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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Also calling Daario Naharis returning as the captain of the Golden Company
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    They showed the Golden Company in the trailer. A guy that looked like Jaime Lannister appeared to be leading.
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    I like the Euron casting but they made him soooo clowny. I think the actor could’ve pulled off a completely dark take on the character.

    F Me In The Brain said:
    DewieCox said:
    If Tyrion is a Targaryen it completely ruins his arc. Him being Tywin’s only trueborn and the twins being fathered by Aerys would fit much better if we’re going with Lannister’s as hidden Targs. 

    There arw are just so many ludicrous theories driven by the long wait and over analysis of the material we have.
    I feel like that one was dangled during the books moreso than the show. 
    At this point there is not much that could ruin Tyrion for me.  Dude is awesome.

    I still think there’s very little to go on. For me, their relationship is such an identifying factor in both of their characters it would detract if they went with such an unnecessary plot twist.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,831
    Ed Sheeran as the campfire singing Lannister cracked me up.
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  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    mca47 said:
    wall232 said:
    Just finished my rewatch of the entire series, man there were tons of things i forgot.

    Stay away from spoilers sites and reddit, the whole first episode was pretty much spoiled already.


    I'm trying to get through them all.  I'm currently on season 6 episode 2.
    Don't know if I'm going to make it in time!   
    You're almost there, a few late nights and you'll be good to go. 

    I read somewhere that George R.R. Martin said that everyone should at least try to rewatch the first season as a lot of the things are foreshadowed there.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Not me, Tyrion is in the right camp, especially when it comes to light that he is part of Dany's family tree.  (His momma hooked up with a blonde dude at some point, which is really why his father hated him so much.)
    It was just the way Tyrion looked at the room after Dany and Jon went in.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    I agree that Euron has been terribly portrayed in the show.   
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,426
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree that Euron has been terribly portrayed in the show.   
    I'll go one further and say the entire Greyjoy clan has been a drag for years. The fact that we've had to endure Theon this long is ridiculous and then they go and introduce over-the-top super bad guy Euron to annoy us more. They should all be white walker bait.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    tbergs said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree that Euron has been terribly portrayed in the show.   
    I'll go one further and say the entire Greyjoy clan has been a drag for years. The fact that we've had to endure Theon this long is ridiculous and then they go and introduce over-the-top super bad guy Euron to annoy us more. They should all be white walker bait.
    Yeah, I was going to expand a bit, but didnt.

    The Iron-Islands arc works in the book, but it is possibly the weakest story line.  A lot of the best parts are Aeron Damphair and some of the ritualistic and predisposition background info the peoples are to be a kingdom of pirates basically.   Not sure it could really be translated well to the television.  Euron's band of mutants and scum was/is cool.... but post twisting Theon into a treacherous tool, the Iron Islands don't serve too much purpose.  They seemed to try to eliminate everything and just try to make Euron over-the top to compensate for the lack of Iron Islands world-building you get in the reading.

    Theon's POV and arc back in the 5th book is a high point, so I dont mind having him around.
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    wall232 said:
    mca47 said:
    wall232 said:
    Just finished my rewatch of the entire series, man there were tons of things i forgot.

    Stay away from spoilers sites and reddit, the whole first episode was pretty much spoiled already.


    I'm trying to get through them all.  I'm currently on season 6 episode 2.
    Don't know if I'm going to make it in time!   
    You're almost there, a few late nights and you'll be good to go. 

    I read somewhere that George R.R. Martin said that everyone should at least try to rewatch the first season as a lot of the things are foreshadowed there.
    Yeah, this Friday and Saturday nights are going to be long ones!  Been knocking out 1-2 episodes a night most nights.
    Season 6 episode 5 or so...
    Must finish...!
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    So my son asked me last night and I totally forget, where in the story line do the books end?
    Alright, alright, alright!
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    JK_Livin said:
    So my son asked me last night and I totally forget, where in the story line do the books end?
    It’s been a while since I read them, but I think right after Tyrion went on the lamb the series started to branch off from the book storyline.  It kind of followed the books but put their own spin on it. 
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    JK_Livin said:
    So my son asked me last night and I totally forget, where in the story line do the books end?

    Jon stabbed, Dany off by herself with the dragon without having met Tyrion.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Thank you
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    Tom O.
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    -The Writer
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Just finished "Spoils of War" (S7 E4).

    Very awesome battle and great to finally see the long-awaited dragon scorching a standing army scene.  The battle scenes in this show do not disappoint.  I am disappointed though that they glossed over the Battle of the Camps, which was the high point in Robb Stark's rebellion, and logistically a really cool rout that would have shined on-screen.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    The 4th and 5th books also split up the characters and kind of run concurrently 
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    edited April 2019
    Yeah, after the third book (in the 4th season) the plot lines started to divert a bit from the books, although it seems the major plot points meet together where needed.


    *spoilers through right now for both

    Brienne's wanderings were completely different

    Cersei's scheme to get margeary imprisoned was much more diabolical and set up by her, instead of persecuting gays and trying to lie about it.  Cersei was also much drunker and paranoid at this point up until her own imprisonment 

    Jaime's travels were a bit more righteous and he and Cersei were kind of appalled by one another

    Tommen was much more childish and threw up everywhere at Tywin's funeral because for some reason his corpse was rotting by the hour.

    Jon Snow didnt go and save everyone at Hardhome and bring them back through the wall.  He cut a deal with Tormund to allow people through the wall and to populate the abandoned castles on the wall.  And he sent Samwell and Aemon to oldtown against sam's wishes because he didnt want Team Stannis to burn Aemon or Mance Rayder's kid who doesnt appear in the show.  Mance Rayder is also glammed into Rattleshirt and fake burned as Rattleshirt glammed to Mance (all by Melisandre) in order for him to go to Winterfell and rescue "Arya" from the Boltons, only Arya was really Jayne Poole pretending to be Arya so the Boltons can claim the North, (Jayne was Ned Starks' former Steward's daughter).... all of which the show writers merged into Sansa being there instead.

    Also the Freys were all being killed gradually by Catelyn's reanimated corpse riding with the Brotherhood Without Banners and also by Wyman Manderly

    Dany is still slogging in Meereen in both, although Barristan wasnt killed, and the battle in the fighting pits was much different and was basically just a dragon eating people while someone attempted and failed to poison Dany with a bowl of honeyed locusts

    All sorts of other characters going to join the party in Meereen that the show writers were probably smart to consolidate (Quentyn, Prince Aegon, Jon Connington, and Victarion.)
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    So I just finished Season 7, Episode 5: Eastwatch.

    For the first time, I am a bit unhappy with the writing.  The whole plot to go capture a Wight for Cersei seems unnecessary and a huge stretch on plausible thought.  And to risk like 9 major characters, including leaders of major factions (on foot nonetheless) is too much to suspend believeablily. Not to mention it would take a long time to get from Dragonstone to the wall, finish the expedition, travel back down to Kings Landing, then back up to Eastwatch.  We are talking years.  I dont let the 'teleportation' get to me too much, but this is awful.  When they get back to Kings Landing with a wight, Cersei better be breastfeeding.

    And all rational thought would point toward Cersei not giving a fuck.  

    And Cersei/Lannisters do not possess a standing army at this point so a cease fire seems pointless (and who/where would they even attack?)
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    They could have flown the wight back via Air Dragon.  I guess I’m so used to fast travel in Skyrim. 
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    MayDay10 said:
    So I just finished Season 7, Episode 5: Eastwatch.

    For the first time, I am a bit unhappy with the writing.  The whole plot to go capture a Wight for Cersei seems unnecessary and a huge stretch on plausible thought.  And to risk like 9 major characters, including leaders of major factions (on foot nonetheless) is too much to suspend believeablily. Not to mention it would take a long time to get from Dragonstone to the wall, finish the expedition, travel back down to Kings Landing, then back up to Eastwatch.  We are talking years.  I dont let the 'teleportation' get to me too much, but this is awful.  When they get back to Kings Landing with a wight, Cersei better be breastfeeding.

    And all rational thought would point toward Cersei not giving a fuck.  

    And Cersei/Lannisters do not possess a standing army at this point so a cease fire seems pointless (and who/where would they even attack?)
    Just like the books, that time in between scenes during the episodes, and in between whole episodes differs. Sometimes weeks have passed between different scenes. Just like it does in chapters of the books, sometimes much less.  Sometimes they take place at the same time. (But there are still some teleportation issues in the last two seasons). Doubt it would take years, by boat for that travel. Maybe months at best. I don't find it unreasonable that between the end of episode 6 and 7, one or two months passed.  And this has happened in the books, maybe even more so at times. I've always taken in that the end of summer into fall and then then winter on the show has taken maybe 5-6 years. In the books, with similar travel, they have covered roughly 3 years from what I have guessed. 

    but yes, sending Jon north of the wall was a stretch. Could have sent another group. 
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    edited April 2019
    Yeah, I understand with the 'teleportation', we cant have it stretched out like the first 3-4 seasons were with putting the travel adventures and camping 'on screen' and have this thing have 50 episodes to get through the last 2.5 seasons...  So far, to this point, I think you can make a case that time has passed with each teleportation.... at least enough of a case where it doesn't rip me out of being immersed in the story.

    But they are in this urgent 'time' situation, and this was the big idea (presented by the most brilliant strategist in the story).  To travel up north, beyond the wall (on foot), back down again, and presumably back up again.... all just after introducing some "time sensitive" plot points of the Army of the Dead relentlessly marching down on Eastwatch, AND Cersei being pregnant.  

    And the potential payoff of this plan doesn't seem to make any sense.
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