jeff on chris and recording

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  • prlprl Posts: 98
    edited January 22


    If Ed isn't feeling like doing music right now, due to family life, charity work, no interest, etc.whatever...then maybe some configuration of the band makes one without him. That sucks, and could effectively end the band..
    I don't think that sucks. They've done it before with Neil Young when the whole "Eddie's the new leader of the group, where do we go from here?" unfolded. Neil had the guys join him in studio and together they made a great record, creativity flowed and tensions got reliefed.

    At this point where Stone and Jeff want to make and recorsd music, Matt is constantly doing something music related and Mike's all arts, colors and sound this would be the best thing they could do.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 13,269
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 4,409
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 5,350
    PJNB said:
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.
    If that was the only thing that had been said or non-actions of Eddie and the band, you may have a point, but everything else says otherwise. We don't know the exact reasons, but it seems pretty clear that music isn't a focus right now and hasn't been. Maybe the 10C and PJ should at least get on the same page so we stop getting conflicting information on the band's interest levels in being a band. Yeah, they can do what they want, but it doesn't seem they know what they want and instead we get the 10C dishing out vague statements like a certain WH press secretary. Apparently being a mushroom is fun for us because we're always in the dark and being fed shit.
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  • RiderRider Posts: 107
    PJNB said:
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.

    I don't get it?  I do not think that the people who expressed moderate concerns about the lack of new music, the ending of the ten club single, the very limited touring, an increased commercialism and the apparent general malaise within the PJ organization based on actual comments from band members and the actual factual lack of output are being cruel or whatever.  All of that is true.  What becomes of the band from here is still to be determined and I hope it's an awesome rebirth of PJ as a creative force and moral compass for rock or something...........if that is what they want.  Right now, I think they are riding on fumes and their previously built good will.  And that is a little bit painful to me!
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 13,269
    tbergs said:
    PJNB said:
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.
    If that was the only thing that had been said or non-actions of Eddie and the band, you may have a point, but everything else says otherwise. We don't know the exact reasons, but it seems pretty clear that music isn't a focus right now and hasn't been. Maybe the 10C and PJ should at least get on the same page so we stop getting conflicting information on the band's interest levels in being a band. Yeah, they can do what they want, but it doesn't seem they know what they want and instead we get the 10C dishing out vague statements like a certain WH press secretary. Apparently being a mushroom is fun for us because we're always in the dark and being fed shit.
    I get all that.  I just find it entertaining that every little tidbit of info we get, regardless of who we get it from or how or where, leads down to someone eventually jumping to the conclusion the band is breaking up/doesn't want to be together/certain members are to blame/etc.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,294
    edited January 23
    tbergs said:
    PJNB said:
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.
    If that was the only thing that had been said or non-actions of Eddie and the band, you may have a point, but everything else says otherwise. We don't know the exact reasons, but it seems pretty clear that music isn't a focus right now and hasn't been. Maybe the 10C and PJ should at least get on the same page so we stop getting conflicting information on the band's interest levels in being a band. Yeah, they can do what they want, but it doesn't seem they know what they want and instead we get the 10C dishing out vague statements like a certain WH press secretary. Apparently being a mushroom is fun for us because we're always in the dark and being fed shit.
    I get all that.  I just find it entertaining that every little tidbit of info we get, regardless of who we get it from or how or where, leads down to someone eventually jumping to the conclusion the band is breaking up/doesn't want to be together/certain members are to blame/etc.
    They haven't had an album in how long?  They are barely together now! ;)

    Based on the comments from Stone and Jeff they want to make music.  I was them to make music together.  However that gets done, I don't care.
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  • BC62528BC62528 Posts: 56
    Let's give the band, particularly Ed, a break here. At some point a new album will most likely happen, probably in time for a VFC mini tour.  Ed is probably finishing up the final touches on the Holiday Singles and that is the reason there has been a delay in the band getting together to record...lol
  • DEGBTIDEGBTI san diegoPosts: 191
    Ed said at the last concert, Boston, the next time we will play together will be in the studio, or something like that. So you would have to assume he is planning on it, just when is the question.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,278
    Nobody on this board knows anything about Ed's choices or ideas for the future. His absence at TOTD shows and the CC tribute mean very little in the grand scheme of things. If I had $100m in the bank I would be spending more time with my kids and family.  Especially if I lost a close friend under tragic circumstances.  
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 15,757
    DEGBTI said:
    Ed said at the last concert, Boston, the next time we will play together will be in the studio, or something like that. So you would have to assume he is planning on it, just when is the question.
    They were in the studio recently when they sent that holiday video
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  • smithnicsmithnic Posts: 1,502
    Get_Right said:
    Nobody on this board knows anything about Ed's choices or ideas for the future. His absence at TOTD shows and the CC tribute mean very little in the grand scheme of things. If I had $100m in the bank I would be spending more time with my kids and family.  Especially if I lost a close friend under tragic circumstances.  
    I also would skip an evening in an arena with fans who didn't know my friend and would want me to have my grief and feelings on display as entertainment not to mention Miley Cyrus also be there.  That concert was fine and all, but I have no qualms for anyone skipping it.  Anyone who is bagging on anyone not being there is ridiculous.  No one has to grieve or perform their grief for you or your little get together.  
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  • kaw753kaw753 Posts: 82
    PJNB said:
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.
    The only logical solution is to replace him with Gary Cherone. 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 10,278
    smithnic said:
    Get_Right said:
    Nobody on this board knows anything about Ed's choices or ideas for the future. His absence at TOTD shows and the CC tribute mean very little in the grand scheme of things. If I had $100m in the bank I would be spending more time with my kids and family.  Especially if I lost a close friend under tragic circumstances.  
    I also would skip an evening in an arena with fans who didn't know my friend and would want me to have my grief and feelings on display as entertainment not to mention Miley Cyrus also be there.  That concert was fine and all, but I have no qualms for anyone skipping it.  Anyone who is bagging on anyone not being there is ridiculous.  No one has to grieve or perform their grief for you or your little get together.  
    Yup. See my post in the tribute thread.  Made for TV dreck.
  • Get_Right said:
    Nobody on this board knows anything about Ed's choices or ideas for the future. His absence at TOTD shows and the CC tribute mean very little in the grand scheme of things. If I had $100m in the bank I would be spending more time with my kids and family.  Especially if I lost a close friend under tragic circumstances.  
    Let me just put something else here that follows what this guy is saying... During Toronto Night 2 a few years back now, the Toronto Raptors needed their court for a game during playoffs, on the same day Pearl Jam were supposed to play. PJ were playing two nights in a row, so night 2 got pushed back a day. After a song, Ed says the following... Well we were supposed to go home today, but I guess we are here. They better win. 

    If I have built a career, have enough money to live off, and am getting older, maybe my priorities have change a little. Maybe Ed just isn't into anymore and wants to surf, enjoy his family, not have any schedules. These are still just guys, who play and write music, and not have a regular day job. Just guys...

    If anything I say get the side projects going, and when it happens it happens. If Lightning Bolt was the last record, I would fine with that. As long as they still tour.

    Now for that part... Ed said during Fenway this year, that the next time they play will in the studio. I'm guessing that may mean no tour this year.
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 3,010
    igotid88 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Ed said at the last concert, Boston, the next time we will play together will be in the studio, or something like that. So you would have to assume he is planning on it, just when is the question.
    They were in the studio recently when they sent that holiday video
    Wait...what holiday video?
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 2,605
    Vedd Hedd said:
    igotid88 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Ed said at the last concert, Boston, the next time we will play together will be in the studio, or something like that. So you would have to assume he is planning on it, just when is the question.
    They were in the studio recently when they sent that holiday video
    Wait...what holiday video?
    There was a 2017 vid. I don't remember one this year
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  • PJWGIIIPJWGIII Chicago, ILPosts: 692
    There is a lot of upside and downside to these quotes, and I think we shouldn’t get too carried away either way.

    If we want to put our anger into anything, it can be the 10C’s total lack of communication with seemingly the band and definitely it’s members.

    If we can focus on solving those problems first, fulfilled excitement will be on the way before we know it.
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  • JT167846JT167846 Posts: 137
    kaw753 said:
    PJNB said:
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.
    The only logical solution is to replace him with Gary Cherone. 
    I saw the first ever VH gig with Gary Cherone and it was awesome! Loved it. I like a couple of tunes from VH3 just between us-One I Want kicks arse.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 15,757
    NewJPage said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    igotid88 said:
    DEGBTI said:
    Ed said at the last concert, Boston, the next time we will play together will be in the studio, or something like that. So you would have to assume he is planning on it, just when is the question.
    They were in the studio recently when they sent that holiday video
    Wait...what holiday video?
    There was a 2017 vid. I don't remember one this year
    Oh yea. For some reason I thought there was one this past holiday season. Time flew by
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  • RS65573RS65573 Posts: 921
    JT167846 said:
    kaw753 said:
    PJNB said:
    A couple vaguely worded statements and we've deducted that EV doesn't want to be part of the band.  Oh man, this place never fails to disappoint on the doom & gloom factor.
    It is painful to read isn't it.
    The only logical solution is to replace him with Gary Cherone. 
    I saw the first ever VH gig with Gary Cherone and it was awesome! Loved it. I like a couple of tunes from VH3 just between us-One I Want kicks arse.
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  • faithful2youfaithful2you Madison, WIPosts: 683
    I find it interesting (and thankful) that it's Jeff and Stone pushing to get into the studio.   I've had a feeling that those two were the uninterested two when it came to PJ.   I think Ed is at a point in his family life that it's more about his kids than anything else which is completely natural and he should be.   Really the only thing that bugs me about this article is that Can't Deny Me was the star tack out of everything they have done so far.....
    Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 13,269
    I find it interesting (and thankful) that it's Jeff and Stone pushing to get into the studio.   I've had a feeling that those two were the uninterested two when it came to PJ.   I think Ed is at a point in his family life that it's more about his kids than anything else which is completely natural and he should be.   Really the only thing that bugs me about this article is that Can't Deny Me was the star tack out of everything they have done so far.....
    I wouldn't think too much of the star track comment.  Practically every artist says those generic kinda things about everything they release.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 10,601
    edited January 23

    “Can’t Deny Me,” as a standalone single to coincide with their tour. “Yeah, that was fun,” Gossard says. “I’m glad we got to do that. That was a little bit of a star from one of the ones that we had recorded, so we’re hoping to get some more of that going.”

    If this is true, maybe we don't want a new album  :o 


    Am I reading this right? Does it really mean that was basically the best track coming out from the ones already recorded? Well.. I don't know what to think about it. Or maybe yes, I know, but wouldn't be safe for this forum. Man...
    That’s how I read it. Can’t Deny Me is the best track
    I read it as it had the most single-pop, as in being a track they could release to the radio etc out of the bunch. 

    So it was a "star" in that context. An All or None, Parting Ways or Present Tense might be in the bunch, but it wouldn't be a star. And I bet Stone didn't see them as being songs to release by themselves at the time either. 

    And, they released songs like The Fixer and Who You Are which must have been seen as "stars" back then. And in the same bunch were Force of Nature, Unthought Known, Sometimes etc. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 11,294
    I find it interesting (and thankful) that it's Jeff and Stone pushing to get into the studio.   I've had a feeling that those two were the uninterested two when it came to PJ.   I think Ed is at a point in his family life that it's more about his kids than anything else which is completely natural and he should be.   Really the only thing that bugs me about this article is that Can't Deny Me was the star tack out of everything they have done so far.....
    I'd assume those kids would go to school...leaving a solid 8 hours a day to record ;)
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, ILPosts: 4,566
    Hopefully the tentative tour will provide motivation.
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  • RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, ILPosts: 2,906
    They haven't released an album in 5+ years, and everyone is treating Jeff and Stone like heroes because they wanted to get in the studio in late 2018, early 2019. :lol:
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,200
    2 active threads on the elusive (but apparently forthcoming! lol) album have been closed this morning. Hopefully one can stay open where it can be discussed.
    I'm betting Jeff and Stone have been wanting to record for a while. Not just late 2018 as you claim. Jeff ended up putting out a solo record. He does that when he accumulates a lot of ideas and demos and songs that aren't accepted by the PJ team. So Jeff was clearly writing and getting ideas out there, only to have them rejected, I guess. So I wouldn't belittle Jeff's efforts or statements about wanting to record. I know for me it is obvious who the bottleneck is in the band.
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  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,037
    jeffbr said:
    2 active threads on the elusive (but apparently forthcoming! lol) album have been closed this morning. Hopefully one can stay open where it can be discussed.
    I'm betting Jeff and Stone have been wanting to record for a while. Not just late 2018 as you claim. Jeff ended up putting out a solo record. He does that when he accumulates a lot of ideas and demos and songs that aren't accepted by the PJ team. So Jeff was clearly writing and getting ideas out there, only to have them rejected, I guess. So I wouldn't belittle Jeff's efforts or statements about wanting to record. I know for me it is obvious who the bottleneck is in the band.
    Yeah it's been obvious..boom has to go!  =) ;)
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