Nirvana. Overrated?

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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,889
    edited August 2019
    I dont think Ten is that relevant to the conversation, as I dont think it is a PJ vs Nirvana thing (at least to me).  I mean, if a teenager in 2035 for some reason wants to listen to an entire album from the early 1990s, someone will probably recommend Nevermind, Ten, Siamese Dream, Rage Against The Machine, Dirt, Core, The Chronic, etc...  Not sure any of them stand above the others definitively at that point.  
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    This thread is pointless, we'll never come to an agreement. You have those that love Nirvana and those that don't. Agree to disagree.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,997
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    This thread is pointless, we'll never come to an agreement. You have those that love Nirvana and those that don't. Agree to disagree.
    I don't think it's pointless. these discussions happen all the time, and I particularly enjoy the debate. I love Nirvana, but can also agree with some points that they benefited from right place/right time/right type of music and production/record company push. 
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    This thread is pointless, we'll never come to an agreement. You have those that love Nirvana and those that don't. Agree to disagree.
    Pretty much all threads on the internet are pointless in the end.

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    rummy said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    This thread is pointless, we'll never come to an agreement. You have those that love Nirvana and those that don't. Agree to disagree.
    Pretty much all threads on the internet are pointless in the end.

    and most discussion in real life. Words are meaningless. We talk too much.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    If Nevermind isn't "polished" it doesn't resonate and is not the hit it was. I think it sounds fantastic nearly three decades on.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,997
    rummy said:
    If Nevermind isn't "polished" it doesn't resonate and is not the hit it was. I think it sounds fantastic nearly three decades on.
    I agree with this. I probably wouldn't have liked it if it hadn't been. I mean, when they rushed out Incesticide, I hated it. It was way too fuzzy and underproduced and my ears couldn't take it. Now? I fucking love that compilation. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,195
    I hope Nirvana presses the Devonshire mixes of Nevermind on vinyl for a RSD or something. I've been enjoying that mix a ton since it came out a few years ago.

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Never heard of this mix
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,651
    How was the 2013 in utero mix versus the album?

    I puke on remixes. Stand by your art. That includes ten.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How was the 2013 in utero mix versus the album?

    I puke on remixes. Stand by your art. That includes ten.
    I don't like the In Utero remix but I prefer the remastered version.
    As for Ten, I love the Redux version more than the original or the remastered version. I only listen to a Redux now.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,651
    edited August 2019
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How was the 2013 in utero mix versus the album?

    I puke on remixes. Stand by your art. That includes ten.
    I don't like the In Utero remix but I prefer the remastered version.
    As for Ten, I love the Redux version more than the original or the remastered version. I only listen to a Redux now.
    Are you one of those miserable people who prefer the SE cut of Terminator 2 over the TC?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,195
    I enjoy new mixes on old albums (like these new Beatles mixes Giles Martin has been doing).

    you get so familiar with these records, that you just kinda stop appreciating them in a certain way, or you just get burnt out on them. But a new mix can put a fresh perspective on something that either makes you re-examine it, or at least gives it a fresh life again. 

    I feel eel like the new In Utero mix does that. Ten Redux too. 
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How was the 2013 in utero mix versus the album?

    I puke on remixes. Stand by your art. That includes ten.
    I don't like the In Utero remix but I prefer the remastered version.
    As for Ten, I love the Redux version more than the original or the remastered version. I only listen to a Redux now.
    Are you one of those miserable people who prefer the SE cut of Terminator 2 over the TC?
    Haha. Don't know the difference. I only watch it if it's on the TV. Don't own it.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Tim Simmons said:
    I enjoy new mixes on old albums (like these new Beatles mixes Giles Martin has been doing).

    you get so familiar with these records, that you just kinda stop appreciating them in a certain way, or you just get burnt out on them. But a new mix can put a fresh perspective on something that either makes you re-examine it, or at least gives it a fresh life again. 

    I feel eel like the new In Utero mix does that. Ten Redux too. 
    Sgt. Pepper and White Album remixes are sp amazing. My go to versions. Giles did a tremendous job. Speaking of which, I don't think Abbey road needs a remix. My 2009 version sounds fine.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610
    Properly rated while Kurt was alive, absolutely overrated ever since.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I prefer Bleach over In Utero.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    I think I'd rather drink bleach than listen to it.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I think I'd rather drink bleach than listen to it.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    No. They were the ones that got recognition first, but Soundgarden did it better and for longer. I don't consider PJ the same music, but their return to a more raw rock sound was a part of the revolution.
    It's a hopeless situation...

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