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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,836
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    I think a solid and well rounded 30 year old would make a much more appealing candidate, to me, than a 78 year old.
    However, one of those people is not allowed to run.  The other needs to re-take their driver's license to make sure they are not a risk to the world driving an automobile.
    No way, I wouldn't hire a 30 year old to run most of the depts in my company.  Simply not enough experience.  I'm not saying 78 is necessarily ideal, but 30 year old is no good either.  
    You can reasonably count on them being able to tie their own shoes at 38, though. 

    And, I get your point.  It is an exceptional 30 year old I would consider -- just as it would be an exceptional 78 year old.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,386
    Lerxst1992 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Need someone who doesn't have one foot in the grave.
    Age discrimination alive and well in America. 
    Sorry, but this is a lazy and relatively brainless statement. 
    We covered this previously - but there are lots of posts so we can do it again, if you would like.

    How about the fact that if I am 34 I cannot be POTUS?  Where is the Ageism cry against that?

    Age should be a viable consideration.  Would you elect someone who was 102?  12?



    Is it fair to openly say a woman is unqualified, or a black or a hispanic?

    Some 55 yo's have trouble with memory. I'd say Bernies mind is probably sharper than yours. Definitely mine (I'm about Stone's age FWIW )

    How can age possibly factor into these examples?

    ....
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    What's interesting is that if Google is to be believed, seems that most folks were living around 40 years at the time of the Constitution being drafted as a high average. Working off those ratios, and taking the average life span today to be 80 years, that constitutional mandate equates to a minimum residency term of 28 years, and a minimum age of 70. 
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  • my2hands
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    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bringing some discussion from the "impending impeachment" thread over here...it was suggested, correctly, that the "cooler" candidate wins.  

    So, who's "cooler" than Trump...well, just like with Bush, I don't get why people thought he was so cool.  But they do.  So...

    I don't see any of the democratic candidates as appreciably cooler with the exception of Beto.  Maybe Mayor Pete.  Joe?  No.  In 2016, I wanted Joe to run (not that the party would have allowed Hillary to lose).  He kinda had a sharp tongue and I think would have run up the score in the debates.  Now?  Now, we're embedded in the idea that we need someone "different."  And he's super-old.  He's not going to score any "cool" points.

    It doesn't look good.  I say run Kamala and Booker and hope he drops an n-bomb.

    No one here ever discusses the African American vote in the Democratic party, but it's impossible to underestimate how critical that is, and the fact that right Biden is dominating that vote.  He has real credibility in that demographic and the SC primary is very early in the process.  
    *ahem*

    Someone here has discussed it quite a bit :)
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bringing some discussion from the "impending impeachment" thread over here...it was suggested, correctly, that the "cooler" candidate wins.  

    So, who's "cooler" than Trump...well, just like with Bush, I don't get why people thought he was so cool.  But they do.  So...

    I don't see any of the democratic candidates as appreciably cooler with the exception of Beto.  Maybe Mayor Pete.  Joe?  No.  In 2016, I wanted Joe to run (not that the party would have allowed Hillary to lose).  He kinda had a sharp tongue and I think would have run up the score in the debates.  Now?  Now, we're embedded in the idea that we need someone "different."  And he's super-old.  He's not going to score any "cool" points.

    It doesn't look good.  I say run Kamala and Booker and hope he drops an n-bomb.

    No one here ever discusses the African American vote in the Democratic party, but it's impossible to underestimate how critical that is, and the fact that right Biden is dominating that vote.  He has real credibility in that demographic and the SC primary is very early in the process.  
    *ahem*

    Someone here has discussed it quite a bit :)
    Oh right, you were discussing the real blacks, not the kind that work in white collar jobs.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,585
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bringing some discussion from the "impending impeachment" thread over here...it was suggested, correctly, that the "cooler" candidate wins.  

    So, who's "cooler" than Trump...well, just like with Bush, I don't get why people thought he was so cool.  But they do.  So...

    I don't see any of the democratic candidates as appreciably cooler with the exception of Beto.  Maybe Mayor Pete.  Joe?  No.  In 2016, I wanted Joe to run (not that the party would have allowed Hillary to lose).  He kinda had a sharp tongue and I think would have run up the score in the debates.  Now?  Now, we're embedded in the idea that we need someone "different."  And he's super-old.  He's not going to score any "cool" points.

    It doesn't look good.  I say run Kamala and Booker and hope he drops an n-bomb.

    No one here ever discusses the African American vote in the Democratic party, but it's impossible to underestimate how critical that is, and the fact that right Biden is dominating that vote.  He has real credibility in that demographic and the SC primary is very early in the process.  
    *ahem*

    Someone here has discussed it quite a bit :)
    Oh right, you were discussing the real blacks, not the kind that work in white collar jobs.  
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bringing some discussion from the "impending impeachment" thread over here...it was suggested, correctly, that the "cooler" candidate wins.  

    So, who's "cooler" than Trump...well, just like with Bush, I don't get why people thought he was so cool.  But they do.  So...

    I don't see any of the democratic candidates as appreciably cooler with the exception of Beto.  Maybe Mayor Pete.  Joe?  No.  In 2016, I wanted Joe to run (not that the party would have allowed Hillary to lose).  He kinda had a sharp tongue and I think would have run up the score in the debates.  Now?  Now, we're embedded in the idea that we need someone "different."  And he's super-old.  He's not going to score any "cool" points.

    It doesn't look good.  I say run Kamala and Booker and hope he drops an n-bomb.

    No one here ever discusses the African American vote in the Democratic party, but it's impossible to underestimate how critical that is, and the fact that right Biden is dominating that vote.  He has real credibility in that demographic and the SC primary is very early in the process.  
    *ahem*

    Someone here has discussed it quite a bit :)
    Oh right, you were discussing the real blacks, not the kind that work in white collar jobs.  
    Still running with that bullshit narrative i see, you heard what you wanted obviously and completely missed the point. You claimed to have exposure to blacks and gays because you work in the banking industry, as if thats the only reason you know any blacks or gays. I still think that is funny. But whatever

    I'm happy your white collar job exposed you to minorities and homosexuals. 

    I was talking about the black vote, and got ridiculed for it, WAY before our previous discussion my friend. It's why Kaine was a horrible VP choice, and its why Hillary lost, not because of the russian nerds as NBC wants us to believe
  • F Me In The Brain
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    The whites in here get pretty riled up
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  • Jason P
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    The whites in here get pretty riled up
    PJ fans?  ;)
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Jason P said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    The whites in here get pretty riled up
    PJ fans?  ;)
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  • my2hands
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    calmer than you are, dude
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  • tbergs
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    Jason P said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    The whites in here get pretty riled up
    PJ fans?  ;)
    Whowillneverleave

    Haha! Nice throwback shout out.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bringing some discussion from the "impending impeachment" thread over here...it was suggested, correctly, that the "cooler" candidate wins.  

    So, who's "cooler" than Trump...well, just like with Bush, I don't get why people thought he was so cool.  But they do.  So...

    I don't see any of the democratic candidates as appreciably cooler with the exception of Beto.  Maybe Mayor Pete.  Joe?  No.  In 2016, I wanted Joe to run (not that the party would have allowed Hillary to lose).  He kinda had a sharp tongue and I think would have run up the score in the debates.  Now?  Now, we're embedded in the idea that we need someone "different."  And he's super-old.  He's not going to score any "cool" points.

    It doesn't look good.  I say run Kamala and Booker and hope he drops an n-bomb.

    No one here ever discusses the African American vote in the Democratic party, but it's impossible to underestimate how critical that is, and the fact that right Biden is dominating that vote.  He has real credibility in that demographic and the SC primary is very early in the process.  
    *ahem*

    Someone here has discussed it quite a bit :)
    Oh right, you were discussing the real blacks, not the kind that work in white collar jobs.  
    Still running with that bullshit narrative i see, you heard what you wanted obviously and completely missed the point. You claimed to have exposure to blacks and gays because you work in the banking industry, as if thats the only reason you know any blacks or gays. I still think that is funny. But whatever

    I'm happy your white collar job exposed you to minorities and homosexuals. 

    I was talking about the black vote, and got ridiculed for it, WAY before our previous discussion my friend. It's why Kaine was a horrible VP choice, and its why Hillary lost, not because of the russian nerds as NBC wants us to believe
    We already declared you the local victor of the game show "I Know Black People".  Your uncanny knowledge and deep experience going back to high school sports makes you uniquely qualified to express your opinion, clearly over matching all others.  I mean, hell, you can safely say that you understand the differences of every region, socio-economic class and education level.  I don't know why any of us bother to levy an opinion. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDcA9BIB_NQ
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Jason P said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    The whites in here get pretty riled up
    PJ fans?  ;)
    Whowillneverleave

    Really nicely done. 
  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bringing some discussion from the "impending impeachment" thread over here...it was suggested, correctly, that the "cooler" candidate wins.  

    So, who's "cooler" than Trump...well, just like with Bush, I don't get why people thought he was so cool.  But they do.  So...

    I don't see any of the democratic candidates as appreciably cooler with the exception of Beto.  Maybe Mayor Pete.  Joe?  No.  In 2016, I wanted Joe to run (not that the party would have allowed Hillary to lose).  He kinda had a sharp tongue and I think would have run up the score in the debates.  Now?  Now, we're embedded in the idea that we need someone "different."  And he's super-old.  He's not going to score any "cool" points.

    It doesn't look good.  I say run Kamala and Booker and hope he drops an n-bomb.

    No one here ever discusses the African American vote in the Democratic party, but it's impossible to underestimate how critical that is, and the fact that right Biden is dominating that vote.  He has real credibility in that demographic and the SC primary is very early in the process.  
    *ahem*

    Someone here has discussed it quite a bit :)
    Oh right, you were discussing the real blacks, not the kind that work in white collar jobs.  
    Still running with that bullshit narrative i see, you heard what you wanted obviously and completely missed the point. You claimed to have exposure to blacks and gays because you work in the banking industry, as if thats the only reason you know any blacks or gays. I still think that is funny. But whatever

    I'm happy your white collar job exposed you to minorities and homosexuals. 

    I was talking about the black vote, and got ridiculed for it, WAY before our previous discussion my friend. It's why Kaine was a horrible VP choice, and its why Hillary lost, not because of the russian nerds as NBC wants us to believe
    We already declared you the local victor of the game show "I Know Black People".  Your uncanny knowledge and deep experience going back to high school sports makes you uniquely qualified to express your opinion, clearly over matching all others.  I mean, hell, you can safely say that you understand the differences of every region, socio-economic class and education level.  I don't know why any of us bother to levy an opinion. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDcA9BIB_NQ
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  • my2hands
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    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Bringing some discussion from the "impending impeachment" thread over here...it was suggested, correctly, that the "cooler" candidate wins.  

    So, who's "cooler" than Trump...well, just like with Bush, I don't get why people thought he was so cool.  But they do.  So...

    I don't see any of the democratic candidates as appreciably cooler with the exception of Beto.  Maybe Mayor Pete.  Joe?  No.  In 2016, I wanted Joe to run (not that the party would have allowed Hillary to lose).  He kinda had a sharp tongue and I think would have run up the score in the debates.  Now?  Now, we're embedded in the idea that we need someone "different."  And he's super-old.  He's not going to score any "cool" points.

    It doesn't look good.  I say run Kamala and Booker and hope he drops an n-bomb.

    No one here ever discusses the African American vote in the Democratic party, but it's impossible to underestimate how critical that is, and the fact that right Biden is dominating that vote.  He has real credibility in that demographic and the SC primary is very early in the process.  
    *ahem*

    Someone here has discussed it quite a bit :)
    Oh right, you were discussing the real blacks, not the kind that work in white collar jobs.  
    Still running with that bullshit narrative i see, you heard what you wanted obviously and completely missed the point. You claimed to have exposure to blacks and gays because you work in the banking industry, as if thats the only reason you know any blacks or gays. I still think that is funny. But whatever

    I'm happy your white collar job exposed you to minorities and homosexuals. 

    I was talking about the black vote, and got ridiculed for it, WAY before our previous discussion my friend. It's why Kaine was a horrible VP choice, and its why Hillary lost, not because of the russian nerds as NBC wants us to believe
    We already declared you the local victor of the game show "I Know Black People".  Your uncanny knowledge and deep experience going back to high school sports makes you uniquely qualified to express your opinion, clearly over matching all others.  I mean, hell, you can safely say that you understand the differences of every region, socio-economic class and education level.  I don't know why any of us bother to levy an opinion. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDcA9BIB_NQ
    Riiiiiiiight, i said all that.

    Are you daft? ;)
  • my2hands
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    That's a great skit by the way
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,968
    Hopefully, this means Dem candidates will have an honest chance in Ohio. That's all anyone needs.

    Court Strikes Down Ohio Congressional Map, Says Too Gerrymandered To Benefit GOP
    The court blocked the state from using its current map in any future elections. It gave lawmakers until June 14 to come up with a new one.
    By Sam Levine
    Today
     
    A panel of three federal judges struck down Ohio’s congressional map on Friday, ruling the districts were so severely drawn to benefit Republicans that they violated the U.S. Constitution. 

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ohio-gerrymandering-court-ruling_n_5ccc7638e4b0e4d757322294
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    gerrymander

    great term

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