Tomorrows the 10th

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  • bone
    bone Posts: 499
    I keep seeing "clarification of membership levels" as one of the hopes/prospects for this newsletter. I have a good hunch the only thing will be a mention that the single is discontinued. There is nothing else.  Analog is everything it was before just now without the single.  Nothing is going to replace it. Everything else about digital and analog levels stays the same.
    They've already clarified it right on the website.  https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels shows the differences now.  The only thing that changed is they aren't producing an annual single.  Analog gets the shirt (or as they call it limited edition membership item coupon code), a Bootleg coupon and printed copy of the Deep magazine.  
    1993-08-12 - Edmonton, AB, Convention Centre
    2003-05-30 - Vancouver, BC, General Motors Place
    2005-09-04 - Calgary, AB, Pengrowth Saddledome
    2005-09-05 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place
    2009-08-08 - Calgary, AB, Canada Olympic Park
    2009-09-21 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
    2009-09-22 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    edited January 2019
    bone said:
    I keep seeing "clarification of membership levels" as one of the hopes/prospects for this newsletter. I have a good hunch the only thing will be a mention that the single is discontinued. There is nothing else.  Analog is everything it was before just now without the single.  Nothing is going to replace it. Everything else about digital and analog levels stays the same.
    They've already clarified it right on the website.  https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels shows the differences now.  The only thing that changed is they aren't producing an annual single.  Analog gets the shirt (or as they call it limited edition membership item coupon code), a Bootleg coupon and printed copy of the Deep magazine.  
    Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? ;) I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • bone
    bone Posts: 499
    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
      Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? ;) I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe. 
    Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth it anymore, particularly as I haven't been able to make a show in 5 years.  My renewal is November so I have a lot of time to think about it.  
    1993-08-12 - Edmonton, AB, Convention Centre
    2003-05-30 - Vancouver, BC, General Motors Place
    2005-09-04 - Calgary, AB, Pengrowth Saddledome
    2005-09-05 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place
    2009-08-08 - Calgary, AB, Canada Olympic Park
    2009-09-21 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
    2009-09-22 - Seattle, WA, Key Arena
    2011-09-23 - Edmonton, AB, Rexall Place
    2013-11-30 - Spokane, WA, Spokane Arena
  • IT'S BEEN THE 10th FOR FIVE MINUTES IN SWEDEN NOW - SO LETS GO!
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    bone said:
    PJ_Soul said:
      Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? ;) I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe. 
    Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth it anymore, particularly as I haven't been able to make a show in 5 years.  My renewal is November so I have a lot of time to think about it.  
    I hardly use the bootleg codes cause I like buying the CDs on the shows I go to. So it’s $20 for a shirt....hmmmmm. That’s actually not a bad value if they put effort in. But I’d say only 2 years had decent member gifts. Will be a tough choice.
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,558
    edited January 2019
    Just passed 10am here in Australia on the 10th ;)
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    bone said:
    PJ_Soul said:
      Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? ;) I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe. 
    Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth it anymore, particularly as I haven't been able to make a show in 5 years.  My renewal is November so I have a lot of time to think about it.  
    I hardly use the bootleg codes cause I like buying the CDs on the shows I go to. So it’s $20 for a shirt....hmmmmm. That’s actually not a bad value if they put effort in. But I’d say only 2 years had decent member gifts. Will be a tough choice.
    And they don't let you share the codes, right? .... In case it comes up again for you, may I suggest that you find out which boot someone else would like, download it, and share it with them? ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    So shirt, magazine and bootleg coupon for $40 at the Analog level. Plus tickets, website, PJ radio access and contest eligibility, etc etc.  They need to send out an official word on this for clarification. Would prefer not to assume anything. 
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  • kce8
    kce8 Posts: 1,636

    My question is now: Do international members still have to pay $ 50 instead of $ 40, even though we will not get any holiday singles anymore? 
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    I don't expect any update of much significance. 
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,959
    Release the hounds!
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    on2legs said:
    Release the hounds!
    Arf arf!! Haha!!
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,364
    IT'S BEEN THE 10th FOR FIVE MINUTES IN SWEDEN NOW - SO LETS GO!
    Nope. Not until you update us on the Agnes thread. Until then, the 10th will be delayed.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    on2legs said:
    Release the hounds!

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,959
    on2legs said:
    Release the hounds!

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    I love a vintage Simpson’s reference =)
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890

  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298

    @on2legs

    I just have 2 questions ...

    How much, and give it to me


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  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    PJNB said:

    This. They don't announce tours or albums in the newsletter. They announce they are selling shit.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    bone said:
    I keep seeing "clarification of membership levels" as one of the hopes/prospects for this newsletter. I have a good hunch the only thing will be a mention that the single is discontinued. There is nothing else.  Analog is everything it was before just now without the single.  Nothing is going to replace it. Everything else about digital and analog levels stays the same.
    They've already clarified it right on the website.  https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels shows the differences now.  The only thing that changed is they aren't producing an annual single.  Analog gets the shirt (or as they call it limited edition membership item coupon code), a Bootleg coupon and printed copy of the Deep magazine.  
    Huh. Well then... everyone loves paying the same amount and getting less, right? ;) I guess they figure inflation takes care of this. And I guess we have to admit it does... considering their shipping costs. If they aren't replacing the single with anything, I'm actually inclined to think they really are doing this because they were losing money on the analog memberships, or just breaking even maybe.
    I would be shocked if they didn't turn a good profit on that $40, and if not, someone needs to lose their jobs. You can get shirts mass produced at that quality for really a few bucks. The retail price of 45's are $10 so it has to cost them much less to produce that. I'm assuming it doesn't cost them anything to give out the digital code. And if they spend more than a few bucks on shipping for any of that then they are doing it wrong.
    Half of that extra $20 for analog should be straight profit. If they aren't netting $25-30 off my $40 fee, then someone over there has no clue how to handle money.
    Up until the early 2000s there was only "analog" and it was only $10. Now you didn't get a shirt or the code, but we got everything else for $10. I can't see how charging $40 and throwing in a low quality shirt isn't making a lot of money.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,959

    @on2legs

    I just have 2 questions ...

    How much, and give it to me


    Image result for homer selling elephant to ivory dealerImage result for homer selling elephant

    Pure comic genius!
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh