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US darling Ronald Reagan called black people "monkeys"

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,019
edited July 2019 in A Moving Train

Newly released tape reveals Ronald Reagan using racist language: 'Those monkeys from those African countries'



  • Reagan said, "To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!"
  • Reagan's comments prompted laughter from Nixon.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ronald-reagan-uses-racist-language-against-africans-in-released-tape-2019-7?r=US&IR=T


Something about the republican party's ideals makes them look down on people, being racist, not seeing the point of universal health care like THE REST OF THE DEVELOPED WORLD, denying women rights and denying climate change. Funny that party even is an option for people. Interesting that people would vote for them.


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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,122
    As far as I can see is anyone surprised that kind of racist language goes on behind closed doors. It's STILL happening today starting with POTUS.

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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    The party of Jesus
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,300
    Does anyone here think or believe Obama talked like this about the white people of this country?
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    Certainly a terrible comment to make.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,024
    josevolution said:
    Does anyone here think or believe Obama talked like this about the white people of this country?
    If he did he gets a pass for the person he has become.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    josevolution said:
    Does anyone here think or believe Obama talked like this about the white people of this country?
    I'm not sure what you are getting at...Reagan didn't say this about black people of this country either.  
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    I think he thought Bonzo was a person to boot.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    And to think this happened in the 80s, only 40 years ago,  about the same amount of time that passed since Scandinavia was complicit with the Nazis extermination of undesirables.  It really boggles the mind. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Oh my bad.  71, 50 years ago... less time had passed since the war crimes. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,019
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    And to think this happened in the 80s, only 40 years ago,  about the same amount of time that passed since Scandinavia was complicit with the Nazis extermination of undesirables.  It really boggles the mind. 
    What has that to do with anything in this thread?

    And you do know that two of the countries belonging to "Scandinavia" got invaded by Nazis... so you need to brush up on your geography and/or history.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,931
    mrussel1 said:
    And to think this happened in the 80s, only 40 years ago,  about the same amount of time that passed since Scandinavia was complicit with the Nazis extermination of undesirables.  It really boggles the mind. 
    The phone call in question was actually in 1971. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    bbiggs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And to think this happened in the 80s, only 40 years ago,  about the same amount of time that passed since Scandinavia was complicit with the Nazis extermination of undesirables.  It really boggles the mind. 
    The phone call in question was actually in 1971. 
    Yeah I saw and corrected.  Thanks.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And to think this happened in the 80s, only 40 years ago,  about the same amount of time that passed since Scandinavia was complicit with the Nazis extermination of undesirables.  It really boggles the mind. 
    What has that to do with anything in this thread?

    And you do know that two of countries belonging to "Scandinavia" got invaded by Nazis... so you need to brush up on your geography and/or history.
    Its just astounding that sometimes people use horrible words.  And then other times,  people assist with genocide.  It's all terrible.  I didn't vote until 92 and wasn't even born in 71 though. Never liked Reagan either way, similar to many Americans.  
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,019
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And to think this happened in the 80s, only 40 years ago,  about the same amount of time that passed since Scandinavia was complicit with the Nazis extermination of undesirables.  It really boggles the mind. 
    What has that to do with anything in this thread?

    And you do know that two of countries belonging to "Scandinavia" got invaded by Nazis... so you need to brush up on your geography and/or history.
    Its just astounding that sometimes people use horrible words.  And then other times,  people assist with genocide.  It's all terrible.  I didn't vote until 92 and wasn't even born in 71 though. Never liked Reagan either way, similar to many Americans.  
    No one said you did... you come off a bit like Trump now with this projection-sounding thing coming out of nowhere or like the guilty people in Murder She Wrote that can't help themselves from talking too much when Mrs Fletcher is in the room...
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And to think this happened in the 80s, only 40 years ago,  about the same amount of time that passed since Scandinavia was complicit with the Nazis extermination of undesirables.  It really boggles the mind. 
    What has that to do with anything in this thread?

    And you do know that two of countries belonging to "Scandinavia" got invaded by Nazis... so you need to brush up on your geography and/or history.
    Its just astounding that sometimes people use horrible words.  And then other times,  people assist with genocide.  It's all terrible.  I didn't vote until 92 and wasn't even born in 71 though. Never liked Reagan either way, similar to many Americans.  
    No one said you did... you come off a bit like Trump now with this projection-sounding thing coming out of nowhere or like the guilty people in Murder She Wrote that can't help themselves from talking too much when Mrs Fletcher is in the room...
    I didn't watch old people TV in the 80s. Maybe make a Hart to Hart reference though.  
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    Never ok to say.  This seems strange to release as it was 1 line from 50 years ago.  


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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
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    Just thinking about my own life and some of the shit I’ve said, glad it wasn’t recorded. 

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,019
    edited July 2019
    cincybearcat said:
    Never ok to say.  This seems strange to release as it was 1 line from 50 years ago.  


    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    It was removed from the audiorecording up till Reagans death because someone thought it would be a story and show Reagan/Nixon as shitty. 

    I don't know why it hasn't come out till now though - maybe no one had reason to listen through it after it not being classified anymore until now?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,019
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    My dad never had a call with Nixon to my knowledge,  so I can't say for sure.   
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,019
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    My dad never had a call with Nixon to my knowledge,  so I can't say for sure.   
    He never said anything about having been on the phone with a non-crook?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Im pretty most of our parents made a disparaging remark in 71, regardless of the country of origin. 
    When being in a call with the President?
    My dad never had a call with Nixon to my knowledge,  so I can't say for sure.   
    He never said anything on having been on the phone with a non-crook?
    I don't understand this sentence. 
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,019
    edited July 2019
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Philadelphia Mississippi.  We're all way ahead of you. 
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously gives a new perspective. Or is racism so normalised for you that you two need to take this defensive position?
    Defensive?  I have no doubt that Reagan said something like this back then.  Was it more normalized for people to say things like that in 1971?  Probably so...Would a statement like that be acceptable now?  Maybe in Sweden.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Comment is made in 1971; I am trying to understand why this is a story.  
    Slow news day I guess?  This kind of stuff gives me a bad taste for the media and their constant pot stirring.  If I said “hey, Lincoln said some pretty racist shit” (which he did), is it really going to blow anyone’s mind at this juncture?
    Ace Frehley uses "at this juncture" so often it has become a meme in the KISS community.

    And, why be so defensive of Reagan? Why not report on him having said black people were monkeys who couldn't even tie their shoes? It obviously adds a new perspective on the man. Or is racism so normalised to you two that you feel the need to take this defensive position?
    Philadelphia Mississippi.  We're all way ahead of you. 
    Bro I ve had kids crying after I taught that lesson. You can hear a pin drop when I am going through my presentation.  That is some rough stuff right there. Did you see that mrs Bryant admitted to making the whole thing up?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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