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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    Yeah, it's becoming more and more difficult to disagree with you on this.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,857

    And then depression set in.


    This team is an absolute joke. An absolute joke.

    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,274
    don’t forget the Zen Master at the helm!
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Well guys, it’s been a fun run. These idiots are done. Going back to just getting our hopes up only to let us down every. single. time.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited July 2019
    What the hell is a Robel Garcia? Why wasn’t Heyward out there in the 9th? Nice day for Victor! Too bad he was the only one living up to his name.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,857

    Mr Bryant?

    Rookie of the year

    MVP

    And if they traded him today for some pitching prospects? I would say it was a good move. Mr.Bryant is not going to be the super-duper star we all thought he would be. Maybe I'm wrong.


    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    Wobbie said:
    don’t forget the Zen Master at the helm!
    I would not be surprised to see Joe Girardi back in a Cubs uniform next season.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491

    Mr Bryant?

    Rookie of the year

    MVP

    And if they traded him today for some pitching prospects? I would say it was a good move. Mr.Bryant is not going to be the super-duper star we all thought he would be. Maybe I'm wrong.


    We should’ve sold Tubby & Wifebeater after the World Series. They both had high value then. It pisses me off to see all the prospects we traded away performing well everywhere else, the guys we kept not even sniffing the hype they got, and the guys we got in trade lacking any regular production. 
    Every time to hear “There’s too much talent on this team, it’ll come together” I want to break something. It’s been regression every year. We will finish last in 2020, if not this season. 
    Our current record by every other division would put us in:
    NLE: 4th, 6.0 gb
    NLW: 2nd, 13.5 gb
    ALE: 4th, 11.5 gb
    ALC: 3rd, 10.0 gb (+1.5 on CHW)
    ALW: 4th, 10.gb 

    Avg 3.5th place and 10.2 gb in any other division in MLB. This team is just not that good.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Darvish threw 72 pitches in 6 innings and was losing 4-3. Of course we make Chris Archer look like a decent pitcher. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    @HesCalledDyer - there's too much talent on this team...it'll come together. 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited July 2019
    Btw I was at the game 2 nights ago when the Pirates came back in the 9th. Talk about deflating. You see this on tv over and over and it’s bad enough. To actually witness it in person. It was like watching classic shitty Cubs baseball again.
    That was not Kimbrel’s fault btw. He threw 2 routine ground balls, 2 fly balls, and a walk. Thanks to all the bonehead defense he only got one out from that.
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    Joe Maddon didn't make any bone headed coaching moves today.

    They didn't fail to drive in a run with a RISP and less than 2 outside today. 

    They didn't blow a save opportunity today.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    Nice outing from Lester yesterday. 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    Really? Nova again looking like a Cy Young winner against the Cubs? The guy with 3W, 62K and a 5.92ERA doesn't allow a run in 2 outings against the Cubs. His ERA was an 8 prior to his first matchup against this team. Oh brother!
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    Stick a fork in ‘em. 
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Really? Nova again looking like a Cy Young winner against the Cubs? The guy with 3W, 62K and a 5.92ERA doesn't allow a run in 2 outings against the Cubs. His ERA was an 8 prior to his first matchup against this team. Oh brother!
    There are three certainties in life: death, taxes, and if the opposing pitcher has an ERA over 6 the Cubs will make him look like the lovechild of Sandy Koufax & Nolan Ryan.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited July 2019
    Under .500 since May 1.  

    Theo once again with the "I trust this team" bullshit.  Just another way of saying "the talent is there, it's just waiting to come together."  The talent. ain't. fucking. there.  If it was, it would've come together already.  It's been three years, this ain't it, chief.  When they were young, they were dumb and hungry.  Now they've gotten complacent.  You know what pisses me off more than anything?  I've been bitching about patience at the plate since 2014.  5 fucking years and that has not improved.  Is it even on the fucking agenda with these players and coaches??  

    Here's a scouting report on Javier Baez, Kris Bryant, & Kyle Schwarber: Easiest way to get them out - don't throw anything even remotely fucking close to the strike zone. They'll swing away and down they'll go. No sabermetrics, no analytics needed.  Just do that. Those dumb fucks can't lay off. Ever.  50 Cent could be out there bouncing shit to the on deck circle and these motherfuckers would swing.

    Joe Genius Maddon and his "let's always go with the worst possible fucking reliever in the most volatile sitautions" philosophy which ALWAYS blows up in his god damn face yet still puts Edwards, Montgomery, & Brach every fucking chance he gets so he can "prove how smart he is."  Brandon Kintzler had thrown ONE pitch since June 26 until getting work today.  The only fucking reliever (perhaps the only pitcher, period) we've had with any consistency all season, and he never gets used.

    When do the Blackhawks play?
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^ And I’ll add that I listened to a game on the radio this weekend and Ron Coomer was saying how Maddon recently said something like “I know our best baseball is yet to come and I’m excited for that to happen.”  Really, Joe? Enough with the rainbows and sunshine BS. Joe must be smoking the good stuff.  I really think we need more of a hard ass manager at this point. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    bbiggs said:
    ^ And I’ll add that I listened to a game on the radio this weekend and Ron Coomer was saying how Maddon recently said something like “I know our best baseball is yet to come and I’m excited for that to happen.”  Really, Joe? Enough with the rainbows and sunshine BS. Joe must be smoking the good stuff.  I really think we need more of a hard ass manager at this point. 
    I think this is becoming eerily reminiscent of the Lovie Smith led Bears. Everything is not awful, but the laissez faire mentality is a bit too exaggerated in my opinion. Like most, I loved Maddon when he came to Chicago. I lived him even more around 11:15 p.m. CST on 11-2-16. He will forever hold a special place in my heart, and the heart of most Cubs fans. But, as a whole, there has been a gross inability for some of the talent to mature over the last couple seasons. For so many of the team members to "play through the whistle." Of course it cannot all go on Joe (i.e. swing and miss on Darvish, Schwarber etc...). But as mentioned above, his use of the bullpen is downright horrendous. I'll never forget game 7 as my brother and I were in left field and Maddon inexplicably pulled Hendricks after issuing a walk (though ball 4 was definitely strike 3). Indians fans were thrilled Hendricks was pulled because he had been pitching so well. All of us Cubs fans were shocked and perturbed. That move and his use of Chapman the game prior were the most obvious examples of Joe's inability to utilize the bullpen effectively. 

    I also really get disgusted when a player admires his home run....that hits the wall and bounces to the outfielder for a long single. Especially when you're a team that doesn't steal bases and does not hit for average. At least jog enough to guarantee yourself a double. Anything less is childish, pompous and selfish. If you hit a 450 shot, you know it. There is no guesswork there. Go ahead and look, if you must. But those are quite rare compared to the 400 dingers we generally see. Maybe I'm just a "get off my lawn" kind of guy, but for a team that is struggling so badly, this is the type of stuff that is so easy to control. 


    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    bbiggs said:
    ^ And I’ll add that I listened to a game on the radio this weekend and Ron Coomer was saying how Maddon recently said something like “I know our best baseball is yet to come and I’m excited for that to happen.”  Really, Joe? Enough with the rainbows and sunshine BS. Joe must be smoking the good stuff.  I really think we need more of a hard ass manager at this point. 
    I think this is becoming eerily reminiscent of the Lovie Smith led Bears. Everything is not awful, but the laissez faire mentality is a bit too exaggerated in my opinion. Like most, I loved Maddon when he came to Chicago. I lived him even more around 11:15 p.m. CST on 11-2-16. He will forever hold a special place in my heart, and the heart of most Cubs fans. But, as a whole, there has been a gross inability for some of the talent to mature over the last couple seasons. For so many of the team members to "play through the whistle." Of course it cannot all go on Joe (i.e. swing and miss on Darvish, Schwarber etc...). But as mentioned above, his use of the bullpen is downright horrendous. I'll never forget game 7 as my brother and I were in left field and Maddon inexplicably pulled Hendricks after issuing a walk (though ball 4 was definitely strike 3). Indians fans were thrilled Hendricks was pulled because he had been pitching so well. All of us Cubs fans were shocked and perturbed. That move and his use of Chapman the game prior were the most obvious examples of Joe's inability to utilize the bullpen effectively. 

    I also really get disgusted when a player admires his home run....that hits the wall and bounces to the outfielder for a long single. Especially when you're a team that doesn't steal bases and does not hit for average. At least jog enough to guarantee yourself a double. Anything less is childish, pompous and selfish. If you hit a 450 shot, you know it. There is no guesswork there. Go ahead and look, if you must. But those are quite rare compared to the 400 dingers we generally see. Maybe I'm just a "get off my lawn" kind of guy, but for a team that is struggling so badly, this is the type of stuff that is so easy to control. 


    Ab-so-fucking-lute-ly on all points!!

    And look, I get it.  It's not the end of the world.  We had to endure 5 absolutely horrid years of tanking prior to the recent success.  And today's times, even with all the "talent" remaining dormant, are nowhere near as bad as the 80's and 90's Cubs teams I grew up with where it was 70-some wins and anywhere from 4th-7th place (depending on divisional alignment) every. single. year.  But the thing is, with this current group, we were promised to "contend for years to come" and all it's done is regress into mediocrity.  2017 wasn't too bad, they got off to a rough start but still played closer to 2015/16 ball.  Last year was just sad.  How does a damn near division champ complete as many games scoring 0 or 1 run as the absolute by-far worst team in baseball?  And I know the weather & makeup schedule wasn't friendly to us last year, but Champions and contenders overcome that.  Baez went AWOL in September when the team needed him the most, and all he did was present the MVP to Christian Yelich in a silver fucking platter.  What was it, a 5.5 game lead they blew? With what, like 21 games left?  This year, the Cubs are currently .500 (24-24) against under .500 teams.  They are under 9 games under .500 on the road.  They're under .500 in 1-run games.  Anyone that thinks this team is a serious contender this year is a blithering fucking idiot, in complete denial, or both.

    Cubs: prove me wrong.  Your move.