US darling Ronald Reagan called black people "monkeys"

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited July 2019
    cincybearcat said:
    Never ok to say.  This seems strange to release as it was 1 line from 50 years ago.  


    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    It was removed from the audiorecording up till Reagans death because someone thought it would be a story and show Reagan/Nixon as shitty. 

    I don't know why it hasn't come out till now though - maybe no one had reason to listen through it after it not being classified anymore until now?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,017
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    My dad never had a call with Nixon to my knowledge,  so I can't say for sure.   
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    My dad never had a call with Nixon to my knowledge,  so I can't say for sure.   
    He never said anything about having been on the phone with a non-crook?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,017
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    My dad never had a call with Nixon to my knowledge,  so I can't say for sure.   
    He never said anything on having been on the phone with a non-crook?
    I don't understand this sentence. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited July 2019
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,017
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Philadelphia Mississippi.  We're all way ahead of you. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously gives a new perspective. Or is racism so normalised for you that you two need to take this defensive position?
    Defensive?  I have no doubt that Reagan said something like this back then.  Was it more normalized for people to say things like that in 1971?  Probably so...Would a statement like that be acceptable now?  Maybe in Sweden.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,236
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Philadelphia Mississippi.  We're all way ahead of you. 
    Bro I ve had kids crying after I taught that lesson. You can hear a pin drop when I am going through my presentation.  That is some rough stuff right there. Did you see that mrs Bryant admitted to making the whole thing up?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,017
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Philadelphia Mississippi.  We're all way ahead of you. 
    Bro I ve had kids crying after I taught that lesson. You can hear a pin drop when I am going through my presentation.  That is some rough stuff right there. Did you see that mrs Bryant admitted to making the whole thing up?  
    You mean that Emmit never said a word? Yes.. horrible. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,236
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Philadelphia Mississippi.  We're all way ahead of you. 
    Bro I ve had kids crying after I taught that lesson. You can hear a pin drop when I am going through my presentation.  That is some rough stuff right there. Did you see that mrs Bryant admitted to making the whole thing up?  
    You mean that Emmit never said a word? Yes.. horrible. 
    Yeah. I believe she admitted to it on her deathbed.  What an absolute pos. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,236
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Slow news day for sure.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • josevolution
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    cincybearcat said:
    josevolution said:
    Does anyone here think or believe Obama talked like this about the white people of this country?
    I'm not sure what you are getting at...Reagan didn't say this about black people of this country either.  
    So I guess there weren’t any blacks from Africa living here my bad ...
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  • josevolution
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    Can we just refrain from making this a Sweden vs America issue ..
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,310
    edited July 2019
    Saying it about black people of any country is wrong. Full stop. That 40 years later repubs continue to nominate, and voters continue to elect, racists is why what Ronny Rayguns said 49 years ago is relevant today.
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  • mrussel1
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    josevolution said:
    Can we just refrain from making this a Sweden vs America issue ..
    As soon as we stop applying broad statements to the whole of 300 million people,  sure.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    Can we just refrain from making this a Sweden vs America issue ..
    As soon as we stop applying broad statements to the whole of 300 million people,  sure.  
    Murder she wrote. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,017
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    josevolution said:
    Can we just refrain from making this a Sweden vs America issue ..
    As soon as we stop applying broad statements to the whole of 300 million people,  sure.  
    Murder she wrote. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,977
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    Um, a LOT of people in 1971 actually did not call black people monkeys. I can't believe you think that "most" people said stuff like that at that time. I guarantee you that my parents would NEVER use that language when talking about black people, and have never use any kind of racist slurs... And my parents are actually kind of racist! Even some racist people would think that was unacceptable in 1971 FFS.
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