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Except Team Mueller has to receive the transcripts, determine how many charges of perjury or lying to Congress to draw up, make arguments to the grand jury, wait for them to find a determination and then file indictments, if warranted, and allow those to run their course. Would any “reasonable” person categorize that as “close?” Me thinks not but you know, justice for the accused and all.OnWis97 said:
In fairness "close" is an opinion and since it's been going on for two years, another few weeks is "close." I still have my doubts that it's true, but I hope...Halifax2TheMax said:So the repubs took a month to appoint their members to the intelligence committees, finally appointing them yesterday. As such, the earliest Team Mueller will get transcripts of the Team trump Treason co-conspirators testimony from the respective committees is next Tuesday, February 5th. So, the acting AG, Whitaker, knowingly lied when he said, "the Mueller investigation is close to being completed." Or he's complicit? Or wholly incompetent and in way over his head? Or all three? "Only the best people folks, only the best people."
What are the repubs hiding? Do they not have faith in due process? Why are they protecting and lying and trying to derail the Team Mueller investigation? Particularly if,“There was no collusion.”
“I don’t know any Russians.”
“I have nothing to hide.”
“I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
“We do everything by the book.”
“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
“Very legal, very cool.”
Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
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            "THE FIELD"Halifax2TheMax said:
The SDNY is the one saving grace in all of this sordidness as Team Trump Treason can’t pardon his kids or himself from those potential charges, and those charges will be waiting for him and hanging over their heads until they drop. Not that he probably cares.Ledbetterman10 said:
Then he probably wouldn't do it. But if Don Jr. ever has to face the music, I bet Trump would pardon him, and maybe even go as far as to resign if he had to. I have to imagine that even Trump, evil as he may be, would do whatever he had to do to keep his kids out of jail.Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:Question: Assuming he's even still president by then, would Trump be able to pardon Stone if Stone were convicted? He's indicted on federal charges so I'd imagine the answer is yes right?
Yup, but it’d be political suicide. His senate and House support is fading and nobody up for re-election wants to be or can be supportive of that, including Mitchy Baby.
I think you intended to cite the NY AGs office because SDNY is part of the US Attorney's Office supervised currently by Matthew Whittaker.
IMO it will be difficult for the NY AG to have a successful prosecution of a Trump if Mueller passes on indicting anyone in the first crime family of America.
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True, I did. With all the investigations flying around, it’s hard to keep straight everything. Currently, there are three investigative avenues, Team Mueller, SDNY and NYAG. Team Trump Treason should fear all three as they all pose threats in their own way but the NYAG is the one he can’t pardon from. That said, I can see SDNY “advising” NYAG on where to look.Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The SDNY is the one saving grace in all of this sordidness as Team Trump Treason can’t pardon his kids or himself from those potential charges, and those charges will be waiting for him and hanging over their heads until they drop. Not that he probably cares.Ledbetterman10 said:
Then he probably wouldn't do it. But if Don Jr. ever has to face the music, I bet Trump would pardon him, and maybe even go as far as to resign if he had to. I have to imagine that even Trump, evil as he may be, would do whatever he had to do to keep his kids out of jail.Halifax2TheMax said:Ledbetterman10 said:Question: Assuming he's even still president by then, would Trump be able to pardon Stone if Stone were convicted? He's indicted on federal charges so I'd imagine the answer is yes right?
Yup, but it’d be political suicide. His senate and House support is fading and nobody up for re-election wants to be or can be supportive of that, including Mitchy Baby.
I think you intended to cite the NY AGs office because SDNY is part of the US Attorney's Office supervised currently by Matthew Whittaker.
IMO it will be difficult for the NY AG to have a successful prosecution of a Trump if Mueller passes on indicting anyone in the first crime family of America.
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            And he was worried about his little dogs being frightened by the guys in black with guns?
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Why do you hate his dogs?Halifax2TheMax said:And he was worried about his little dogs being frightened by the guys in black with guns?
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I don’t hate his dogs. What gave you that impression?cincybearcat said:
Why do you hate his dogs?Halifax2TheMax said:And he was worried about his little dogs being frightened by the guys in black with guns?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics/roger-stone-evidence-mueller/index.html
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Just messing with you. Cause I bet those dogs were actually probably scared big time! Of course, that isn't on the FBI, that's on Stone.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t hate his dogs. What gave you that impression?cincybearcat said:
Why do you hate his dogs?Halifax2TheMax said:And he was worried about his little dogs being frightened by the guys in black with guns?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics/roger-stone-evidence-mueller/index.html
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It was in the context of what they seized and how both sides requested a gag on the evidence once shared. He’s got much bigger things to be worried about as his grand jury is still seated. Roger Dodger Stoned could be facing much more serious charges. Maybe he should have had a couple of pit bulls or Rottweilers?cincybearcat said:
Just messing with you. Cause I bet those dogs were actually probably scared big time! Of course, that isn't on the FBI, that's on Stone.Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t hate his dogs. What gave you that impression?cincybearcat said:
Why do you hate his dogs?Halifax2TheMax said:And he was worried about his little dogs being frightened by the guys in black with guns?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics/roger-stone-evidence-mueller/index.html
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I'm going to start a Warren thread first, see how that goes....after that? Who knows...Meltdown99 said:Now you all did it. What are some of you gonna do now that you can't argue Trump all day...lolhippiemom = goodness0 - 
            
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I'm going to start a Warren thread first, see how that goes....after that? Who knows...Meltdown99 said:Now you all did it. What are some of you gonna do now that you can't argue Trump all day...lolGive Peas A Chance…0 - 
            
Please do. Keep all that faux outrage out of the Trump thread.cincybearcat said:
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Ok. Wouldn’t want it to get mixed up with taking about trumps hair, skin color, toilet paper on his shoe, etc.dignin said:
Please do. Keep all that faux outrage out of the Trump thread.cincybearcat said:
I'm going to start a Warren thread first, see how that goes....after that? Who knows...Meltdown99 said:Now you all did it. What are some of you gonna do now that you can't argue Trump all day...lol
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Don't forget his weightcincybearcat said:
Ok. Wouldn’t want it to get mixed up with taking about trumps hair, skin color, toilet paper on his shoe, etc.dignin said:
Please do. Keep all that faux outrage out of the Trump thread.cincybearcat said:
I'm going to start a Warren thread first, see how that goes....after that? Who knows...Meltdown99 said:Now you all did it. What are some of you gonna do now that you can't argue Trump all day...lol0 - 
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Or tan suit. Does he....oh no, that was Fox News talking about Obama.cincybearcat said:
Ok. Wouldn’t want it to get mixed up with taking about trumps hair, skin color, toilet paper on his shoe, etc.dignin said:
Please do. Keep all that faux outrage out of the Trump thread.cincybearcat said:
I'm going to start a Warren thread first, see how that goes....after that? Who knows...Meltdown99 said:Now you all did it. What are some of you gonna do now that you can't argue Trump all day...lol
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