Where would you rather live the US or Sweden

** Sweden has the HIGHEST per capita number of reported rapes in Europe.

** This number of rapes has quadrupled in the last 20 years.

** The conviction rates? They have steadily DECREASED.

https://www.greennet.org.uk/network/news/sweden-has-worst-rape-conviction-record-europe

Maybe it is because of the smelly undateable Swedish men getting frustrated?  Too many “incels”?   Get a handle on your rapists Sweden!  Maybe the women there should be allowed to carry firearms to protect themselves?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I doubt @mcgruff10 can handle this comment without comparing to Sweden but it is pretty freaking scary that you can be forced to marry someone at 12 years old.  That is insane.

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I doubt @mcgruff10 can handle this comment without comparing to Sweden but it is pretty freaking scary that you can be forced to marry someone at 12 years old.  That is insane.

While many of those are just old laws that never changed and the practice is far from common...it is still pretty weird to not close those loopholes and just make this right.  It's icky and weird not to.

PJPOWER said:

I guess it is okay to rape people in Sweden?

** Sweden has the HIGHEST per capita number of reported rapes in Europe.

** This number of rapes has quadrupled in the last 20 years.

** The conviction rates? They have steadily DECREASED.

https://www.greennet.org.uk/network/news/sweden-has-worst-rape-conviction-record-europe

Maybe it is because of the smelly undateable Swedish men getting frustrated?  Too many “incels”?   Get a handle on your rapists Sweden!  Maybe the women there should be allowed to carry firearms to protect themselves?

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

I guess it is okay to rape people in Sweden?

** Sweden has the HIGHEST per capita number of reported rapes in Europe.

** This number of rapes has quadrupled in the last 20 years.

** The conviction rates? They have steadily DECREASED.

https://www.greennet.org.uk/network/news/sweden-has-worst-rape-conviction-record-europe

Maybe it is because of the smelly undateable Swedish men getting frustrated?  Too many “incels”?   Get a handle on your rapists Sweden!  Maybe the women there should be allowed to carry firearms to protect themselves?

I guess they don't #believewomen over there. Sad state of affairs. 

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

I can’t wait for tomorrow’s tirade!  What will be next?  Free Pitt 13 poster for the person who correctly guesses tomorrow’s topic. 

Something nonsensical meant to try and goad someone into calling they a name which they could then flag & would earn someone else a time out.

The flip side is that there are likely to be many silly attempts to do the same to they.

Why I called this thread "dumb"

I do see a much smaller percentage of the posts here, due to the ignore button.  Still is clear that it is a gang up on someone.  (Albeit someone who wants/loves/craves the attention, in any way that they can get it.  And someone who consistently works diligently to troll anyone who takes an opposing viewpoint.)

PJPOWER said:

I guess it is okay to rape people in Sweden?

** Sweden has the HIGHEST per capita number of reported rapes in Europe.

** This number of rapes has quadrupled in the last 20 years.

** The conviction rates? They have steadily DECREASED.

https://www.greennet.org.uk/network/news/sweden-has-worst-rape-conviction-record-europe

Maybe it is because of the smelly undateable Swedish men getting frustrated?  Too many “incels”?   Get a handle on your rapists Sweden!  Maybe the women there should be allowed to carry firearms to protect themselves?

there are some things we need to take into consideration.

• Differences in reported crime across countries are usually related to different reporting rates by victims (and/or detection by the police). Also different definitions of criminal offences by countries, and different counting rules, make comparisons difficult according to Enrico Bisogno, the chief of data development and dissemination at the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime (UNODC).

• ”When a woman comes to the police and says ’my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year’, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record – one victim, one type of crime, one record”, Klara Selin, a sociologist at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm, told BBC.

• In 2005, Sweden broadened its definition of rape. The word ”rape” can since then be used to record acts which would be called assault or bodily harm in other countries, according to The Local. That led to an increase in the number of rapes reported in the country in the years following the law change.

• In Sweden, women are encouraged to report rape cases. It appears, The Independent writes, that ”it is possible that in other countries there is a far stronger stigma around reporting rape than in Sweden”
  
  

• + A new law that makes having sex with someone who hasn't actively agreed to it rape. As in, having sex with someone who is very drunk or unable to say yes to it is rape. Even if they haven't said no.

• 
  
  Where do you think a woman feel the most secure to report a rape? In secular Sweden who has had an active fight for equality and women's rights? Or over-religious US with wild-wild-west-judges and historically backwards views on equality?
  
  

  The Brock Turner case as an example (incident stopped by Swedish students I might add) and:
  
  
  

  Judge Ralph Strother accepted a plea deal from Jacob Walter Anderson Monday over a 2016 rape allegation in which the victim says she was gagged, choked, led behind a tent and repeatedly raped. Strother sentenced Anderson to deferred probation after his no contest plea, even after hearing a harrowing statement from the woman about how Anderson ‘stole my body, virginity and power over my body.’ She was attacked while studying at Baylor University in Waco, Texas.

  /.../
  
  Last year, Strother sentenced another man to deferred probation even after he admitted raping another Baylor student in 2013. The judge also ordered the man to pay for his victim’s counseling. And earlier this year, Strother sentenced a third man for felony probation for the sexual assault of another woman who attended Baylor University. That saw him ordered to serve 30 days in jail, but the sex attacker was allowed to complete his sentence over a number of weekends.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

I guess it is okay to rape people in Sweden?

** Sweden has the HIGHEST per capita number of reported rapes in Europe.

** This number of rapes has quadrupled in the last 20 years.

** The conviction rates? They have steadily DECREASED.

https://www.greennet.org.uk/network/news/sweden-has-worst-rape-conviction-record-europe

Maybe it is because of the smelly undateable Swedish men getting frustrated?  Too many “incels”?   Get a handle on your rapists Sweden!  Maybe the women there should be allowed to carry firearms to protect themselves?

there are some things we need to take into consideration.

• Differences in reported crime across countries are usually related to different reporting rates by victims (and/or detection by the police). Also different definitions of criminal offences by countries, and different counting rules, make comparisons difficult according to Enrico Bisogno, the chief of data development and dissemination at the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime (UNODC).

• ”When a woman comes to the police and says ’my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year’, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record – one victim, one type of crime, one record”, Klara Selin, a sociologist at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm, told BBC.

• In 2005, Sweden broadened its definition of rape. The word ”rape” can since then be used to record acts which would be called assault or bodily harm in other countries, according to The Local. That led to an increase in the number of rapes reported in the country in the years following the law change.

• In Sweden, women are encouraged to report rape cases. It appears, The Independent writes, that ”it is possible that in other countries there is a far stronger stigma around reporting rape than in Sweden”
  
  

• 
  
  Where do you think a woman feel the most secure to report a rape? In secular Sweden who has had an active fight for equality and women's rights? Or over-religious US with wild-wild-west-judges and historically backwards views on equality?
  
  

  The Brock Turner case as an example (incident stopped by Swedish students I might add) and:
  
  
  

  Judge Ralph Strother accepted a plea deal from Jacob Walter Anderson Monday over a 2016 rape allegation in which the victim says she was gagged, choked, led behind a tent and repeatedly raped. Strother sentenced Anderson to deferred probation after his no contest plea, even after hearing a harrowing statement from the woman about how Anderson ‘stole my body, virginity and power over my body.’ She was attacked while studying at Baylor University in Waco, Texas.

  /.../
  
  Last year, Strother sentenced another man to deferred probation even after he admitted raping another Baylor student in 2013. The judge also ordered the man to pay for his victim’s counseling. And earlier this year, Strother sentenced a third man for felony probation for the sexual assault of another woman who attended Baylor University. That saw him ordered to serve 30 days in jail, but the sex attacker was allowed to complete his sentence over a number of weekends.

Your country still allows 12 years old, and 16 years old as @mcgruff10 pointed out to marry.

Meltdown99 said:

There is no need for the thread to get shutdown.  The conversation has not turned personal...