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hedonist said:Thanks, Dad. I believe Mom has already laid out the guidelines
Ohhhhh no, Hedo, I'm just one of the kids. Maybe a little old, but just one o' the kids.
But seriously, folks, I'm definitely not playing mod, or saying anything we don't already know, just hoping this place doesn't fall to ruin. That means I have to be cool too, we all need to be cool."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
we can be done. but its the wrong question, though. the real quedtion is , WILL we be done....?answer is a resounding no to that one._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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With you, what I presume, referring to me.mcgruff10 said:The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.
If I may, I will bring up a Case study of -- the "US Soccer team" thread.
Where a current tidbit relating to US Soccer was posted:
Prompting these kind of responses from you :
While I asked you to re-read the initial comment, pointing out I even bolded the first sentence for you to easier understand this seemed to fall completely on deaf ears with you just carrying on.
Which begs the question - are you really the one to rule on what is "insulting and personal" in posts? When you have problems with misreading posts - even refusing to re-read them for clarification when asked to?
Now, over to:Meltdown99 said:and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
Let us return to the same Case study. This was your contribution to it:
I would ask the question then - what is your big contribution in this post? You, from the look of it seems to not even have read the initial post (or if like Mcgruff - refused to re-read it after misreading), instead having your first instinct be to jump on a bandwagon (which certain members seem to do like clockwork). Let me point out -- this coming after several posts and pages prompting to reread the initial post - which you, if you did even read it had the option to do. Instead you choose to post the above.
Also, regarding this:Meltdown99 said:
I agree.mcgruff10 said:
The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.PJ_Soul said:
I don't agree that this is just one person's fault at all. The reactions are what the problem is, not initial comments. Some people here refuse to just let someone say what he wants without flipping out and getting mad and super insulting and personal, and then a ridiculous back and forth argument ensues. Sonyeaj, I think the ignore feature would be helpful for all sides (it is always the usual suspects).Meltdown99 said:We do not need an ignore button...however it is useful. If you have a forum that allows political discussion people will disagree. My favourite forum I visit (not this one), allows 0 political threads or political talk.
and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
People who goat people into bans...wtf is up with that. People need to learn to just walk away from some discussions (me included).
Is it not you veering into being "insulting and personal" with, and I quote, "seems more like a Swedish chap who has an inferiority complex" which - to further emphasize: doesn't seem to much of a contribution?
A third members first response was to call me a "dumbfuck" - following that person ALSO having not read, or misread the post and jumping on said bandwagon -- also refusing to take a step back and re-read the post to understand when being prompted to.
Should be noted members (referencing here again said "bandwagon") chose to defend the use of "dumbfuck"/mocked the user objecting to being called a "dumbfuck" - even when it was apparent that insult came as a reaction from unwarranted ignorance. One of them being - ta-da - @Meltdown99 -- which makes your comments in here, more so absurd.
Thank you for reading the telling Case study of "The US Soccer" thread. Maybe things would go smoother if people chill with preconceived notions seemingly even clouding their reading ability and rushing to bandwagoning.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
This thread will be closed soon... it was a useful thread.mickeyrat said:we can be done. but its the wrong question, though. the real quedtion is , WILL we be done....?answer is a resounding no to that one.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Yeah I thought it was good. Have a great weekend everyone. When will pj play live again?!Meltdown99 said:
This thread will be closed soon... it was a useful thread.mickeyrat said:we can be done. but its the wrong question, though. the real quedtion is , WILL we be done....?answer is a resounding no to that one.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
That’s the million-dollar question. Will PJ play again live? Hopefully soon with new materialmcgruff10 said:
Yeah I thought it was good. Have a great weekend everyone. When will pj play live again?!Meltdown99 said:
This thread will be closed soon... it was a useful thread.mickeyrat said:we can be done. but its the wrong question, though. the real quedtion is , WILL we be done....?answer is a resounding no to that one.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
I don’t care when they are history to me ! Recantours is where it’s at JWhite is god ...mcgruff10 said:
Yeah I thought it was good. Have a great weekend everyone. When will pj play live again?!Meltdown99 said:
This thread will be closed soon... it was a useful thread.mickeyrat said:we can be done. but its the wrong question, though. the real quedtion is , WILL we be done....?answer is a resounding no to that one.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Neil Young is the evergreen "where it's at".josevolution said:
I don’t care when they are history to me ! Recantours is where it’s at JWhite is god ...mcgruff10 said:
Yeah I thought it was good. Have a great weekend everyone. When will pj play live again?!Meltdown99 said:
This thread will be closed soon... it was a useful thread.mickeyrat said:we can be done. but its the wrong question, though. the real quedtion is , WILL we be done....?answer is a resounding no to that one.
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Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
not for nothing, still havent been shown a link to where that was said. seemed reasonable to ask for it.cant seem to find when or where it was said myself, soo......._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Its not easy being a conservative here. I totally get it that most pj fans, the band itself, and staff are liberal minded and I'm in the minority here.
I'm not looking to win arguments, I'm giving you my perspective, and looking for clarity, where we differ and agree. But I get blasted personally almost every time unless it's in the lounge car.
Like it or lump it the posts about Sarah Sanders was way over the top, Christian mockery and all. Just say you don't like her and that's good enough.
The Right & Left is sooo fundimentally different, its almost impossible to "coexist"
The very premis on what people here "think I am" based on how I vote (Conservative/ Republican/Trump) (racist/sexist/phobias/Etc.) for example, I don't know how to put into words how wrong that is of me and most Trump/conservative voters. I'm not the least bit racist,( most Republican voters are not sexist and racist Etc) or any of the phobias.
No person, politician or Institution is perfect.
Conservatives vote for the person who we think will run the country closest to our ideals. Sometimes the choice we have at the end of the primaries isn't our first choice but it's that or the other side so we choose that.
You can have a terrible person run a country or business really well and thrive.
You can have a really good person who runs a country or business into the ground.
We vote for the person who we think will get the job done closest to our ideals.
We have no control over that person's personal life and past. We deal with our choice which is whoever makes it hrough the primaries. It doesn't matter who we vote for they are going to have flaws we just pick the lesser of the two evils. The right and left are going to differ on that forever.
But on this message board, I tried to be polite, (I'm not perfect either) but when I get insulted or blasted I fight back a little and then I cringe to look at the next post responding to my last post. It's a good thing you guys can't jump out of the phone and strangle me cuz some of you probably would.
Benjs suggested to me maybe I should hang around people more in line with my thinking because people here hate racist and sexist. The person assumes that I am racist and sexist which is totally totally false assumption.
Talking with my friends about this is like preaching to the choir, talking with you people here takes a little bit of effort, I don't mind the differences I hate the labels put on when you don't actually know where I'm coming from. Based on where you are located your views can be different, somebody who lives in a city on the coast has different priorities than someone who lives in the Upper Midwest. And vice versa someone who lives in New York has different issues than somebody living in Montana or Alaska.
Try to stick to the topics and avoid smears maybe this will go better.
We have a common appreciation in music and Pearl Jam this is ivery nteresting to say the least. The assumption that a person is racist and sexist based on their vote is asinine. We are concerned with the direction of the country more than anything else.
Although I different with many of you on many many issues I am not your enemy.
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Solid post ryme.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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If you choose to actively vote, with these ideals you find to be a-ok, for someone saying climate change doesn't exist and who will lead the most powerful country in the world with the intelligence of a rock - while the world is burning up, 10.000 animal species dies every year because of humans and the clock is ticking down faster and faster.RYME said:Its not easy being a conservative here. I totally get it that most pj fans, the band itself, and staff are liberal minded and I'm in the minority here.
I'm not looking to win arguments, I'm giving you my perspective, and looking for clarity, where we differ and agree. But I get blasted personally almost every time unless it's in the lounge car.
Like it or lump it the posts about Sarah Sanders was way over the top, Christian mockery and all. Just say you don't like her and that's good enough.
The Right & Left is sooo fundimentally different, its almost impossible to "coexist"
The very premis on what people here "think I am" based on how I vote (Conservative/ Republican/Trump) (racist/sexist/phobias/Etc.) for example, I don't know how to put into words how wrong that is of me and most Trump/conservative voters. I'm not the least bit racist,( most Republican voters are not sexist and racist Etc) or any of the phobias.
No person, politician or Institution is perfect.
Conservatives vote for the person who we think will run the country closest to our ideals. Sometimes the choice we have at the end of the primaries isn't our first choice but it's that or the other side so we choose that.
You can have a terrible person run a country or business really well and thrive.
You can have a really good person who runs a country or business into the ground.
We vote for the person who we think will get the job done closest to our ideals.
We have no control over that person's personal life and past. We deal with our choice which is whoever makes it hrough the primaries. It doesn't matter who we vote for they are going to have flaws we just pick the lesser of the two evils. The right and left are going to differ on that forever.
But on this message board, I tried to be polite, (I'm not perfect either) but when I get insulted or blasted I fight back a little and then I cringe to look at the next post responding to my last post. It's a good thing you guys can't jump out of the phone and strangle me cuz some of you probably would.
Benjs suggested to me maybe I should hang around people more in line with my thinking because people here hate racist and sexist. The person assumes that I am racist and sexist which is totally totally false assumption.
Talking with my friends about this is like preaching to the choir, talking with you people here takes a little bit of effort, I don't mind the differences I hate the labels put on when you don't actually know where I'm coming from. Based on where you are located your views can be different, somebody who lives in a city on the coast has different priorities than someone who lives in the Upper Midwest. And vice versa someone who lives in New York has different issues than somebody living in Montana or Alaska.
Try to stick to the topics and avoid smears maybe this will go better.
We have a common appreciation in music and Pearl Jam this is ivery nteresting to say the least. Although I different with many of you on many many issues I am not your enemy.
Then ofc you are "an enemy".
It's not a "team right" or "team left" issue.
It's an issue of humanity. And the survival of this planet.
Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Old stuff, dude. Mickeyrat spent time in lock up for throwing sand in the sandbox. Could you let that go? Believe it or not, I have read far worse things from far more people around here who kept going and going. Mickeyrat is good people. Made a bad decision. Paid the price for it. Let it go. Forgiveness is a great thing.Spiritual_Chaos said:
With you, what I presume, referring to me.mcgruff10 said:The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.
If I may, I will bring up a Case study of -- the "US Soccer team" thread.
Where a current tidbit relating to US Soccer was posted:
Prompting these kind of responses from you :
While I asked you to re-read the initial comment, pointing out I even bolded the first sentence for you to easier understand this seemed to fall completely on deaf ears with you just carrying on.
Which begs the question - are you really the one to rule on what is "insulting and personal" in posts? When you have problems with misreading posts - even refusing to re-read them for clarification when asked to?
Now, over to:Meltdown99 said:and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
Let us return to the same Case study. This was your contribution to it:
I would ask the question then - what is your big contribution in this post? You, from the look of it seems to not even have read the initial post (or if like Mcgruff - refused to re-read it after misreading), instead having your first instinct be to jump on a bandwagon (which certain members seem to do like clockwork). Let me point out -- this coming after several posts and pages prompting to reread the initial post - which you, if you did even read it had the option to do. Instead you choose to post the above.
Also, regarding this:Meltdown99 said:
I agree.mcgruff10 said:
The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.PJ_Soul said:
I don't agree that this is just one person's fault at all. The reactions are what the problem is, not initial comments. Some people here refuse to just let someone say what he wants without flipping out and getting mad and super insulting and personal, and then a ridiculous back and forth argument ensues. Sonyeaj, I think the ignore feature would be helpful for all sides (it is always the usual suspects).Meltdown99 said:We do not need an ignore button...however it is useful. If you have a forum that allows political discussion people will disagree. My favourite forum I visit (not this one), allows 0 political threads or political talk.
and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
People who goat people into bans...wtf is up with that. People need to learn to just walk away from some discussions (me included).
Is it not you veering into being "insulting and personal" with, and I quote, "seems more like a Swedish chap who has an inferiority complex" which - to further emphasize: doesn't seem to much of a contribution?
A third member @mickeyrat first response was to call me a "dumbfuck" - following that person ALSO having not read, or misread the post and jumping on said bandwagon -- also refusing to take a step back and re-read the post to understand when being prompted to.
Should be noted members (referencing here again said "bandwagon") chose to defend the use of "dumbfuck"/mocked the user objecting to being called a "dumbfuck" - even when it was apparent that insult came as a reaction from unwarranted ignorance. One of them being - ta-da - @Meltdown99 -- which makes your comments in here, more so absurd.
Thank you for reading the telling Case study of "The US Soccer" thread. Maybe things would go smoother if people chill with preconceived notions seemingly even clouding their reading ability and rushing to bandwagoning.
Around here, you need to use that fancy ignore button. (Oh, I have and it is delightful.) In the event that the mods get involved because someone is saying that someone called them a bad word, that is sad. I believe that we are adults.
I do not believe that this thread was started out to call people out and to set them in front of a firing squad for posting offenses. That's kind of what PMs are for. Feel free to hash that out amongst yourself to keep the free speech and posting privileges going, yes? Peace, y'all.
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Chaos couldn't have articulated my point any better if he tried.
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I did not know that. But its not about not letting go.deadendp said:
Old stuff, dude. Mickeyrat spent time in lock up for throwing sand in the sandbox. Could you let that go? Believe it or not, I have read far worse things from far more people around here who kept going and going. Mickeyrat is good people. Made a bad decision. Paid the price for it. Let it go. Forgiveness is a great thing.Spiritual_Chaos said:
With you, what I presume, referring to me.mcgruff10 said:The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.
If I may, I will bring up a Case study of -- the "US Soccer team" thread.
Where a current tidbit relating to US Soccer was posted:
Prompting these kind of responses from you :
While I asked you to re-read the initial comment, pointing out I even bolded the first sentence for you to easier understand this seemed to fall completely on deaf ears with you just carrying on.
Which begs the question - are you really the one to rule on what is "insulting and personal" in posts? When you have problems with misreading posts - even refusing to re-read them for clarification when asked to?
Now, over to:Meltdown99 said:and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
Let us return to the same Case study. This was your contribution to it:
I would ask the question then - what is your big contribution in this post? You, from the look of it seems to not even have read the initial post (or if like Mcgruff - refused to re-read it after misreading), instead having your first instinct be to jump on a bandwagon (which certain members seem to do like clockwork). Let me point out -- this coming after several posts and pages prompting to reread the initial post - which you, if you did even read it had the option to do. Instead you choose to post the above.
Also, regarding this:Meltdown99 said:
I agree.mcgruff10 said:
The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.PJ_Soul said:
I don't agree that this is just one person's fault at all. The reactions are what the problem is, not initial comments. Some people here refuse to just let someone say what he wants without flipping out and getting mad and super insulting and personal, and then a ridiculous back and forth argument ensues. Sonyeaj, I think the ignore feature would be helpful for all sides (it is always the usual suspects).Meltdown99 said:We do not need an ignore button...however it is useful. If you have a forum that allows political discussion people will disagree. My favourite forum I visit (not this one), allows 0 political threads or political talk.
and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
People who goat people into bans...wtf is up with that. People need to learn to just walk away from some discussions (me included).
Is it not you veering into being "insulting and personal" with, and I quote, "seems more like a Swedish chap who has an inferiority complex" which - to further emphasize: doesn't seem to much of a contribution?
A third member @mickeyrat first response was to call me a "dumbfuck" - following that person ALSO having not read, or misread the post and jumping on said bandwagon -- also refusing to take a step back and re-read the post to understand when being prompted to.
Should be noted members (referencing here again said "bandwagon") chose to defend the use of "dumbfuck"/mocked the user objecting to being called a "dumbfuck" - even when it was apparent that insult came as a reaction from unwarranted ignorance. One of them being - ta-da - @Meltdown99 -- which makes your comments in here, more so absurd.
Thank you for reading the telling Case study of "The US Soccer" thread. Maybe things would go smoother if people chill with preconceived notions seemingly even clouding their reading ability and rushing to bandwagoning.
Around here, you need to use that fancy ignore button. (Oh, I have and it is delightful.) In the event that the mods get involved because someone is saying that someone called them a bad word, that is sad. I believe that we are adults.
I do not believe that this thread was started out to call people out and to set them in front of a firing squad for posting offenses. That's kind of what PMs are for. Feel free to hash that out amongst yourself to keep the free speech and posting privileges going, yes? Peace, y'all.
the post was to show an example, in response to peoples comments in here, on how people not even taking the time to actually read a post before going on an offense and lining up for the bandwagon. That was the point meant to be illustrared.
Regarding the ignore button. I think its a bad Feature, on any message board.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Gotcha. Examples. I understand that. That one has had time served. Just kind of hoped that particular example could fade away.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I did not know that. But its not about not letting go.deadendp said:
Old stuff, dude. Mickeyrat spent time in lock up for throwing sand in the sandbox. Could you let that go? Believe it or not, I have read far worse things from far more people around here who kept going and going. Mickeyrat is good people. Made a bad decision. Paid the price for it. Let it go. Forgiveness is a great thing.Spiritual_Chaos said:
With you, what I presume, referring to me.mcgruff10 said:The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.
If I may, I will bring up a Case study of -- the "US Soccer team" thread.
Where a current tidbit relating to US Soccer was posted:
Prompting these kind of responses from you :
While I asked you to re-read the initial comment, pointing out I even bolded the first sentence for you to easier understand this seemed to fall completely on deaf ears with you just carrying on.
Which begs the question - are you really the one to rule on what is "insulting and personal" in posts? When you have problems with misreading posts - even refusing to re-read them for clarification when asked to?
Now, over to:Meltdown99 said:and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
Let us return to the same Case study. This was your contribution to it:
I would ask the question then - what is your big contribution in this post? You, from the look of it seems to not even have read the initial post (or if like Mcgruff - refused to re-read it after misreading), instead having your first instinct be to jump on a bandwagon (which certain members seem to do like clockwork). Let me point out -- this coming after several posts and pages prompting to reread the initial post - which you, if you did even read it had the option to do. Instead you choose to post the above.
Also, regarding this:Meltdown99 said:
I agree.mcgruff10 said:
The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.PJ_Soul said:
I don't agree that this is just one person's fault at all. The reactions are what the problem is, not initial comments. Some people here refuse to just let someone say what he wants without flipping out and getting mad and super insulting and personal, and then a ridiculous back and forth argument ensues. Sonyeaj, I think the ignore feature would be helpful for all sides (it is always the usual suspects).Meltdown99 said:We do not need an ignore button...however it is useful. If you have a forum that allows political discussion people will disagree. My favourite forum I visit (not this one), allows 0 political threads or political talk.
and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
People who goat people into bans...wtf is up with that. People need to learn to just walk away from some discussions (me included).
Is it not you veering into being "insulting and personal" with, and I quote, "seems more like a Swedish chap who has an inferiority complex" which - to further emphasize: doesn't seem to much of a contribution?
A third member @mickeyrat first response was to call me a "dumbfuck" - following that person ALSO having not read, or misread the post and jumping on said bandwagon -- also refusing to take a step back and re-read the post to understand when being prompted to.
Should be noted members (referencing here again said "bandwagon") chose to defend the use of "dumbfuck"/mocked the user objecting to being called a "dumbfuck" - even when it was apparent that insult came as a reaction from unwarranted ignorance. One of them being - ta-da - @Meltdown99 -- which makes your comments in here, more so absurd.
Thank you for reading the telling Case study of "The US Soccer" thread. Maybe things would go smoother if people chill with preconceived notions seemingly even clouding their reading ability and rushing to bandwagoning.
Around here, you need to use that fancy ignore button. (Oh, I have and it is delightful.) In the event that the mods get involved because someone is saying that someone called them a bad word, that is sad. I believe that we are adults.
I do not believe that this thread was started out to call people out and to set them in front of a firing squad for posting offenses. That's kind of what PMs are for. Feel free to hash that out amongst yourself to keep the free speech and posting privileges going, yes? Peace, y'all.
the post was to show an example, in response to peoples comments in here, on how people not even taking the time to actually read a post before going on an offense and lining up for the bandwagon. That was the point meant to be illustrared.
Regarding the ignore button. I think its a shitty Feature, on any message board.
I understand the issues with the ignore button, but if you (generalized you, not you personally) know that someone could potentially irritate you to an unreasonable point, I guess you (generalized you) need to know your limitations. There are just a few here who present that way to me, irritate me to no end and make some travels around here unpleasant. It's a personal thing and I understand not one that works for everyone.2014: Cincinnati
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Thanks I don't expect you like Sarah.njnancy said:
No one is an enemy, we are all equal and I personally will try to understand positions such as yours better in the future instead of stereotyping.RYME said:Chaos couldn't have articulated my point any better if he tried.
I can't say I can say nice things about Sarah though
The caricature of her kneeling by a cross is what threw me for a loop.
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Yes. And people use it so it has a function and is appreciated.deadendp said:
Gotcha. Examples. I understand that. That one has had time served. Just kind of hoped that particular example could fade away.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I did not know that. But its not about not letting go.deadendp said:
Old stuff, dude. Mickeyrat spent time in lock up for throwing sand in the sandbox. Could you let that go? Believe it or not, I have read far worse things from far more people around here who kept going and going. Mickeyrat is good people. Made a bad decision. Paid the price for it. Let it go. Forgiveness is a great thing.Spiritual_Chaos said:
With you, what I presume, referring to me.mcgruff10 said:The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.
If I may, I will bring up a Case study of -- the "US Soccer team" thread.
Where a current tidbit relating to US Soccer was posted:
Prompting these kind of responses from you :
While I asked you to re-read the initial comment, pointing out I even bolded the first sentence for you to easier understand this seemed to fall completely on deaf ears with you just carrying on.
Which begs the question - are you really the one to rule on what is "insulting and personal" in posts? When you have problems with misreading posts - even refusing to re-read them for clarification when asked to?
Now, over to:Meltdown99 said:and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
Let us return to the same Case study. This was your contribution to it:
I would ask the question then - what is your big contribution in this post? You, from the look of it seems to not even have read the initial post (or if like Mcgruff - refused to re-read it after misreading), instead having your first instinct be to jump on a bandwagon (which certain members seem to do like clockwork). Let me point out -- this coming after several posts and pages prompting to reread the initial post - which you, if you did even read it had the option to do. Instead you choose to post the above.
Also, regarding this:Meltdown99 said:
I agree.mcgruff10 said:
The reactions occur because the initial comment is insulting and personal; I do agree that the ignore feature is the way to go.PJ_Soul said:
I don't agree that this is just one person's fault at all. The reactions are what the problem is, not initial comments. Some people here refuse to just let someone say what he wants without flipping out and getting mad and super insulting and personal, and then a ridiculous back and forth argument ensues. Sonyeaj, I think the ignore feature would be helpful for all sides (it is always the usual suspects).Meltdown99 said:We do not need an ignore button...however it is useful. If you have a forum that allows political discussion people will disagree. My favourite forum I visit (not this one), allows 0 political threads or political talk.
and it always seems lately that threads are getting closed where one member continues on with discussions with a lot of nothing to contribute...and everyone here knows who it is.
People who goat people into bans...wtf is up with that. People need to learn to just walk away from some discussions (me included).
Is it not you veering into being "insulting and personal" with, and I quote, "seems more like a Swedish chap who has an inferiority complex" which - to further emphasize: doesn't seem to much of a contribution?
A third member @mickeyrat first response was to call me a "dumbfuck" - following that person ALSO having not read, or misread the post and jumping on said bandwagon -- also refusing to take a step back and re-read the post to understand when being prompted to.
Should be noted members (referencing here again said "bandwagon") chose to defend the use of "dumbfuck"/mocked the user objecting to being called a "dumbfuck" - even when it was apparent that insult came as a reaction from unwarranted ignorance. One of them being - ta-da - @Meltdown99 -- which makes your comments in here, more so absurd.
Thank you for reading the telling Case study of "The US Soccer" thread. Maybe things would go smoother if people chill with preconceived notions seemingly even clouding their reading ability and rushing to bandwagoning.
Around here, you need to use that fancy ignore button. (Oh, I have and it is delightful.) In the event that the mods get involved because someone is saying that someone called them a bad word, that is sad. I believe that we are adults.
I do not believe that this thread was started out to call people out and to set them in front of a firing squad for posting offenses. That's kind of what PMs are for. Feel free to hash that out amongst yourself to keep the free speech and posting privileges going, yes? Peace, y'all.
the post was to show an example, in response to peoples comments in here, on how people not even taking the time to actually read a post before going on an offense and lining up for the bandwagon. That was the point meant to be illustrared.
Regarding the ignore button. I think its a shitty Feature, on any message board.
I understand the issues with the ignore button, but if you (generalized you, not you personally) know that someone could potentially irritate you to an unreasonable point, I guess you (generalized you) need to know your limitations. There are just a few here who present that way to me, irritate me to no end and make some travels around here unpleasant. It's a personal thing and I understand not one that works for everyone.
I think it is a fundamentally and philosophically bad thing on a forum. So I would not use it."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I will say that many posts in this thread are blanked out due to the ignore button
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However I think that reasonable discussion is always welcome. Reasonable being the key term
What should be questioned are people trolling people and saying stupid stuff regularly. Certainly people hiding behind a bevy of things and consistently flagging posts and making passive aggressive comments should be questioned.
I do believe (strongly) that opinion is not fact. So, just because I think a statement/post is idiotic doesn't make it so. I do not think someone has a base to stand on by flagging quotes and claiming people are ganging up on them when they say dumb stuff. There is so much dumb stuff, imo, posted here. Repetitive posts on the same silliness. Repeated generalized statements about how the US is so dumb and messed up, etc....I just do not think you should make inflammatory statements and not expect honest responses.
Because you live in a different country or speak a different language does not make these comments less inflammatory.
Overall I agree with you, Brian. We should be able to discuss things here. I will say that I feel there are many people here who regularly play devil's advocate in the guise of "discussion" when the true purpose is to be a Troll. Some people have even admitted to arguing another side to further their idea of discussion. Say what you believe!
If you say something about a person or a group of people, you should expect a response. If your position is solid....great. deal with it and debate. If you position is weak...don't say you speak a different language or belong to a different party or live in a different country or whatever. Put your big boy pants on and deal with it.
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