Iran shoots down US drone

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  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    I'd like to suggest easing up on each other. We're just having exchanges of ideas and points of view. Thanks all.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,566
    Jason P said:
    Did the US shoot down an Iranian drone?  Or was it the other way around?  Hard to tell via this thread. 
    No one has said that a US drone wasnt shot down. Not even Iran. 
    Do you really need the comment explained?  it's called sarcasm...
    I can read. So yes I did know that. 
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  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,920
    We have it all documented scientifically not just words,” he said.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    eddiec said:
    We have it all documented scientifically not just words,” he said.
    Care to explain the science, Donny?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,337
    “Loose and stupid?” Is Eric running Iran now?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    Hi! said:
    HuffPo seems mostly to be quoting the NYT, so here’s the original article. 

    Trump Approves Strikes on Iran, but Then Abruptly Pulls Back  
    https://nyti.ms/2Rq3yff

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,295
    Kat said:
    Hey soul-eater. No more wars. There are other options, non-violent options to deal with a situation. Stop stoking the flames of war and trying to act like a tough guy. If you wouldn't send your own sons and daughters to war, and we know you wouldn't, don't send anyone else's sons and daughters to war. Figure out how to deal without bombs. 
    Right on, Kat!

    brianlux said:
    Ethan Hawke starred in an excellent though disturbing  movie that really gives some thought provoking insight into drones and modern war. 

    Hmm. Havent seen that one. 

    Kat said:
    I haven't seen it either; I'll keep an eye out for it now though, thank you.

    It's really heavy, intense, disturbing, but a very brave movie and I can't think of anyone who could have done the lead roll better than Ethan Hawke.  It's a bold, brave, movie that lays out in the open the injustices of war.  I imagine the film makers took some heat for making this film.  And I must say, thank goodness for how it ends.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Looks like Drumpf pulled out at the last minute last night. I wish his father had.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,749
    I'm a little late to the party but don't want to be left out:



  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I'm a little late to the party but don't want to be left out:







    Speaking of party...

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    I feel a lot of people really want to break the bongos out of the attic and go into full war protest mode ... it has been a while for sure.  Some will have to wait at least a few days longer.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,295
    Jason P said:
    I feel a lot of people really want to break the bongos out of the attic and go into full war protest mode ... it has been a while for sure.  Some will have to wait at least a few days longer.
    I'm not sure what the bongo metaphor is (clue me, I really do try to keep up with the times), and I'm not sure what you mean here.  You mean, a lot of people are eager for war?  A lot of people are eager for war so they can have something to protest?  A lot of people are just simply eager to protest? 

    And, hey, how does it feel to feel all those people?  :lol:
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Hmmmm... I wish I had time for bongos and protests, unfortunately working 50 60 hrs a week, raising a family, and trying to keep up with bills really puts a big dent in time allowed for extra curricular activities. I guess putting down my phone could free up some time. Anyway, I’m glad our Commander and Chief pulled out at last minute. I think an escalation would only make things worse, but it seems ridiculous to give our leader credit for something he got us into. I don’t really consider myself anti war, and I’m definitely not naive enough to think Iran is innocent in all this, but for Trump to come into office and tear up the previous administrations work on the Iran nuke deal is pretty petty imo. My oldest brother is a disabled vet from the first gulf war, so yeah I will always stand against war and think war should be used as a last resort. I don’t know every detail about the Iran situation, but to unilaterally withdraw from the Iran nuke deal in the face of our allies is pretty fucked up. IDK
    If it makes anybody feel better and so I don’t come off as hypocritical I was also against Obama’s redline, and some of his administrations other decisions made as it relates to foreign policy and war and peace. I also wasn’t necessarily against Trump dropping the MOAB on the tunnels in Afghanistan. 

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    edited June 2019
    an UNMANNED drone was shot down.  hows about you just suck it up... dont threaten retaliation cause... it was an UNMANNED drone. and quite frankly, you shouldnt have been there in the first place. i know the US govt has a hard on for iran and will use any excuse to get in there but lets save the macho bullshit for a just cause.  and yes im well aware the idiot in chief 'pulled back' at the last minute.. how magnanimous of him. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,566
    edited June 2019
    Has it been determined If it was in irans airspace or not?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Each Backed Off Strikes: Trump in ’19, Obama in ’13, Clinton in ’98

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/22/us/politics/trump-obama-clinton-strikes.html
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    We just need to avoid a war until a democrat gets in office.  I don't need a sequel to "no more"
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    This is interesting because I was kind of thinking that something wasn’t adding up and maybe this narrative of Trump stopping a strike might be him trying to save face. IDK https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d0dd1bfe4b07ae90d9d7925

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,295
    an UNMANNED drone was shot down.  hows about you just suck it up... dont threaten retaliation cause... it was an UNMANNED drone. and quite frankly, you shouldnt have been there in the first place. i know the US govt has a hard on for iran and will use any excuse to get in there but lets save the macho bullshit for a just cause.  and yes im well aware the idiot in chief 'pulled back' at the last minute.. how magnanimous of him. 

    Exactly, Cate!

    What comes to my mind is- and I don't know if anyone has asked this already- but what do you suppose if things were the other way around?  You know,  their drone over our land? 

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  • RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited June 2019
    PresidentTrump does not have an itchy trigger finger.
    The last thing he wants is to get us into another quagmire.  He is not W.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Iran got a free pass this time.  Doubt they'll get another free pass...
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,295
    Iran got a free pass this time.  Doubt they'll get another free pass...
    What if Iran flew a drone over your home town?  Free pass/ no free pass?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Iran got a free pass this time.  Doubt they'll get another free pass...
    What if Iran flew a drone over your home town?  Free pass/ no free pass?
    Has it been determined that the drone was in Iranian airspace?

    And to answer your question ... I want the Canadian military to shoot it down, of course.  But if Iran has a drone flying over my house, something went terribly wrong with our defence systems, to be honest...lol. And if Iran is snooping around my town, have at it.  Not much to see here, just a small rural Ontario town...


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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,135
    Wtf was the drone  doing. I would shoot a drone down myself. Some prick was flying one over My friends garden whilst we were  outside.  It was invasive  to say the least and angered my greatly. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,295
    brianlux said:
    Iran got a free pass this time.  Doubt they'll get another free pass...
    What if Iran flew a drone over your home town?  Free pass/ no free pass?
    Has it been determined that the drone was in Iranian airspace?

    And to answer your question ... I want the Canadian military to shoot it down, of course.  But if Iran has a drone flying over my house, something went terribly wrong with our defence systems, to be honest...lol. And if Iran is snooping around my town, have at it.  Not much to see here, just a small rural Ontario town...


    I honestly don't know enough about the particulars.  Its' all modern hi tech warfare.  A crazy video game being played on a world-sized monitor.  Just the latest version of what humans can't seem to do without: WAR.  We are so goddamn good at war.  But where does it get us?  Nowhere.  No-friggin-where. 
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