant, I think.
    Man has made decisions that end human life every day for thousands of years.
    Women need the right to make decisions about their health and life. The band will always support that.

  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Not too long ago Jill Vedder posted Ed during unplugged on mtv writing “pro choice” on his arm and told her daughters that their father was fighting for women long before they were born and how proud they should be. Not sure about anyone else but the Vedders seem to still support PP and women no matter what.

  • link93
    link93 Posts: 414
    I’m sure the bands position hasn’t changed and they are very much pro choice. 
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,721
    edited August 2019
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    shecky said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, is that really considered an evolution? Seems more like a devolution.

     Actually, in the strictest of terms, abortion IS "de-evolution. How could mankind, or any species, have evolved if their offspring were not allowed to live?

    Devolution in thinking is what was meant, I think.
    Man has made decisions that end human life every day for thousands of years.
    Women need the right to make decisions about their health and life. The band will always support that.

    So, you are the spokesperson for Tim S., who made the statement that I commented on, and for Pearl Jam, too? 
    Post edited by shecky on
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    shecky said:
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    shecky said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, is that really considered an evolution? Seems more like a devolution.

     Actually, in the strictest of terms, abortion IS "de-evolution. How could mankind, or any species, have evolved if their offspring were not allowed to live?

    Devolution in thinking is what was meant, I think.
    Man has made decisions that end human life every day for thousands of years.
    Women need the right to make decisions about their health and life. The band will always support that.

    So, you are officially the spokesperson for Tim S., who made the statement that I commented on, and for Pearl Jam, too? 
    If the person was officially the spokesperson for another user, why would he/she use "I think"?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,578
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    shecky said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Also, is that really considered an evolution? Seems more like a devolution.

     Actually, in the strictest of terms, abortion IS "de-evolution. How could mankind, or any species, have evolved if their offspring were not allowed to live?

    Devolution in thinking is what was meant, I think.
    Man has made decisions that end human life every day for thousands of years.
    Women need the right to make decisions about their health and life. The band will always support that.

    This is what I meant.

  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,721
    cblock4life said:
    Not too long ago Jill Vedder posted Ed during unplugged on mtv writing “pro choice” on his arm and told her daughters that their father was fighting for women long before they were born and how proud they should be. Not sure about anyone else but the Vedders seem to still support PP and women no matter what.

    Well, I'm glad we are able to have friendly and civil discussions about a heavy topic like this. I believe in abortion rights for women, but with some sensible time limitations. There are many people that think that a full-term baby should be able to be aborted literally the day before it is due to be born. I just can't agree with that extreme position. And, I'm always confused by statements like: " ...fighting for women...". My question is, who is fighting for the baby woman, i.e. the full-term baby girl, who has no voice whatsoever in this decision and will never get to be born and become a woman? Doesn't anyone care about her?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,578
    edited August 2019
    shecky said:
    cblock4life said:
    Not too long ago Jill Vedder posted Ed during unplugged on mtv writing “pro choice” on his arm and told her daughters that their father was fighting for women long before they were born and how proud they should be. Not sure about anyone else but the Vedders seem to still support PP and women no matter what.

    There are many people that think that a full-term baby should be able to be aborted literally the day before it is due to be born. 
    OK, but let’s be clear, that’s about 1% of abortions and usually its related to the mothers health or the baby's viability. It's never someone peacing out on being pregnant. 



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