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You’d be dope with your maga hat cocked to the side and a cold chick fa lay sandwich in each hand.mrussel1 said:
Excellent point, I stand corrected. Perhaps I can conjure up a kick-ass meme about it and get invited to the WH.Halifax2TheMax said:
Shit hole? I don’t believe I heard Team Trump Treason mention it in his list. Fake news.mrussel1 said:
Sweden's a shit hole compared to the US. The flat tax income system pushes people swiftly into the top marginal tax bracket, at what? 1.5% of the average maybe..less? Hey thanks for being a great producer, your reward is doubled up tax rate to pay for the deadbeats that can't get a decent job. No thanks. Oh yeah, but make sure you thank them for paying for your college.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You are so fucking lost. Just throwing out things you've picked up from wherever. Without knowing shit.mrussel1 said:
In the US it's customary to grow up, move out and make you're own way. Relying in your mom or the welfare state to keep you afloat is necessary for some I'm sure, but I think in our culture, it's not something to be proud of or want to be that way in perpetuity. That just seems so foreign.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:
Sorry I didn't know that you were low income. My bad. I guess that's why you don't mind other people paying for your standard of living. I was raised differently. It's probably just a cultural thing.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I pay 25%. If you are speaking percentage of pay.mrussel1 said:
Yep I'll do that gladly with my 24% effective rate. Thanks. And you can sleep well in your second rate country as well. I aim high, you aim... let's call it mediocre at best.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No. Its pretty obvious.mrussel1 said:Bernie forgot to mention tax rates in his tweet. That's seems like an unusual oversight on his part.
Abd with our tax rates that you fear so much and losing big compared to by any quality of life metric - we pay half of your cost in health care. And were pretty expensive compared to other European countries.
so just go to bed with your me-me-me outllok on society.
You still pay double for your healthcare. So be daft if you wish to.
And show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?
Fucking debate from within reality if you gonna debate. But obviously you are unable to.
"B-b-but MRI if I pay for it. B-b-but WW2. B-b-but magic eagles soaring over our land. F-f-fuck everyone else"
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"Swedes, like other Nordic Europeans, have an independent streak. They leave their parental homes earlier than almost all their southern neighbors.One study found that just 2% of Swedish men lived with their parents after the age of 30. In Spain, a quarter of 30-year-old men still are shacking up with mom and dad; in Italy it was around 32%."
"For example, whereas in the US parents are expected to help pay for the their children’s college education, in Sweden parental income levels are just not part of the equation."
Again:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?
You seem to be unable to? So how about drop that flag wrapped around you and look at the world through the prism of reality instead of the prism of "every part of the system I belong to told me I was special"
I like to be rewarded for teh work I do, not be punished for it. Progressive tax system is great, but that's not what Sweden has. Add in all teh VAT bullshit and voila.. yeah I get free shit at only 55% income tax. How awesome. Christ.. no thanks. Keep that bullshit in Sweden.
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Can you though?mrussel1 said:
Excellent point, I stand corrected. Perhaps I can conjure up a kick-ass meme about it and get invited to the WH.Halifax2TheMax said:
Shit hole? I don’t believe I heard Team Trump Treason mention it in his list. Fake news.mrussel1 said:
Sweden's a shit hole compared to the US. The flat tax income system pushes people swiftly into the top marginal tax bracket, at what? 1.5% of the average maybe..less? Hey thanks for being a great producer, your reward is doubled up tax rate to pay for the deadbeats that can't get a decent job. No thanks. Oh yeah, but make sure you thank them for paying for your college.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You are so fucking lost. Just throwing out things you've picked up from wherever. Without knowing shit.mrussel1 said:
In the US it's customary to grow up, move out and make you're own way. Relying in your mom or the welfare state to keep you afloat is necessary for some I'm sure, but I think in our culture, it's not something to be proud of or want to be that way in perpetuity. That just seems so foreign.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:
Sorry I didn't know that you were low income. My bad. I guess that's why you don't mind other people paying for your standard of living. I was raised differently. It's probably just a cultural thing.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I pay 25%. If you are speaking percentage of pay.mrussel1 said:
Yep I'll do that gladly with my 24% effective rate. Thanks. And you can sleep well in your second rate country as well. I aim high, you aim... let's call it mediocre at best.Spiritual_Chaos said:
No. Its pretty obvious.mrussel1 said:Bernie forgot to mention tax rates in his tweet. That's seems like an unusual oversight on his part.
Abd with our tax rates that you fear so much and losing big compared to by any quality of life metric - we pay half of your cost in health care. And were pretty expensive compared to other European countries.
so just go to bed with your me-me-me outllok on society.
You still pay double for your healthcare. So be daft if you wish to.
And show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?
Fucking debate from within reality if you gonna debate. But obviously you are unable to.
"B-b-but MRI if I pay for it. B-b-but WW2. B-b-but magic eagles soaring over our land. F-f-fuck everyone else"
The Nickelback of arguments.
"Swedes, like other Nordic Europeans, have an independent streak. They leave their parental homes earlier than almost all their southern neighbors.One study found that just 2% of Swedish men lived with their parents after the age of 30. In Spain, a quarter of 30-year-old men still are shacking up with mom and dad; in Italy it was around 32%."
"For example, whereas in the US parents are expected to help pay for the their children’s college education, in Sweden parental income levels are just not part of the equation."
Again:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?
You seem to be unable to? So how about drop that flag wrapped around you and look at the world through the prism of reality instead of the prism of "every part of the system I belong to told me I was special"
I like to be rewarded for teh work I do, not be punished for it. Progressive tax system is great, but that's not what Sweden has. Add in all teh VAT bullshit and voila.. yeah I get free shit at only 55% income tax. How awesome. Christ.. no thanks. Keep that bullshit in Sweden.
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“If Bernie gets the nomination?” Tame the hard on fella. Ain’t happening.mrussel1 said:
The attack ads practically write themselves. It's jut not in our culture to be reliant on the government for everything. I'm a big supporter of ensuring everyone has health care. I also support FMLA. But he's way out there. It won't happen in Bernie's lifetime, that's for sure.mcgruff10 said:
Hell no! And that is why Bernie will lose if he gets the nomination, who the heck wants to pay these insane rates? Yeah no thanks, I'm not that far to the left.mrussel1 said:
Ha! Around here we call those liquor-cycles... because you can still drive one after you get a DUI. And you're right. Can you imagine paying 34k in taxes on an income of 60k? And that's before you pay VAT or anything else. No thanks.mcgruff10 said:yeah f that:"Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat. In other words, they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent.
Sweden and Norway have similarly flat income tax systems. Sweden’s top marginal tax rate of 56.9 percent applies to all income over 1.5 times the average income in Sweden. Norway’s top marginal tax rate of 39 percent applies to all income over 1.6 times the average Norwegian income.
Compare this to The United States. The top marginal tax rate of 46.8 percent (state average and federal combined rates) kicks in at 8.5 times the average U.S. income (around $400,000). Comparatively, few taxpayers in the United States face the top marginal rate."
Spiritual do you make minimum wage? Is that why this isn't a big deal to you?
My wife and I, two teachers, would be taxed at 56.9% if we were like Sweden! No way could we afford our house, cars, kids, vacation, etc. Shit I'd be drinking bud light and driving by kid to day care on the back of my scooter. lol
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I guarantee we have better Mexican food...I’m not sure I want to live somewhere without a great Tex-Mex Restaurant in the vicinity.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:Oh and thread integrity, stop talking about Sweden and stay on topic already. JHC.
Keep your 2nd rate “Swedish Cuisines” and high ass tax rate.
I’ll take my fajitas and ability to actually afford to go somewhere on my vacation days that I never really need all of every year!
And yes, politicians suck (thread integrity)Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
The blues, jazz and rock and roll........PJPOWER said:
I guarantee we have better Mexican food...I’m not sure I want to live somewhere without a great Tex-Mex Restaurant in the vicinity.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:Oh and thread integrity, stop talking about Sweden and stay on topic already. JHC.
Keep your 2nd rate “Swedish Cuisines” and high ass tax rate.
I’ll take my fajitas and ability to actually afford to go somewhere on my vacation days that I never really need all of every year!
And yes, politicians suck (thread integrity)
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Has anyone answered his question? Yet? Taxes, vacation spots, pizza, Saab’s. Not one of which answered the question. Guess it’s still too big, too diverse? Fucking pathetic. Would love to see any of the criticizers debate swedish politics, tax policy or standard of living in a language other than their own but again, it’d take interest and be a challenge. Rah rah rah USA USA USA.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:
Pardon?Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:
The attack ads practically write themselves. It's jut not in our culture to be reliant on the government for everything. I'm a big supporter of ensuring everyone has health care. I also support FMLA. But he's way out there. It won't happen in Bernie's lifetime, that's for sure.mcgruff10 said:
Hell no! And that is why Bernie will lose if he gets the nomination, who the heck wants to pay these insane rates? Yeah no thanks, I'm not that far to the left.mrussel1 said:
Ha! Around here we call those liquor-cycles... because you can still drive one after you get a DUI. And you're right. Can you imagine paying 34k in taxes on an income of 60k? And that's before you pay VAT or anything else. No thanks.mcgruff10 said:yeah f that:"Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat. In other words, they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent.
Sweden and Norway have similarly flat income tax systems. Sweden’s top marginal tax rate of 56.9 percent applies to all income over 1.5 times the average income in Sweden. Norway’s top marginal tax rate of 39 percent applies to all income over 1.6 times the average Norwegian income.
Compare this to The United States. The top marginal tax rate of 46.8 percent (state average and federal combined rates) kicks in at 8.5 times the average U.S. income (around $400,000). Comparatively, few taxpayers in the United States face the top marginal rate."
Spiritual do you make minimum wage? Is that why this isn't a big deal to you?
My wife and I, two teachers, would be taxed at 56.9% if we were like Sweden! No way could we afford our house, cars, kids, vacation, etc. Shit I'd be drinking bud light and driving by kid to day care on the back of my scooter. lol
Still waiting for the White House invite meme, by the way.
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¿Eh, señor, tienes una cervesa, por favor?PJPOWER said:
I guarantee we have better Mexican food...I’m not sure I want to live somewhere without a great Tex-Mex Restaurant in the vicinity.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:Oh and thread integrity, stop talking about Sweden and stay on topic already. JHC.
Keep your 2nd rate “Swedish Cuisines” and high ass tax rate.
I’ll take my fajitas and ability to actually afford to go somewhere on my vacation days that I never really need all of every year!
And yes, politicians suck (thread integrity)
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Nyet!brianlux said:
¿Eh, señor, tienes una cervesa, por favor?PJPOWER said:
I guarantee we have better Mexican food...I’m not sure I want to live somewhere without a great Tex-Mex Restaurant in the vicinity.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:Oh and thread integrity, stop talking about Sweden and stay on topic already. JHC.
Keep your 2nd rate “Swedish Cuisines” and high ass tax rate.
I’ll take my fajitas and ability to actually afford to go somewhere on my vacation days that I never really need all of every year!
And yes, politicians suck (thread integrity)0 -
Don’t read it. Or If you are intersted in the answer, ask mrussel to finally answer.cincybearcat said:
Ok enough with this parrot shit. Take it to pm. Keeping posting the same shit over and over is fucking annoying.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:
Pardon?Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:
The attack ads practically write themselves. It's jut not in our culture to be reliant on the government for everything. I'm a big supporter of ensuring everyone has health care. I also support FMLA. But he's way out there. It won't happen in Bernie's lifetime, that's for sure.mcgruff10 said:
Hell no! And that is why Bernie will lose if he gets the nomination, who the heck wants to pay these insane rates? Yeah no thanks, I'm not that far to the left.mrussel1 said:
Ha! Around here we call those liquor-cycles... because you can still drive one after you get a DUI. And you're right. Can you imagine paying 34k in taxes on an income of 60k? And that's before you pay VAT or anything else. No thanks.mcgruff10 said:yeah f that:"Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat. In other words, they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent.
Sweden and Norway have similarly flat income tax systems. Sweden’s top marginal tax rate of 56.9 percent applies to all income over 1.5 times the average income in Sweden. Norway’s top marginal tax rate of 39 percent applies to all income over 1.6 times the average Norwegian income.
Compare this to The United States. The top marginal tax rate of 46.8 percent (state average and federal combined rates) kicks in at 8.5 times the average U.S. income (around $400,000). Comparatively, few taxpayers in the United States face the top marginal rate."
Spiritual do you make minimum wage? Is that why this isn't a big deal to you?
My wife and I, two teachers, would be taxed at 56.9% if we were like Sweden! No way could we afford our house, cars, kids, vacation, etc. Shit I'd be drinking bud light and driving by kid to day care on the back of my scooter. lol
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You know SAAB is a great car. So your post might come off as a little cute. But not much more than that.cincybearcat said:
I thought you said they had a car? 1 SAAB? Now that’s embarrassingSpiritual_Chaos said:
My brother who is a teacher, and his gf is a nurse, can afford house, car (SAAB), kids, vacation etc.mcgruff10 said:yeah f that:"Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat. In other words, they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent.
Sweden and Norway have similarly flat income tax systems. Sweden’s top marginal tax rate of 56.9 percent applies to all income over 1.5 times the average income in Sweden. Norway’s top marginal tax rate of 39 percent applies to all income over 1.6 times the average Norwegian income.
Compare this to The United States. The top marginal tax rate of 46.8 percent (state average and federal combined rates) kicks in at 8.5 times the average U.S. income (around $400,000). Comparatively, few taxpayers in the United States face the top marginal rate."
Spiritual do you make minimum wage? Is that why this isn't a big deal to you?
My wife and I, two teachers, would be taxed at 56.9% if we were like Sweden! No way could we afford our house, cars, kids, vacation, etc. Shit I'd be drinking bud light and driving by kid to day care on the back of my scooter. lol
Get out of your hole, spit out the koolaid and start thinking a tad. I know you need mrussels respect. But come on now."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Thank you for helping proving my point and strip mrussels bullshit post off the nothing that it is.mickeyrat said:
The blues, jazz and rock and roll........PJPOWER said:
I guarantee we have better Mexican food...I’m not sure I want to live somewhere without a great Tex-Mex Restaurant in the vicinity.Spiritual_Chaos said:
show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mrussel1 said:Oh and thread integrity, stop talking about Sweden and stay on topic already. JHC.
Keep your 2nd rate “Swedish Cuisines” and high ass tax rate.
I’ll take my fajitas and ability to actually afford to go somewhere on my vacation days that I never really need all of every year!
And yes, politicians suck (thread integrity)
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oh no. mrussel is spot on.
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So then, show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?mickeyrat said:oh no. mrussel is spot on."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
no.
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Exactly.mickeyrat said:no."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
This is why Bernie has no chance. Everyone agrees teachers are underpaid but 60k starting point is ridiculous.mrussel1 said:
Agreed. I think they should be paid more, generally, but we should also expect more. I would like that our best and brightest want to teach. I'm not sure that's the case today (McGruff aside, of course). Teachers in VA make in the 70's. That's not terrible. If the federal min wage was 60, the net effect of that will be that the good teachers' salaries are compressed to support the new and poor teachers. It's pure economics, something that escapes Bernie and many socialist.brianlux said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
Starting at 60 k? I don't think that will happen. I agree that teachers are underpaid but I also have a problem with a few other factors. To start with, parents expecting teachers to do the parenting. And parents who don't participate in kids education.The other thing may or may not be a problem any more but when I was in teaching, I had issues with the quality of work from many of my fellow teachers. I taught a 5/6 combo for a few years, subbed grades 4 through 12 for 4 years and worked with a community college course for a couple years. There were great teachers, of course, but there we also people in the job who had no business doing it. SOme really, really poor excuses for teachers. I often thought they needed weeding out.So if we are to raise teacher salaries, great! But at the same time, we need to cut out the slackers and dead wood and make teaching a respectable profession staffed with professional people.
My wife's a teacher. Started at around 45k. Got her masters and continued to accrue more and more credits. 10+ years later she's making over 80k.www.myspace.com0 -
Didn't SAAB go out of business like 10 years ago?Spiritual_Chaos said:
You know SAAB is a great car. So your post might come off as a little cute. But not much more than that.cincybearcat said:
I thought you said they had a car? 1 SAAB? Now that’s embarrassingSpiritual_Chaos said:
My brother who is a teacher, and his gf is a nurse, can afford house, car (SAAB), kids, vacation etc.mcgruff10 said:yeah f that:"Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat. In other words, they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent.
Sweden and Norway have similarly flat income tax systems. Sweden’s top marginal tax rate of 56.9 percent applies to all income over 1.5 times the average income in Sweden. Norway’s top marginal tax rate of 39 percent applies to all income over 1.6 times the average Norwegian income.
Compare this to The United States. The top marginal tax rate of 46.8 percent (state average and federal combined rates) kicks in at 8.5 times the average U.S. income (around $400,000). Comparatively, few taxpayers in the United States face the top marginal rate."
Spiritual do you make minimum wage? Is that why this isn't a big deal to you?
My wife and I, two teachers, would be taxed at 56.9% if we were like Sweden! No way could we afford our house, cars, kids, vacation, etc. Shit I'd be drinking bud light and driving by kid to day care on the back of my scooter. lol
Get out of your hole, spit out the koolaid and start thinking a tad. I know you need mrussels respect. But come on now.www.myspace.com0 -
Because of General Motors. Turning everything into Flint, Michigan is their business model.The Juggler said:
Didn't SAAB go out of business like 10 years ago?Spiritual_Chaos said:
You know SAAB is a great car. So your post might come off as a little cute. But not much more than that.cincybearcat said:
I thought you said they had a car? 1 SAAB? Now that’s embarrassingSpiritual_Chaos said:
My brother who is a teacher, and his gf is a nurse, can afford house, car (SAAB), kids, vacation etc.mcgruff10 said:yeah f that:"Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat. In other words, they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent.
Sweden and Norway have similarly flat income tax systems. Sweden’s top marginal tax rate of 56.9 percent applies to all income over 1.5 times the average income in Sweden. Norway’s top marginal tax rate of 39 percent applies to all income over 1.6 times the average Norwegian income.
Compare this to The United States. The top marginal tax rate of 46.8 percent (state average and federal combined rates) kicks in at 8.5 times the average U.S. income (around $400,000). Comparatively, few taxpayers in the United States face the top marginal rate."
Spiritual do you make minimum wage? Is that why this isn't a big deal to you?
My wife and I, two teachers, would be taxed at 56.9% if we were like Sweden! No way could we afford our house, cars, kids, vacation, etc. Shit I'd be drinking bud light and driving by kid to day care on the back of my scooter. lol
Get out of your hole, spit out the koolaid and start thinking a tad. I know you need mrussels respect. But come on now.
And by the way, Pink Floyd also went out of business. Still great.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Oh that sucks. So your country does not produce any automobiles any more?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Because of General Motors. Turning everything into Flint, Michigan is their business model.The Juggler said:
Didn't SAAB go out of business like 10 years ago?Spiritual_Chaos said:
You know SAAB is a great car. So your post might come off as a little cute. But not much more than that.cincybearcat said:
I thought you said they had a car? 1 SAAB? Now that’s embarrassingSpiritual_Chaos said:
My brother who is a teacher, and his gf is a nurse, can afford house, car (SAAB), kids, vacation etc.mcgruff10 said:yeah f that:"Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat. In other words, they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. The top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent.
Sweden and Norway have similarly flat income tax systems. Sweden’s top marginal tax rate of 56.9 percent applies to all income over 1.5 times the average income in Sweden. Norway’s top marginal tax rate of 39 percent applies to all income over 1.6 times the average Norwegian income.
Compare this to The United States. The top marginal tax rate of 46.8 percent (state average and federal combined rates) kicks in at 8.5 times the average U.S. income (around $400,000). Comparatively, few taxpayers in the United States face the top marginal rate."
Spiritual do you make minimum wage? Is that why this isn't a big deal to you?
My wife and I, two teachers, would be taxed at 56.9% if we were like Sweden! No way could we afford our house, cars, kids, vacation, etc. Shit I'd be drinking bud light and driving by kid to day care on the back of my scooter. lol
Get out of your hole, spit out the koolaid and start thinking a tad. I know you need mrussels respect. But come on now.
And by the way, Pink Floyd also went out of business. Still great.www.myspace.com0 -
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