If this ever does happen, please please please do it in a city. No sheds in the sticks.
You’re the only person, anywhere, ever who doesn’t think Alpine Valley is awesome. Must be lonely.
I'm quite OK with having my own opinion.
Cool. Maybe next time you can express it in a less insulting way.
I insulted you? Please. You may want to thicken that skin.
Many of these amphitheatres (sheds) are located far enough from the nearest city (sticks) to make getting there more difficult than necessary for traveling fans.
This includes Mansfield which is 30 minutes from me. I can't imagine getting upset because someone said as much.
Isnt pj30 supposed to be in 2020? They started in 1990 and celebrated their 10 year anniversary in 2000
No 2021. They did PJ20 in 2011
PJ20 in 2011 was a year late. Let's not argue with math.
I am not arguing with math. I am just going by what the band has laid out in the last 2 milestones. 2011 was consider PJ 20 a year late or not. 2016 marked their 25th anniversary according to them. If they were going to do something 2021 would follow that pattern. I hope it is next year myself.
Their first official anniversary celebration was in 2000 - 10 years from the date of the first gig on 10-22-1990. Maybe celebrating PJ20 in 2011 rather than 2010, and their 25 year anniversary in 2016 rather than 2015 was the same logic that they're now applying to the Fan Club singles! Everything since 2011 is now always 1 year late!
Most likely everything will be two years late soon, so expect PJ30 to take place in 2022
Ha! Does this work the other way as well? Does an 11 year gap between anniversaries 10 and 20 mean it hasn't really been six years since Lightning Bolt?
I’d much prefer if this was held in a major city - New York, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles. More flights, more hotels, subways, etc.
I’d much prefer if this was held in a major city - New York, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles. More flights, more hotels, subways, etc.
I do like the idea of it being in the middle of the country. Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans, etc.
I do not care where it is to be honest just acknowledge it like they did for PJ20. They did nothing for PJ25 which is fine but they hyped it up in 2015 and yes we got a great tour but nothing specific to the anniversary unless you count the ballpark shows I guess.
I'm good with Alpine Valley too... had a GREAT time there in 2011!!yes its perfect for this kind of event
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If this ever does happen, please please please do it in a city. No sheds in the sticks.
You’re the only person, anywhere, ever who doesn’t think Alpine Valley is awesome. Must be lonely.
I'm quite OK with having my own opinion.
Cool. Maybe next time you can express it in a less insulting way.
I insulted you? Please. You may want to thicken that skin.
Many of these amphitheatres (sheds) are located far enough from the nearest city (sticks) to make getting there more difficult than necessary for traveling fans.
This includes Mansfield which is 30 minutes from me. I can't imagine getting upset because someone said as much.
I’m not personally insulted. I live in Milwaukee and have no affiliation with the venue itself. But being from southeast Wisconsin, I know that the community around Alpine Valley has a lot of pride in the Amphitheatre and I doubt they’d appreciate it being called a “shed in the sticks”. I just thought there were more respectful ways of making your point.
If some people see the location or lack of accommodations in the immediate area as a limitation and don’t want to go, fine. It’ll be easier for me to get a ticket. I’ve been going to concerts there since I was a kid. The fact that PJ, who could’ve chosen any venue for PJ20, selected Alpine for the anniversary meant a lot to me. Venues like that have always been a part of the band’s history and, for me, it makes me love and respect them even more.
Like I said, I live in Milwaukee. The drive to and from East Troy doesn’t take that long and there are plenty of hotels and AirBnBs here. I’d still prefer seeing PJ there than at the Summerfest grounds or the new Bucks arena (which will also be awesome). Alpine Valley is also permitting people to camp on the grounds after concerts, which is really cool.
Before people remind me of all the reasons that arena shows are easier and aren’t complicated by weather, and bigger markets are easier for fans who can afford to travel for shows, etc, I get it. We don’t need to go back over all that. But I for one am grateful that this band loves playing outdoors and isn’t afraid of some of the logistical challenges of playing different venues for us fans who appreciate that kind of experience. There’s something here for all of us.
If this ever does happen, please please please do it in a city. No sheds in the sticks.
If it is in a city, it needs to be in the middle of the country. That was one of the best things about PJ20. It was accessible for everyone.
Not really. It just meant it was an equal pain for everyone. Seems like most travel for these big events anyway, so it doesnt really matter which direction I am traveling.
I'm good with Alpine Valley too... had a GREAT time there in 2011!!!
Where the hell did the last (almost) decade go??
It's just flown by... but LOTS of great shows in that (almost) decade!!!
For sure! I've been able to introduce 6 different people to their first PJ shows (2 of whom have gone on to their 2nd w/me), met some other really cool people along the way, got to see my favorite band in 3 cities and 5 venues I've never been to, finally got to see them in my home state, and at Wrigley Field during the Cubs World Series run! It's been fun!
I think it is more likely that we will get a second song from "the forthcoming album" in 2020 or 2021!
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I’d much prefer if this was held in a major city - New York, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles. More flights, more hotels, subways, etc.
I do like the idea of it being in the middle of the country. Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans, etc.
I’d much prefer if this was held in a major city - New York, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles. More flights, more hotels, subways, etc.
I do like the idea of it being in the middle of the country. Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans, etc.
I’d much prefer if this was held in a major city - New York, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles. More flights, more hotels, subways, etc.
I do like the idea of it being in the middle of the country. Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans, etc.
I’d much prefer if this was held in a major city - New York, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Los Angeles. More flights, more hotels, subways, etc.
I do like the idea of it being in the middle of the country. Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans, etc.
I do ,i think its a BIG deal for them it might be in 2020 or 2021 who knows?????
PJ Cuyahoga Flalls OH 8/26/1998 PJ Noblesviile IN 8/18/2000 PJ Cincinnatti OH 8/20/2000 PJ Columbus OH 8/21/2000 PJ Columbus OH 6/24/2003 PJ Hamilton Ontario 9/13/2005 PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005 PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006 PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008..... e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008 e.V Philly PA 6/11/2009 e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009... PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009 .PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009. PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010 PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010. BRAD Columbus OH 10/5/2010 e.V St.Louis MO 7/1/2011 .PJ.. East Troy WI 9/3/2011..PJ..East Troy WI 9/4/2011 Neil Young & Crazy Horse Cleveland OH 10/8/2012 RNDM Chicago IL11/13/2012 Alice In Chains/SoundGarden Columbus OH 5/19/2013 AIC Fort Wayne IN 5/21/2013 PJ Pittsburgh PA 10/11/2013 AIC Cincinnati OH 5/17/2014 AIC Cleveland OH 5/19/2014 AIC Indianapolis IN 8/19/2014 PJ Cincinnati OH 10/1/2014 AIC Cincinnati OH 8/06/2015 RNDM Chicago IL 3/15/2016 PJ Columbia SC 4\21\2016 PJ Lexington KY 4/26/2016 PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2016 Soundgarden Columbus OH 5/20/2017 Canceled RIP Chris AIC Columbus OH 5/18/2018 PJ Chicago IL 8/18/2018 PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2018 PJ St Louis Missouri 9/18/2022 AIC Cuyohoga falls Oh. 8/16/2019 SHAWNSMITH Rip 2019Mark Lanegan Band 5/18/19
How about a proper tour instead of 2 shows with 8 days of merch sales?
Bingo.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
PJ Cuyahoga Flalls OH 8/26/1998
PJ Noblesviile IN 8/18/2000
PJ Cincinnatti OH 8/20/2000
PJ Columbus OH 8/21/2000
PJ Columbus OH 6/24/2003
PJ Hamilton Ontario 9/13/2005
PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005
PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006
PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008
e.V Philly PA 6/11/2009
e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009...
PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009
.PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009.
PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010
PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010.
BRAD Columbus OH 10/5/2010
e.V St.Louis MO 7/1/2011
.PJ.. East Troy WI 9/3/2011..PJ..East Troy WI 9/4/2011
Neil Young & Crazy Horse Cleveland OH 10/8/2012
RNDM Chicago IL11/13/2012
Alice In Chains/SoundGarden Columbus OH 5/19/2013
AIC Fort Wayne IN 5/21/2013
PJ Pittsburgh PA 10/11/2013
AIC Cincinnati OH 5/17/2014
AIC Cleveland OH 5/19/2014
AIC Indianapolis IN 8/19/2014
PJ Cincinnati OH 10/1/2014
AIC Cincinnati OH 8/06/2015
RNDM Chicago IL 3/15/2016
PJ Columbia SC 4\21\2016
PJ Lexington KY 4/26/2016
PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2016
Soundgarden Columbus OH 5/20/2017 Canceled RIP Chris
AIC Columbus OH 5/18/2018
PJ Chicago IL 8/18/2018 PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2018
PJ St Louis Missouri 9/18/2022
AIC Cuyohoga falls Oh. 8/16/2019
SHAWNSMITH Rip 2019Mark Lanegan Band 5/18/19
but LOTS of great shows in that (almost) decade!!!
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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If some people see the location or lack of accommodations in the immediate area as a limitation and don’t want to go, fine. It’ll be easier for me to get a ticket. I’ve been going to concerts there since I was a kid. The fact that PJ, who could’ve chosen any venue for PJ20, selected Alpine for the anniversary meant a lot to me. Venues like that have always been a part of the band’s history and, for me, it makes me love and respect them even more.
Like I said, I live in Milwaukee. The drive to and from East Troy doesn’t take that long and there are plenty of hotels and AirBnBs here. I’d still prefer seeing PJ there than at the Summerfest grounds or the new Bucks arena (which will also be awesome). Alpine Valley is also permitting people to camp on the grounds after concerts, which is really cool.
Before people remind me of all the reasons that arena shows are easier and aren’t complicated by weather, and bigger markets are easier for fans who can afford to travel for shows, etc, I get it. We don’t need to go back over all that. But I for one am grateful that this band loves playing outdoors and isn’t afraid of some of the logistical challenges of playing different venues for us fans who appreciate that kind of experience. There’s something here for all of us.
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I think I'd remember the rules a little better if I didn't have a beer in my hand every time I've played it.
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Audioslave 2005 MSG
PJ Cuyahoga Flalls OH 8/26/1998
PJ Noblesviile IN 8/18/2000
PJ Cincinnatti OH 8/20/2000
PJ Columbus OH 8/21/2000
PJ Columbus OH 6/24/2003
PJ Hamilton Ontario 9/13/2005
PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005
PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006
PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008
e.V Philly PA 6/11/2009
e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009...
PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009
.PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009.
PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010
PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010.
BRAD Columbus OH 10/5/2010
e.V St.Louis MO 7/1/2011
.PJ.. East Troy WI 9/3/2011..PJ..East Troy WI 9/4/2011
Neil Young & Crazy Horse Cleveland OH 10/8/2012
RNDM Chicago IL11/13/2012
Alice In Chains/SoundGarden Columbus OH 5/19/2013
AIC Fort Wayne IN 5/21/2013
PJ Pittsburgh PA 10/11/2013
AIC Cincinnati OH 5/17/2014
AIC Cleveland OH 5/19/2014
AIC Indianapolis IN 8/19/2014
PJ Cincinnati OH 10/1/2014
AIC Cincinnati OH 8/06/2015
RNDM Chicago IL 3/15/2016
PJ Columbia SC 4\21\2016
PJ Lexington KY 4/26/2016
PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2016
Soundgarden Columbus OH 5/20/2017 Canceled RIP Chris
AIC Columbus OH 5/18/2018
PJ Chicago IL 8/18/2018 PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2018
PJ St Louis Missouri 9/18/2022
AIC Cuyohoga falls Oh. 8/16/2019
SHAWNSMITH Rip 2019Mark Lanegan Band 5/18/19