2019-2020 NHL Season

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 10,174
    the points system is maddeningly awful.

    But, I would still award a point for an OTL, along with 2 for an OTW.  3 for regulation win, and 0 for regulation loss.  



  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 14,322
    edited May 13
    I didn't really like the 3 on 3. Seems too open.  Anyone know if it produced more scoring than 4x4?

    I don't know how prohibiting 2 line pass was good.  The number of breakaways has to be higher now,  especially those at end of a penalty kill. 
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    mrussel1 said:
    I didn't really like the 3 on 3. Seems too open.  Anyone know if it produced more scoring than 4x4?

    I don't know how prohibiting 2 line pass was good.  The number of breakaways has to be higher now,  especially those at end of a penalty kill. 
    The shootout sucks...they need to eliminate it...leave those gimmicky things in Europe...the 3 on 3 would produce a winner in most cases in 10 minutes...

    I do not know about the 2 line pass... I'm sure someone has stats on if it's improved the game.  

    Scotty Bowman Gives His Answers to Readers’ Questions
    https://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/scotty-bowman-answers-your-questions-2/

    Q: Mr. Bowman: Do you feel the overall play league-wide this past season has reverted back to the neutral-zone trap of the late ’90s and early ’00s? It seems as if the ice has shrunk again and players are having a difficult time finding open space to make plays. — William Makin

    SB: Because the center line has been removed, teams decided not to worry as much about the attacking zone or the neutral zone to defend. They’ve chosen to protect the scoring area in front of their own goal and bring their wingers down in that area with their defensemen — that’s why scoring is difficult. The scoring area is being protected now more than it ever has. In the choice scoring area, you’ll find too many players from both teams. There’s no room or time to score.

    I consider Bowman the greatest mind in hockey currently, quite possibly the 2nd greatest behind Sam Pollack...

    Easy to see why Montreal was so damn good in the '70s...they employed the 2 greatest hockey minds at the same time...
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 10,174
    Hopefully they ban 2-line passes again.  Would be great to provide more opportunities for Coaches Challenges
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 14,322
    MayDay10 said:
    Hopefully they ban 2-line passes again.  Would be great to provide more opportunities for Coaches Challenges
    This sounds suspiciously like sarcasm. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    the NHL game is better today that it has been in a long long time. do you guys not remember the awful 90s where it was impossible to score because of the defenses and allowing interference on every play?   Offenses are fine in today's NHL. Just becomes harder to score in the playoffs because all 5 defenders will try to block every shot in the zone.  that's the biggest issue in playoff hockey. getting shots through to the net.

    I'm not sure NBA will every truly take over either. there are just not enough teams that win on a year to year basis.something like the number 1 seeds have won over 70% of the NBA titles. and the 1 and 2 seeds something like 85%.  I think only 2 teams ever outside a 3 seed have won an NBA title.  the chalk plays in the NBA and it's pretty boring unless you are one of those teams.
    The '90s were awful.  I believe that is when the left wing lock and neutral zone trap systems were introduced.  I quit watching hockey in the '90s...I think the game is faster than ever, allowing for the small forwards to excel.
    Yup and as a Flyers fan I am still bitter about it.  If Lindros played under today's rules he'd be even more unstoppable than Ovechkin. 
    The Lindros situation was mismanagement of his career by a meddling father.  He put way to much pressure on the kid, he was dubbed the next one (Gretzky's heir apparent as the face of the NHL)...that's a lot to live up to.  I wonder if he just went to Quebec if that would have been better for him in the long run.

    I believe both he and his brothers are still experiencing symptoms from their concussions...

    Bobby Orr discussing Carl Lindros...

    Bobby Orr reveals some of his secrets in book
    https://montrealgazette.com/sports/bobby-orr-reveals-some-of-his-secrets-in-book

    There’s a great chapter in the book, Lessons From My Parents, in which Orr writes about the parents of a 14-year-old budding hockey star visiting his parents in Parry Sound looking for advice, asking Doug what he had done to get Bobby to the top.

    “My father’s response was short and sweet: Nothing,” Orr writes about what his dad told Carl Lindros.

    “I can’t remember my father ever trying to give me any instruction about how to play the game of hockey,” Orr adds. “His advice was to ‘Go out, have some fun, and let’s see what happens’.”

    Orr adds that too many parents today are trying to live their lives through their child’s success and wonders why anyone would want to turn their kid’s childhood “into preparation for a job.” He believes there’s something “very wrong” about kids playing hockey 12 months a year, adding it can create “hockey fatigue.” Orr played a lot of baseball as a youngster in the summer and believes that playing different sports turns kids into “athletes” and not just hockey players, which will give them an advantage in the long haul.

    The greatest defensemen ever had no parental interference...and was told to just have fun and we will see.  Carl Lindros was so overbearing he felt the need to seek out the advice of Orr's parents...
  • mpedonempedone Posts: 344

    Well, the 4 teams left...only Boston and Carolina have won the cup...but the 4 teams left do not have a history of winning championships...

    How long has Boston been in the league, 90 years and six championships...Never understood how in the original 6 eras how Montreal, Toronto and Detroit dominated while Boston, Chicago and Rangers did hardly anything...and Chicago and the Rangers are back to sucking.
    I'm no hockey historian, but I think it had to do with where the talent came from and the rules (or lack thereof) concerning locking up said talent. Most came from Canada, which favored Montreal and Toronto, and to some extent Detroit. Chicago, New York, and Boston had to fight for US-born talent and leftover Canadians, or had to rely on trades to acquire established talen. The Bruins landing Orr was a freak accident (the Leafs overlooked him), and even then they ran into Montreal's 70s juggernaut (aided by the lack of a salary cap). In the last 40 years or so, both Boston and Chicago have been plagued with horrible ownership/management.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,852
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    the NHL game is better today that it has been in a long long time. do you guys not remember the awful 90s where it was impossible to score because of the defenses and allowing interference on every play?   Offenses are fine in today's NHL. Just becomes harder to score in the playoffs because all 5 defenders will try to block every shot in the zone.  that's the biggest issue in playoff hockey. getting shots through to the net.

    I'm not sure NBA will every truly take over either. there are just not enough teams that win on a year to year basis.something like the number 1 seeds have won over 70% of the NBA titles. and the 1 and 2 seeds something like 85%.  I think only 2 teams ever outside a 3 seed have won an NBA title.  the chalk plays in the NBA and it's pretty boring unless you are one of those teams.
    The '90s were awful.  I believe that is when the left wing lock and neutral zone trap systems were introduced.  I quit watching hockey in the '90s...I think the game is faster than ever, allowing for the small forwards to excel.
    Yup and as a Flyers fan I am still bitter about it.  If Lindros played under today's rules he'd be even more unstoppable than Ovechkin. 
    The Lindros situation was mismanagement of his career by a meddling father.  He put way to much pressure on the kid, he was dubbed the next one (Gretzky's heir apparent as the face of the NHL)...that's a lot to live up to.  I wonder if he just went to Quebec if that would have been better for him in the long run.

    I believe both he and his brothers are still experiencing symptoms from their concussions...

    Bobby Orr discussing Carl Lindros...

    Bobby Orr reveals some of his secrets in book
    https://montrealgazette.com/sports/bobby-orr-reveals-some-of-his-secrets-in-book

    There’s a great chapter in the book, Lessons From My Parents, in which Orr writes about the parents of a 14-year-old budding hockey star visiting his parents in Parry Sound looking for advice, asking Doug what he had done to get Bobby to the top.

    “My father’s response was short and sweet: Nothing,” Orr writes about what his dad told Carl Lindros.

    “I can’t remember my father ever trying to give me any instruction about how to play the game of hockey,” Orr adds. “His advice was to ‘Go out, have some fun, and let’s see what happens’.”

    Orr adds that too many parents today are trying to live their lives through their child’s success and wonders why anyone would want to turn their kid’s childhood “into preparation for a job.” He believes there’s something “very wrong” about kids playing hockey 12 months a year, adding it can create “hockey fatigue.” Orr played a lot of baseball as a youngster in the summer and believes that playing different sports turns kids into “athletes” and not just hockey players, which will give them an advantage in the long haul.

    The greatest defensemen ever had no parental interference...and was told to just have fun and we will see.  Carl Lindros was so overbearing he felt the need to seek out the advice of Orr's parents...
    Lindros is a hall of famer so it's not like his dad hurt him that much.  and the only reason it hurt him in Philly is because Bob Clarke was a shitty and miserable prick as a GM.  Concussions obviously derailed him.  Of course the Scott Stevens hit in the playoffs today would warrent about a 5 game suspension.  different era.  if he played today...even more dominant than he was.

    what would be the reasoning behind putting the no 2 line pass rule back in?  I thought it was a dumb rule back in the day and would be even dumber today. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    the NHL game is better today that it has been in a long long time. do you guys not remember the awful 90s where it was impossible to score because of the defenses and allowing interference on every play?   Offenses are fine in today's NHL. Just becomes harder to score in the playoffs because all 5 defenders will try to block every shot in the zone.  that's the biggest issue in playoff hockey. getting shots through to the net.

    I'm not sure NBA will every truly take over either. there are just not enough teams that win on a year to year basis.something like the number 1 seeds have won over 70% of the NBA titles. and the 1 and 2 seeds something like 85%.  I think only 2 teams ever outside a 3 seed have won an NBA title.  the chalk plays in the NBA and it's pretty boring unless you are one of those teams.
    The '90s were awful.  I believe that is when the left wing lock and neutral zone trap systems were introduced.  I quit watching hockey in the '90s...I think the game is faster than ever, allowing for the small forwards to excel.
    Yup and as a Flyers fan I am still bitter about it.  If Lindros played under today's rules he'd be even more unstoppable than Ovechkin. 
    The Lindros situation was mismanagement of his career by a meddling father.  He put way to much pressure on the kid, he was dubbed the next one (Gretzky's heir apparent as the face of the NHL)...that's a lot to live up to.  I wonder if he just went to Quebec if that would have been better for him in the long run.

    I believe both he and his brothers are still experiencing symptoms from their concussions...

    Bobby Orr discussing Carl Lindros...

    Bobby Orr reveals some of his secrets in book
    https://montrealgazette.com/sports/bobby-orr-reveals-some-of-his-secrets-in-book

    There’s a great chapter in the book, Lessons From My Parents, in which Orr writes about the parents of a 14-year-old budding hockey star visiting his parents in Parry Sound looking for advice, asking Doug what he had done to get Bobby to the top.

    “My father’s response was short and sweet: Nothing,” Orr writes about what his dad told Carl Lindros.

    “I can’t remember my father ever trying to give me any instruction about how to play the game of hockey,” Orr adds. “His advice was to ‘Go out, have some fun, and let’s see what happens’.”

    Orr adds that too many parents today are trying to live their lives through their child’s success and wonders why anyone would want to turn their kid’s childhood “into preparation for a job.” He believes there’s something “very wrong” about kids playing hockey 12 months a year, adding it can create “hockey fatigue.” Orr played a lot of baseball as a youngster in the summer and believes that playing different sports turns kids into “athletes” and not just hockey players, which will give them an advantage in the long haul.

    The greatest defensemen ever had no parental interference...and was told to just have fun and we will see.  Carl Lindros was so overbearing he felt the need to seek out the advice of Orr's parents...
    Lindros is a hall of famer so it's not like his dad hurt him that much.  and the only reason it hurt him in Philly is because Bob Clarke was a shitty and miserable prick as a GM.  Concussions obviously derailed him.  Of course the Scott Stevens hit in the playoffs today would warrent about a 5 game suspension.  different era.  if he played today...even more dominant than he was.

    what would be the reasoning behind putting the no 2 line pass rule back in?  I thought it was a dumb rule back in the day and would be even dumber today. 
    Being in the hockey of fame means very little...in Canada, it's been a long-running joke that all you need is a pulse to get into the HOF.

    Not saying Lindros didn't deserve to be in...but he did not benefit from his father's meddling.  And he is not even in the same league as Ovi.  Ovi is likely to challenge Gretzky's goal record...Lindros would never even get close, even healthy...
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,852
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    the NHL game is better today that it has been in a long long time. do you guys not remember the awful 90s where it was impossible to score because of the defenses and allowing interference on every play?   Offenses are fine in today's NHL. Just becomes harder to score in the playoffs because all 5 defenders will try to block every shot in the zone.  that's the biggest issue in playoff hockey. getting shots through to the net.

    I'm not sure NBA will every truly take over either. there are just not enough teams that win on a year to year basis.something like the number 1 seeds have won over 70% of the NBA titles. and the 1 and 2 seeds something like 85%.  I think only 2 teams ever outside a 3 seed have won an NBA title.  the chalk plays in the NBA and it's pretty boring unless you are one of those teams.
    The '90s were awful.  I believe that is when the left wing lock and neutral zone trap systems were introduced.  I quit watching hockey in the '90s...I think the game is faster than ever, allowing for the small forwards to excel.
    Yup and as a Flyers fan I am still bitter about it.  If Lindros played under today's rules he'd be even more unstoppable than Ovechkin. 
    The Lindros situation was mismanagement of his career by a meddling father.  He put way to much pressure on the kid, he was dubbed the next one (Gretzky's heir apparent as the face of the NHL)...that's a lot to live up to.  I wonder if he just went to Quebec if that would have been better for him in the long run.

    I believe both he and his brothers are still experiencing symptoms from their concussions...

    Bobby Orr discussing Carl Lindros...

    Bobby Orr reveals some of his secrets in book
    https://montrealgazette.com/sports/bobby-orr-reveals-some-of-his-secrets-in-book

    There’s a great chapter in the book, Lessons From My Parents, in which Orr writes about the parents of a 14-year-old budding hockey star visiting his parents in Parry Sound looking for advice, asking Doug what he had done to get Bobby to the top.

    “My father’s response was short and sweet: Nothing,” Orr writes about what his dad told Carl Lindros.

    “I can’t remember my father ever trying to give me any instruction about how to play the game of hockey,” Orr adds. “His advice was to ‘Go out, have some fun, and let’s see what happens’.”

    Orr adds that too many parents today are trying to live their lives through their child’s success and wonders why anyone would want to turn their kid’s childhood “into preparation for a job.” He believes there’s something “very wrong” about kids playing hockey 12 months a year, adding it can create “hockey fatigue.” Orr played a lot of baseball as a youngster in the summer and believes that playing different sports turns kids into “athletes” and not just hockey players, which will give them an advantage in the long haul.

    The greatest defensemen ever had no parental interference...and was told to just have fun and we will see.  Carl Lindros was so overbearing he felt the need to seek out the advice of Orr's parents...
    Lindros is a hall of famer so it's not like his dad hurt him that much.  and the only reason it hurt him in Philly is because Bob Clarke was a shitty and miserable prick as a GM.  Concussions obviously derailed him.  Of course the Scott Stevens hit in the playoffs today would warrent about a 5 game suspension.  different era.  if he played today...even more dominant than he was.

    what would be the reasoning behind putting the no 2 line pass rule back in?  I thought it was a dumb rule back in the day and would be even dumber today. 
    Being in the hockey of fame means very little...in Canada, it's been a long-running joke that all you need is a pulse to get into the HOF.

    Not saying Lindros didn't deserve to be in...but he did not benefit from his father's meddling.  And he is not even in the same league as Ovi.  Ovi is likely to challenge Gretzky's goal record...Lindros would never even get close, even healthy...
    disagree
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,740
    If my Blues could quit turning the puck over, yeah, that'd be awesome...
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 25,521
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,740
    Wobbie said:
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    Good game tonight.  This could be a long series.  
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    Wobbie said:
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues.
    The league would love LA v NY in the finals...lol.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,485
    Wobbie said:
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues.
    If you live in the northeast you probably care about Bruins Canes. Especially as a whalers season ticket holder :)
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    Get_Right said:
    Wobbie said:
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues.
    If you live in the northeast you probably care about Bruins Canes. Especially as a whalers season ticket holder :)
    In the end, most fans are casual fans anyways.  Once their team is eliminated, they do not follow along closely.  Only hardcore fans like myself continue to watch, even though my team fail to qualify.  And the NHL in the US is to fast a game for most Americans to follow...lol...remember the fox tracker on the puck...lol
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,485
    Get_Right said:
    Wobbie said:
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues.
    If you live in the northeast you probably care about Bruins Canes. Especially as a whalers season ticket holder :)
    In the end, most fans are casual fans anyways.  Once their team is eliminated, they do not follow along closely.  Only hardcore fans like myself continue to watch, even though my team fail to qualify.  And the NHL in the US is to fast a game for most Americans to follow...lol...remember the fox tracker on the puck...lol
    Actually, I think the semis (maybe even the quarters) are when the casual US fans start to watch, no matter which teams are in. Hardcore fans watch all year long in the US. IMHO hockey is not popular in the US due to the lack of scoring, speed has nothing to do with it.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Wobbie said:
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues.
    If you live in the northeast you probably care about Bruins Canes. Especially as a whalers season ticket holder :)
    In the end, most fans are casual fans anyways.  Once their team is eliminated, they do not follow along closely.  Only hardcore fans like myself continue to watch, even though my team fail to qualify.  And the NHL in the US is to fast a game for most Americans to follow...lol...remember the fox tracker on the puck...lol
    Actually, I think the semis (maybe even the quarters) are when the casual US fans start to watch, no matter which teams are in. Hardcore fans watch all year long in the US. IMHO hockey is not popular in the US due to the lack of scoring, speed has nothing to do with it.
    Hockey has never been that popular in the US.  In the high flying 80's, it was not popular...

    Scoring has nothing to do with popularity...soccer is the most popular game on the planet...not much scoring there.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,485
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Wobbie said:
    seems like a bunch of teams no one cares about.....bruins “move the needle” but they’re a bunch of assholes. SJ, the same.

    give me the blues.
    If you live in the northeast you probably care about Bruins Canes. Especially as a whalers season ticket holder :)
    In the end, most fans are casual fans anyways.  Once their team is eliminated, they do not follow along closely.  Only hardcore fans like myself continue to watch, even though my team fail to qualify.  And the NHL in the US is to fast a game for most Americans to follow...lol...remember the fox tracker on the puck...lol
    Actually, I think the semis (maybe even the quarters) are when the casual US fans start to watch, no matter which teams are in. Hardcore fans watch all year long in the US. IMHO hockey is not popular in the US due to the lack of scoring, speed has nothing to do with it.
    Hockey has never been that popular in the US.  In the high flying 80's, it was not popular...

    Scoring has nothing to do with popularity...soccer is the most popular game on the planet...not much scoring there.
    Soccer is less popular than hockey in the US, although that is slowly changing. Scoring has everything to do with popularity in the US. Most popular sport in the US is our version of football and there are 6 or 3 points for a single score. This is a hockey thread so stick to hockey.  
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 17,585
    In many markets in the US, hockey is very popular.  In some markets it is a niche sport.
    Soccer is not very popular here.
    While I wish the NHL were more popular here, at times, I am fine with how it is, overall. 

    Glad the Blues tied it up last night.  Screw Burns, and I am bored at everyone jumping all over themselves to root for a guy who plays offense while lining up at defense. 


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 14,322
    The brains on Americans have not evolved sufficiently to track the puck.  It's just too darn fast for us. 
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 10,174
    edited May 14
    hockey isn't popular in the US because most people never played it and cannot relate to it from a young age.  It isn't popular, therefore kids tend to drift towards more socially popular sports like basketball and football.  They don't understand the rules, don't care to learn... and to be honest, typical games are boring to a casual observer.  Star power is tampered a bit (you could see a star player held off the board/slump for weeks at a time).  Hockey players are also boring for the most part.  They are well seasoned and trained to robotically say the right thing and never rock the boat.  Has Sidney Crosby ever done or said anything interesting?

    In pockets like some areas of New England, Minnesota, and Buffalo it is huge and it is as popular as Canada.... but those are places where almost every kid has a hockey stick in their hand by the age of 5.


    It isnt because the game is "too fast" for the dumb americans to follow or comprehend.  Cmon.
    Post edited by MayDay10 on
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 10,215
    Hockey, like baseball, is very regional with fans. They watch their home team but not a lot of out of market viewing.

    You won't get a lot of fans from Texas, Florida, North Dakota and Michigan tuning in for a national regular season broadcast of a Flyers/Bruins game on a Sunday afternoon, nor would many of those fans tune into the Phillies/Red Sox on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, but you'd damn sure get a lot of them to tune into Eagles/Patriots for Sunday Night Football.

    National viewership will increase to a degree in playoffs, especially finals, but nothing like the NFL or NBA will draw. Not even close.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,852
    Poncier said:
    Hockey, like baseball, is very regional with fans. They watch their home team but not a lot of out of market viewing.

    You won't get a lot of fans from Texas, Florida, North Dakota and Michigan tuning in for a national regular season broadcast of a Flyers/Bruins game on a Sunday afternoon, nor would many of those fans tune into the Phillies/Red Sox on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, but you'd damn sure get a lot of them to tune into Eagles/Patriots for Sunday Night Football.

    National viewership will increase to a degree in playoffs, especially finals, but nothing like the NFL or NBA will draw. Not even close.
    last Saturday night the NHL did a 1.2 rating on NBC (4.3 million viewers). the NBA did a 1.7 (5.33 million viewers).  it's closer than you think.

    and agree on the regional fan bases in hockey.  I always thought hockey did a poor job marketing to their already established fan bases. stop trying to get people in the non-markets to watch. what they need to improve their ratings is for fans in the hockey markets to watch other teams when they are on especially come playoff time.  too many fans are one team fans and don't continue watching once their team is eliminated.

    no sport in the US will come close to the NFL in ratings. the NFL has like the top 10 rated shows every week.  
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    MayDay10 said:
    hockey isn't popular in the US because most people never played it and cannot relate to it from a young age.  It isn't popular, therefore kids tend to drift towards more socially popular sports like basketball and football.  They don't understand the rules, don't care to learn... and to be honest, typical games are boring to a casual observer.  Star power is tampered a bit (you could see a star player held off the board/slump for weeks at a time).  Hockey players are also boring for the most part.  They are well seasoned and trained to robotically say the right thing and never rock the boat.  Has Sidney Crosby ever done or said anything interesting?

    In pockets like some areas of New England, Minnesota, and Buffalo it is huge and it is as popular as Canada.... but those are places where almost every kid has a hockey stick in their hand by the age of 5.


    It isnt because the game is "too fast" for the dumb americans to follow or comprehend.  Cmon.
    It was a fucking joke, or did you miss the lol and reference to the fox track.  Hockey players are not boring...that's a load of crap.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    mrussel1 said:
    The brains on Americans have not evolved sufficiently to track the puck.  It's just too darn fast for us. 
    It was a fucking joke...
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,485
    MayDay10 said:
    hockey isn't popular in the US because most people never played it and cannot relate to it from a young age.  It isn't popular, therefore kids tend to drift towards more socially popular sports like basketball and football.  They don't understand the rules, don't care to learn... and to be honest, typical games are boring to a casual observer.  Star power is tampered a bit (you could see a star player held off the board/slump for weeks at a time).  Hockey players are also boring for the most part.  They are well seasoned and trained to robotically say the right thing and never rock the boat.  Has Sidney Crosby ever done or said anything interesting?

    In pockets like some areas of New England, Minnesota, and Buffalo it is huge and it is as popular as Canada.... but those are places where almost every kid has a hockey stick in their hand by the age of 5.


    It isnt because the game is "too fast" for the dumb americans to follow or comprehend.  Cmon.
    It is also a very expensive sport to actually play.  I played as a kid and prayed to god my kids would not want to play. More so for the 5am practices than the cost. A lot of towns and schools simply do not have the resources to have a hockey league or a high school team.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    Hockey players are boring, now that is some straight up bullshit...


  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,312
    mrussel1 said:
    pjhawks said:
    the NHL game is better today that it has been in a long long time. do you guys not remember the awful 90s where it was impossible to score because of the defenses and allowing interference on every play?   Offenses are fine in today's NHL. Just becomes harder to score in the playoffs because all 5 defenders will try to block every shot in the zone.  that's the biggest issue in playoff hockey. getting shots through to the net.

    I'm not sure NBA will every truly take over either. there are just not enough teams that win on a year to year basis.something like the number 1 seeds have won over 70% of the NBA titles. and the 1 and 2 seeds something like 85%.  I think only 2 teams ever outside a 3 seed have won an NBA title.  the chalk plays in the NBA and it's pretty boring unless you are one of those teams.
    The '90s were awful.  I believe that is when the left wing lock and neutral zone trap systems were introduced.  I quit watching hockey in the '90s...I think the game is faster than ever, allowing for the small forwards to excel.
    And the two line pass. Im not sure I mentioned earlier but the NHL is unique in that it officiates differently in the playoffs.  No other league does that.  I think that stymies scoring  
    Why do you keep referencing the 2-line pass, it was brought back in 2005...it did fuck-all to increase scoring...

    The greatest coach of all-time has said it adds no benefit and does not help to score.  He has explained why.  Read up on it, he knows more about hockey than anyone alive...

    And if you wanna know how many breakaways it has added, do the research.  But facts are facts, allowing the skilled players to use their speed is increasing scoring...not the 2 line pass.


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