Iran shoots down US drone

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  • jeffbr
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  • Hi!
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  • brianlux
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    Ethan Hawke starred in an excellent though disturbing  movie that really gives some thought provoking insight into drones and modern war. 

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  • Kat
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    Hey soul-eater. No more wars. There are other options, non-violent options to deal with a situation. Stop stoking the flames of war and trying to act like a tough guy. If you wouldn't send your own sons and daughters to war, and we know you wouldn't, don't send anyone else's sons and daughters to war. Figure out how to deal without bombs. 
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,306
    Did the US shoot down an Iranian drone?  Or was it the other way around?  Hard to tell via this thread. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    Jason P said:
    Did the US shoot down an Iranian drone?  Or was it the other way around?  Hard to tell via this thread. 
    No one has said that a US drone wasnt shot down. Not even Iran. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,306
    WH is downplaying it as a possible mistake made by an overzealous/incompetent individual in the Iran military. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    brianlux said:
    Ethan Hawke starred in an excellent though disturbing  movie that really gives some thought provoking insight into drones and modern war. 

    Hmm. Havent seen that one. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    I haven't seen it either; I'll keep an eye out for it now though, thank you.

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Jason P said:
    Did the US shoot down an Iranian drone?  Or was it the other way around?  Hard to tell via this thread. 
    No one has said that a US drone wasnt shot down. Not even Iran. 
    Do you really need the comment explained?  it's called sarcasm...
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    I'd like to suggest easing up on each other. We're just having exchanges of ideas and points of view. Thanks all.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Jason P said:
    Did the US shoot down an Iranian drone?  Or was it the other way around?  Hard to tell via this thread. 
    No one has said that a US drone wasnt shot down. Not even Iran. 
    Do you really need the comment explained?  it's called sarcasm...
    I can read. So yes I did know that. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • eddiec
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    We have it all documented scientifically not just words,” he said.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    eddiec said:
    We have it all documented scientifically not just words,” he said.
    Care to explain the science, Donny?
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    The Global Hawk.  I helped design the tail sections circa 2003.  just a young punk out of college listening to a shit load of Pearl Jam, smokin good Cali weed and having the time of my life.  Things have definitely come full circle.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    “Loose and stupid?” Is Eric running Iran now?
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    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d0c324de4b07ae90d9a9342

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  • oftenreading
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    Hi! said:
    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d0c324de4b07ae90d9a9342
    HuffPo seems mostly to be quoting the NYT, so here’s the original article. 

    Trump Approves Strikes on Iran, but Then Abruptly Pulls Back  
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Kat said:
    Hey soul-eater. No more wars. There are other options, non-violent options to deal with a situation. Stop stoking the flames of war and trying to act like a tough guy. If you wouldn't send your own sons and daughters to war, and we know you wouldn't, don't send anyone else's sons and daughters to war. Figure out how to deal without bombs. 
    Right on, Kat!

    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    brianlux said:
    Ethan Hawke starred in an excellent though disturbing  movie that really gives some thought provoking insight into drones and modern war. 

    Hmm. Havent seen that one. 

    Kat said:
    I haven't seen it either; I'll keep an eye out for it now though, thank you.

    It's really heavy, intense, disturbing, but a very brave movie and I can't think of anyone who could have done the lead roll better than Ethan Hawke.  It's a bold, brave, movie that lays out in the open the injustices of war.  I imagine the film makers took some heat for making this film.  And I must say, thank goodness for how it ends.
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  • g under p
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    https://youtu.be/EYV86PQcMBo

    The president may use our sons and daughters as Disposable Heroes let's hope to hell that doesn't happen. This is by far my favorite anti war songs from Metallica and at over 200 beats per minute it speaks of the horrors of war as it destroys the mind of a soldier....



     Bodies fill the fields I see, hungry heroes end
    No one to play soldier now, no one to pretend
    Running blind through killing fields, bred to kill them all
    Victim of what said should be, a servant 'til I fall

    [Pre-Chorus]
    Soldier boy, made of clay, now an empty shell
    Twenty-one, only son, but he served us well
    Bred to kill, not to care, do just as we say
    Finished here, greeting death, he's yours to take away

    [Chorus]
    Back to the front
    You will do what I say, when I say
    Back to the front
    You will die when I say, you must die
    Back to the front
    You coward, you servant, you blind man

    [Verse 2]
    Barking of machine-gun fire, does nothing to me now
    Sounding of the clock that ticks, get used to it somehow
    More a man, more stripes you wear, glory seeker trends
    Bodies fill the fields I see, the slaughter never ends

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