Tomorrows the 10th

HesCalledDyer said:

I keep seeing "clarification of membership levels" as one of the hopes/prospects for this newsletter. I have a good hunch the only thing will be a mention that the single is discontinued. There is nothing else.  Analog is everything it was before just now without the single.  Nothing is going to replace it. Everything else about digital and analog levels stays the same.

They've already clarified it right on the website.  https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels shows the differences now.  The only thing that changed is they aren't producing an annual single.  Analog gets the shirt (or as they call it limited edition membership item coupon code), a Bootleg coupon and printed copy of the Deep magazine.  

PJ_Soul said:

  Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe. 

Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth it anymore, particularly as I haven't been able to make a show in 5 years.  My renewal is November so I have a lot of time to think about it.  

bone said:

PJ_Soul said:

  Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe. 

Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth it anymore, particularly as I haven't been able to make a show in 5 years.  My renewal is November so I have a lot of time to think about it.  

I hardly use the bootleg codes cause I like buying the CDs on the shows I go to. So it’s $20 for a shirt....hmmmmm. That’s actually not a bad value if they put effort in. But I’d say only 2 years had decent member gifts. Will be a tough choice.

cincybearcat said:

bone said:

PJ_Soul said:

  Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe. 

Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth it anymore, particularly as I haven't been able to make a show in 5 years.  My renewal is November so I have a lot of time to think about it.  

I hardly use the bootleg codes cause I like buying the CDs on the shows I go to. So it’s $20 for a shirt....hmmmmm. That’s actually not a bad value if they put effort in. But I’d say only 2 years had decent member gifts. Will be a tough choice.

And they don't let you share the codes, right? .... In case it comes up again for you, may I suggest that you find out which boot someone else would like, download it, and share it with them?

My question is now: Do international members still have to pay $ 50 instead of $ 40, even though we will not get any holiday singles anymore? 

Release the hounds!

Spiritual_Chaos said:

IT'S BEEN THE 10th FOR FIVE MINUTES IN SWEDEN NOW - SO LETS GO!

Nope. Not until you update us on the Agnes thread. Until then, the 10th will be delayed.

willbarclay said:

on2legs said:

Release the hounds!

I love a vintage Simpson’s reference

PJ_Soul said:

bone said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I keep seeing "clarification of membership levels" as one of the hopes/prospects for this newsletter. I have a good hunch the only thing will be a mention that the single is discontinued. There is nothing else.  Analog is everything it was before just now without the single.  Nothing is going to replace it. Everything else about digital and analog levels stays the same.

They've already clarified it right on the website.  https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels shows the differences now.  The only thing that changed is they aren't producing an annual single.  Analog gets the shirt (or as they call it limited edition membership item coupon code), a Bootleg coupon and printed copy of the Deep magazine.  

Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe.

I would be shocked if they didn't turn a good profit on that $40, and if not, someone needs to lose their jobs. You can get shirts mass produced at that quality for really a few bucks. The retail price of 45's are $10 so it has to cost them much less to produce that. I'm assuming it doesn't cost them anything to give out the digital code. And if they spend more than a few bucks on shipping for any of that then they are doing it wrong.
Half of that extra $20 for analog should be straight profit. If they aren't netting $25-30 off my $40 fee, then someone over there has no clue how to handle money.
Up until the early 2000s there was only "analog" and it was only $10. Now you didn't get a shirt or the code, but we got everything else for $10. I can't see how charging $40 and throwing in a low quality shirt isn't making a lot of money.