Obamacare ACA (Affordable Care Act)

Options
17891113

Comments

  • rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    rgambs said:
    If I am wrong then I'll admit it but you've got to show me where.
    show you where?  Go to healthcare.gov and sign up for a plan.  If your income allows you get a subsidy.  It's all still there man.
    Yes they are there now but there was an executive order signed by Trump where this won't be the case.  They are going to go away.  

    The Insurance companies are raking in money by raising premiums each year because they know that subsidies are going away too.

    It's criminal.
    yeah that didn't work....subsidies aren't going anywhere 
    I hope that is right and Trump's EO gets overturned and the premiums actually go down.

    It's ridiculous how much I pay...
    I actually don't think it's that crazy ridiculous to spend a 10th of your income on healthcare, it's just that for a 10th of your income you should actually get healthcare and not just the medical disaster insurance that we actually have.
    34% of average income on housing 
    18% on transportation



    Why is 10-15% of your income for healthcare & insruance so unreasonable?  

    This person in the chart only spends $2500 a year on healthcare?  That must be out of pocket expenses.  Whom actually pays their premium though?

    This chart must be for someone who lives in the midwest because you aren't surviving here in NY on that salary...
    You dont really think everyone in NY makes more than 50,000$ a year do you?
    Of course not.  If they make 50G they aren't paying that much on a car and that cheap on housing though.  They are most likely opting out for the health insurance too.

    It's also very impressive that they put away the recommended 10% of their income away for retirement.

    Again this is for someone in the midwest not NY...

    You don't think that all New Yorkers actually live like this chart, do you?  

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    rgambs said:
    If I am wrong then I'll admit it but you've got to show me where.
    show you where?  Go to healthcare.gov and sign up for a plan.  If your income allows you get a subsidy.  It's all still there man.
    Yes they are there now but there was an executive order signed by Trump where this won't be the case.  They are going to go away.  

    The Insurance companies are raking in money by raising premiums each year because they know that subsidies are going away too.

    It's criminal.
    yeah that didn't work....subsidies aren't going anywhere 
    I hope that is right and Trump's EO gets overturned and the premiums actually go down.

    It's ridiculous how much I pay...
    I actually don't think it's that crazy ridiculous to spend a 10th of your income on healthcare, it's just that for a 10th of your income you should actually get healthcare and not just the medical disaster insurance that we actually have.
    34% of average income on housing 
    18% on transportation



    Why is 10-15% of your income for healthcare & insruance so unreasonable?  

    This person in the chart only spends $2500 a year on healthcare?  That must be out of pocket expenses.  Whom actually pays their premium though?

    This chart must be for someone who lives in the midwest because you aren't surviving here in NY on that salary...
    You dont really think everyone in NY makes more than 50,000$ a year do you?
    Of course not.  If they make 50G they aren't paying that much on a car and that cheap on housing though.  They are most likely opting out for the health insurance too.

    It's also very impressive that they put away the recommended 10% of their income away for retirement.

    Again this is for someone in the midwest not NY...

    You don't think that all New Yorkers actually live like this chart, do you?  

    No, I don't because it measures averages lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    rgambs said:
    If I am wrong then I'll admit it but you've got to show me where.
    show you where?  Go to healthcare.gov and sign up for a plan.  If your income allows you get a subsidy.  It's all still there man.
    Yes they are there now but there was an executive order signed by Trump where this won't be the case.  They are going to go away.  

    The Insurance companies are raking in money by raising premiums each year because they know that subsidies are going away too.

    It's criminal.
    yeah that didn't work....subsidies aren't going anywhere 
    I hope that is right and Trump's EO gets overturned and the premiums actually go down.

    It's ridiculous how much I pay...
    I actually don't think it's that crazy ridiculous to spend a 10th of your income on healthcare, it's just that for a 10th of your income you should actually get healthcare and not just the medical disaster insurance that we actually have.
    34% of average income on housing 
    18% on transportation



    Why is 10-15% of your income for healthcare & insruance so unreasonable?  

    This person in the chart only spends $2500 a year on healthcare?  That must be out of pocket expenses.  Whom actually pays their premium though?

    This chart must be for someone who lives in the midwest because you aren't surviving here in NY on that salary...
    You dont really think everyone in NY makes more than 50,000$ a year do you?
    Of course not.  If they make 50G they aren't paying that much on a car and that cheap on housing though.  They are most likely opting out for the health insurance too.

    It's also very impressive that they put away the recommended 10% of their income away for retirement.

    Again this is for someone in the midwest not NY...

    You don't think that all New Yorkers actually live like this chart, do you?  

    No, I don't because it measures averages lol
    NY is definitely not average...  One of the pitfalls of living here.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    rgambs said:
    If I am wrong then I'll admit it but you've got to show me where.
    show you where?  Go to healthcare.gov and sign up for a plan.  If your income allows you get a subsidy.  It's all still there man.
    Yes they are there now but there was an executive order signed by Trump where this won't be the case.  They are going to go away.  

    The Insurance companies are raking in money by raising premiums each year because they know that subsidies are going away too.

    It's criminal.
    yeah that didn't work....subsidies aren't going anywhere 
    I hope that is right and Trump's EO gets overturned and the premiums actually go down.

    It's ridiculous how much I pay...
    I actually don't think it's that crazy ridiculous to spend a 10th of your income on healthcare, it's just that for a 10th of your income you should actually get healthcare and not just the medical disaster insurance that we actually have.
    34% of average income on housing 
    18% on transportation



    Why is 10-15% of your income for healthcare & insruance so unreasonable?  

    This person in the chart only spends $2500 a year on healthcare?  That must be out of pocket expenses.  Whom actually pays their premium though?

    This chart must be for someone who lives in the midwest because you aren't surviving here in NY on that salary...
    You dont really think everyone in NY makes more than 50,000$ a year do you?
    Of course not.  If they make 50G they aren't paying that much on a car and that cheap on housing though.  They are most likely opting out for the health insurance too.

    It's also very impressive that they put away the recommended 10% of their income away for retirement.

    Again this is for someone in the midwest not NY...

    You don't think that all New Yorkers actually live like this chart, do you?  

    No, I don't because it measures averages lol
    NY is definitely not average...  One of the pitfalls of living here.
    Eh, I'm sure there are as many people in NY that match that chart as people that don't.

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    rgambs said:
    If I am wrong then I'll admit it but you've got to show me where.
    show you where?  Go to healthcare.gov and sign up for a plan.  If your income allows you get a subsidy.  It's all still there man.
    Yes they are there now but there was an executive order signed by Trump where this won't be the case.  They are going to go away.  

    The Insurance companies are raking in money by raising premiums each year because they know that subsidies are going away too.

    It's criminal.
    yeah that didn't work....subsidies aren't going anywhere 
    I hope that is right and Trump's EO gets overturned and the premiums actually go down.

    It's ridiculous how much I pay...
    I actually don't think it's that crazy ridiculous to spend a 10th of your income on healthcare, it's just that for a 10th of your income you should actually get healthcare and not just the medical disaster insurance that we actually have.
    34% of average income on housing 
    18% on transportation



    Why is 10-15% of your income for healthcare & insruance so unreasonable?  

    This person in the chart only spends $2500 a year on healthcare?  That must be out of pocket expenses.  Whom actually pays their premium though?

    This chart must be for someone who lives in the midwest because you aren't surviving here in NY on that salary...
    You dont really think everyone in NY makes more than 50,000$ a year do you?
    Of course not.  If they make 50G they aren't paying that much on a car and that cheap on housing though.  They are most likely opting out for the health insurance too.

    It's also very impressive that they put away the recommended 10% of their income away for retirement.

    Again this is for someone in the midwest not NY...

    You don't think that all New Yorkers actually live like this chart, do you?  

    No, I don't because it measures averages lol
    NY is definitely not average...  One of the pitfalls of living here.
    Eh, I'm sure there are as many people in NY that match that chart as people that don't.

    I was curious so it says "avg long island salary makes $54,000 a year".  Then another says average weekly salary is $1200 a week.  These charts are all over the place...

    Some people I know are "house poor".  We don't see them out much.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Hope it was worth it protest voters!

    Supreme Court will take up challenge to Obamacare's individual mandate
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-will-take-challenge-obamacare-s-individual-mandate-n1146901?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

    something something forest trees
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,800
    CM189191 said:
    Hope it was worth it protest voters!

    Supreme Court will take up challenge to Obamacare's individual mandate
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-will-take-challenge-obamacare-s-individual-mandate-n1146901?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

    something something forest trees

    I've been saying to independents who refuse to vote Bernie if he is the nominee, that ACA is gone and preexisting conditions are back if trump wins.

    They mostly seem to be well off and dont care about ACA. But you get sick, cant work, expensive procedures denied,go bankrupt, then what?

    It unbelievable the Court would hear this case. I guess they have to since the appellate ruled against its earlier decision?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    edited June 2020
    Any thoughts regarding Trumpet’s midnight effort to overturn Obamacare?
     In the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, the Trump administration on Thursday urged the Supreme Court to overturn the Affordable Care Act. The late-night court filing came on the same day the government reported that close to half a million people who lost their health insurance amid the economic shutdown have gotten coverage through HealthCare.gov.
    Post edited by stuckinline on
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Any thoughts regarding Trumpet’s midnight effort to overturn Obamacare?
     In the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, the Trump administration on Thursday urged the Supreme Court to overturn the Affordable Care Act. The late-night court filing came on the same day the government reported that close to half a million people who lost their health insurance amid the economic shutdown have gotten coverage through HealthCare.gov.
    I have no idea what he is trying to accomplish there.  What is amazing to me is the number of people that vote for tRump that rely heavily on the ACA and yet they still vote for tRump and probably support the overturning of "Obamacare" because they are too stupid to realize that it is the ACA.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,393
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    At that rate how can anyone afford socks?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    At that rate how can anyone afford socks?
    THOSE are for retirement when I am decrepit...
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    Why gold plan?  

    Regardless...20% has been the norm most years
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    Why gold plan?  

    Regardless...20% has been the norm most years
    And 20% is ridiculous. At that rate your cost doubles about every 4 years. Middle class can’t afford healthcare anymore.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    edited June 2020
    mace1229 said:
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    Why gold plan?  

    Regardless...20% has been the norm most years
    And 20% is ridiculous. At that rate your cost doubles about every 4 years. Middle class can’t afford healthcare anymore.
    It's been that way since at least 1998 which is when I started paying my own premiums.  You used to be able to change carriers (like car insurance) to get better rates but prior to the ACA you could only do that if you didn't have any pre-existing conditions.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Matts3221
    Matts3221 Posts: 658
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    Why gold plan?  

    Regardless...20% has been the norm most years


    Yeah I have had my own insurance since 1998 and since then ever year no matter the company cost seem to go up between 15-20% , the ACA although not in all cases has had premiums drop over the years for most of the silver / bronze plans ( cannot speak for gold ).

    My friends plan went down 12 dollars this past year via the ACA , regardless this is the issue with insurance not just the ACA , everything is still going thru the insurance companies that need to maximize profits for share holders year over year while at the same time have to pay so many people who are just pushing paper around.

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    Why gold plan?  

    Regardless...20% has been the norm most years
    Gold Plan fit my needs best.

    The plan started off at around $800 5 years ago.

    Somewhere on here I have my yearly increases.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    My ACA premiums went up $7/month this year.  

    Oh...and Temple-n-groove....the subsidies are STILL there
    My premiums went up almost 20% this upcoming year...

    I will be at almost $1200 a month for a single person, gold plan in NY...
    Why gold plan?  

    Regardless...20% has been the norm most years
    Gold Plan fit my needs best.

    The plan started off at around $800 5 years ago.

    Somewhere on here I have my yearly increases.
    Just curious....I'm bronze and pay $1,400/month for four of us
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2