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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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    Anyone here buy a pencil neck Adam Schiff t-shirt yet? I like the light blue color myself but am holding out to see what other hues they do.

    Some on Mueller’s Team Say Report Was More Damaging Than Barr Revealed


    Some of Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators have told associates that Attorney General William P. Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and that they were more troubling for President Trump than Mr. Barr indicated, according to government officials and others familiar with their simmering frustrations.

    At stake in the dispute — the first evidence of tension between Mr. Barr and the special counsel’s office — is who shapes the public’s initial understanding of one of the most consequential government investigations in American history. Some members of Mr. Mueller’s team are concerned that, because Mr. Barr created the first narrative of the special counsel’s findings, Americans’ views will have hardened before the investigation’s conclusions become public.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html


  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited April 2019
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Anyone here buy a pencil neck Adam Schiff t-shirt yet? I like the light blue color myself but am holding out to see what other hues they do.
    I’d like to think that even if I was on Team Red, I would not buy t-shirts that Totally Own the Libs.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Anyone here buy a pencil neck Adam Schiff t-shirt yet? I like the light blue color myself but am holding out to see what other hues they do.
    I’d like to think that even if I was on Team Red, I would not buy t-shirts that Totally Own the Libs.
    Maybe They hang it up next to their liquor in the front, poker in the rear Wild West saloon t-shirt that they wear on ladies night around town?
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  • josevolution
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    BS might of spiked the football 🏈 too soon ! 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    The Baffoon has already stated he wants to abolish the ACÁ , and he wants to run his re-election campaign on health care..
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  • my2hands
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    josevolution said:
    The Baffoon has already stated he wants to abolish the ACÁ , and he wants to run his re-election campaign on health care..
    If they came up with a viable plan that would be 
     interesting... but i'm not holding my breath lol, even Obama handed it over to the lobbyists
  • Bentleyspop
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OnWis97 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Anyone here buy a pencil neck Adam Schiff t-shirt yet? I like the light blue color myself but am holding out to see what other hues they do.
    I’d like to think that even if I was on Team Red, I would not buy t-shirts that Totally Own the Libs.
    Maybe They hang it up next to their liquor in the front, poker in the rear Wild West saloon t-shirt that they wear on ladies night around town?
    It hangs right next to their ed hardy and affliction t-shirts
  • dignin
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    Mueller’s Team Gathered ‘Alarming’ Trump Obstruction Evidence: Washington Post



    The Washington Post     has backed up the New York Times report from late Wednesday that some members of Robert Mueller’s team have said the special counsel report is much worse for the president than was suggested by Attorney General William Barr. In its report, the Post goes a step further, claiming some members of Mueller’s team have complained to close associates that they gathered “alarming and significant” evidence of obstruction by President Trump. “It was much more acute than Barr suggested,” one source is reported to have said.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/muellers-team-gathered-alarming-trump-obstruction-evidence-washington-post

    And water is wet.


  • mfc2006
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    dignin said:

    Mueller’s Team Gathered ‘Alarming’ Trump Obstruction Evidence: Washington Post



    The Washington Post     has backed up the New York Times report from late Wednesday that some members of Robert Mueller’s team have said the special counsel report is much worse for the president than was suggested by Attorney General William Barr. In its report, the Post goes a step further, claiming some members of Mueller’s team have complained to close associates that they gathered “alarming and significant” evidence of obstruction by President Trump. “It was much more acute than Barr suggested,” one source is reported to have said.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/muellers-team-gathered-alarming-trump-obstruction-evidence-washington-post

    And water is wet.


    It will all eventually come to light, I hope.

    I wasn't surprised at all that Barr (appointed by Trump for this very purpose) stated everything to benefit his boss. I'm also not surprised that Trump is taking a victory lap saying he's been "fully exonerated" even though Barr himself said that the findings did not fully exonerate Trump from the obstruction charge. Such a shitshow and an absolute embarrassment. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mfc2006 said:
    dignin said:

    Mueller’s Team Gathered ‘Alarming’ Trump Obstruction Evidence: Washington Post



    The Washington Post     has backed up the New York Times report from late Wednesday that some members of Robert Mueller’s team have said the special counsel report is much worse for the president than was suggested by Attorney General William Barr. In its report, the Post goes a step further, claiming some members of Mueller’s team have complained to close associates that they gathered “alarming and significant” evidence of obstruction by President Trump. “It was much more acute than Barr suggested,” one source is reported to have said.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/muellers-team-gathered-alarming-trump-obstruction-evidence-washington-post

    And water is wet.


    It will all eventually come to light, I hope.

    I wasn't surprised at all that Barr (appointed by Trump for this very purpose) stated everything to benefit his boss. I'm also not surprised that Trump is taking a victory lap saying he's been "fully exonerated" even though Barr himself said that the findings did not fully exonerate Trump from the obstruction charge. Such a shitshow and an absolute embarrassment. 
    But where are all the law and order repubs that went after both Clinton’s and Obama relentlessly. Ahhh, obstruction of justice? No big deal, I guess.
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  • mfc2006
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mfc2006 said:
    dignin said:

    Mueller’s Team Gathered ‘Alarming’ Trump Obstruction Evidence: Washington Post



    The Washington Post     has backed up the New York Times report from late Wednesday that some members of Robert Mueller’s team have said the special counsel report is much worse for the president than was suggested by Attorney General William Barr. In its report, the Post goes a step further, claiming some members of Mueller’s team have complained to close associates that they gathered “alarming and significant” evidence of obstruction by President Trump. “It was much more acute than Barr suggested,” one source is reported to have said.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/muellers-team-gathered-alarming-trump-obstruction-evidence-washington-post

    And water is wet.


    It will all eventually come to light, I hope.

    I wasn't surprised at all that Barr (appointed by Trump for this very purpose) stated everything to benefit his boss. I'm also not surprised that Trump is taking a victory lap saying he's been "fully exonerated" even though Barr himself said that the findings did not fully exonerate Trump from the obstruction charge. Such a shitshow and an absolute embarrassment. 
    But where are all the law and order repubs that went after both Clinton’s and Obama relentlessly. Ahhh, obstruction of justice? No big deal, I guess.
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mfc2006 said:
    dignin said:

    Mueller’s Team Gathered ‘Alarming’ Trump Obstruction Evidence: Washington Post



    The Washington Post     has backed up the New York Times report from late Wednesday that some members of Robert Mueller’s team have said the special counsel report is much worse for the president than was suggested by Attorney General William Barr. In its report, the Post goes a step further, claiming some members of Mueller’s team have complained to close associates that they gathered “alarming and significant” evidence of obstruction by President Trump. “It was much more acute than Barr suggested,” one source is reported to have said.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/muellers-team-gathered-alarming-trump-obstruction-evidence-washington-post

    And water is wet.


    It will all eventually come to light, I hope.

    I wasn't surprised at all that Barr (appointed by Trump for this very purpose) stated everything to benefit his boss. I'm also not surprised that Trump is taking a victory lap saying he's been "fully exonerated" even though Barr himself said that the findings did not fully exonerate Trump from the obstruction charge. Such a shitshow and an absolute embarrassment. 
    But where are all the law and order repubs that went after both Clinton’s and Obama relentlessly. Ahhh, obstruction of justice? No big deal, I guess.
    I agree. They're hypocrites toeing the party line.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mfc2006 said:
    dignin said:

    Mueller’s Team Gathered ‘Alarming’ Trump Obstruction Evidence: Washington Post



    The Washington Post     has backed up the New York Times report from late Wednesday that some members of Robert Mueller’s team have said the special counsel report is much worse for the president than was suggested by Attorney General William Barr. In its report, the Post goes a step further, claiming some members of Mueller’s team have complained to close associates that they gathered “alarming and significant” evidence of obstruction by President Trump. “It was much more acute than Barr suggested,” one source is reported to have said.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/muellers-team-gathered-alarming-trump-obstruction-evidence-washington-post

    And water is wet.


    It will all eventually come to light, I hope.

    I wasn't surprised at all that Barr (appointed by Trump for this very purpose) stated everything to benefit his boss. I'm also not surprised that Trump is taking a victory lap saying he's been "fully exonerated" even though Barr himself said that the findings did not fully exonerate Trump from the obstruction charge. Such a shitshow and an absolute embarrassment. 
    But where are all the law and order repubs that went after both Clinton’s and Obama relentlessly. Ahhh, obstruction of justice? No big deal, I guess.
    Breaking the law and going against the constitution is okay with them as long as you're....

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
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  • tbergs
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    Politico had a good article a few days back that compared the Mueller report coming out to when the report on Nixon came out and things are still playing out almost exactly.

    I think it speaks a lot to Mueller's credibility that he is letting the legal wheels of justice slowly bring this along to the proper conclusion. There are very few people who could have handled this investigation the way he did.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    edited April 2019
    tbergs said:
    Politico had a good article a few days back that compared the Mueller report coming out to when the report on Nixon came out and things are still playing out almost exactly.

    I think it speaks a lot to Mueller's credibility that he is letting the legal wheels of justice slowly bring this along to the proper conclusion. There are very few people who could have handled this investigation the way he did.
    Based on what?

    The mythologisation of Mueller has been interesting to follow
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    @my2hands
    @mcgruff10
    @BS44325

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    Considering everything, that's kind of a very minor concern isn't it?

    I know if I worked 2 years on a 400 page report and a Trump flunky miss-represented it with 4 page summary and the media and Trump ran with only that I would be a little hot under the collar.

    They aren't really leaks either, more rumblings.
  • jeffbr
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Anyone here buy a pencil neck Adam Schiff t-shirt yet? I like the light blue color myself but am holding out to see what other hues they do.
    Nah, I'm waiting for the camel toe neck t-shirt to come out. In pink. Let me know if you come across one.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    jeffbr said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Anyone here buy a pencil neck Adam Schiff t-shirt yet? I like the light blue color myself but am holding out to see what other hues they do.
    Nah, I'm waiting for the camel toe neck t-shirt to come out. In pink. Let me know if you come across one.
    That's a rare one, I've only seen it in orange.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,370
    dignin said:
    jeffbr said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Anyone here buy a pencil neck Adam Schiff t-shirt yet? I like the light blue color myself but am holding out to see what other hues they do.
    Nah, I'm waiting for the camel toe neck t-shirt to come out. In pink. Let me know if you come across one.
    That's a rare one, I've only seen it in orange.
    Variant?
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