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  • bone
    bone Posts: 499
    edited January 2019
    Jbarker said:

    Because members have various renewal dates, not all aligned on a calendar cycle, this should have been an immediate one time announcement with all info included. it is not professional to release a whisper only to soften the blow when difficult news follows. they should have just waited till they had a full detailed membership package roll-out.



    Like this?

    https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

    Granted, it should have been a part of the email notice as well as the email was a little thin on details.  

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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,952
    My favourite was the old school member ship.  Tickets/Single/Magazine.   When they created Analog I didn't really need the shirt and mp3 code.

    Given that the single is cancelled.   I'm happy with digital (unless they come up with a cool replacement for the vinyl)
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    bone said:
    Jbarker said:

    Because members have various renewal dates, not all aligned on a calendar cycle, this should have been an immediate one time announcement with all info included. it is not professional to release a whisper only to soften the blow when difficult news follows. they should have just waited till they had a full detailed membership package roll-out.



    Like this?

    https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

    Granted, it should have been a part of the email notice as well as the email was a little thin on details.  

    That doesn't necessarily mean anything.  It was an immediate ass covering for anyone that might add a new membership.  They could change the details at any point.  When they announced they were cancelling the single it made sense to not be confusing and keep it listed as a benefit. 

    That being said, I would not be shocked to see almost nothing added or changed for a while.  
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )
    bone said:
    Jbarker said:

    Because members have various renewal dates, not all aligned on a calendar cycle, this should have been an immediate one time announcement with all info included. it is not professional to release a whisper only to soften the blow when difficult news follows. they should have just waited till they had a full detailed membership package roll-out.



    Like this?

    https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

    Granted, it should have been a part of the email notice as well as the email was a little thin on details.  

    Yeah, that's weak on their part. Just be transparent, leave nothing to assumption or guessing. If the only thing that's changing is the 45 is gone, then $40 is too much IMO for the remaining items.
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  • RobbyD462
    RobbyD462 Victoria BC Posts: 4,812
    edited January 2019
    More info needed from ten club to make a good decision.At this point it doesn’t seem worth staying analog.
    Main reason for being analog in the first place is the 45 hence the classification “analog”.

    Looking forward to a follow up memo that should have came straight away.
    I like the comment previously that we gave PJ an interest free loan for two years and counting.
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  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,324
    RobbyD462 said:
    More info needed from ten club to make a good decision.At this point it doesn’t seem worth staying analog.
    Main reason for being analog in the first place is the 45 hence the classification “analog”.

    Looking forward to a follow up memo that should have came straight away.
    I like the comment previously that we gave PJ an interest free loan for two years and counting.
    Don't hold your breath on follow up. 
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )
    instead of tshirts, they could bring back the socks.  Stone likes the socks.
  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    Keep the vinyl album only
    I liked paying $10 and getting tickets and a 45. I know it's not the '90s anymore, but simpler times.

    I don't care about DEEP, I don't use the download codes because I am analog, right? And I have plenty of shirts.

    The single was the only reason I paid extra for analog. I will go digital to keep my seniority for tickets.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,777
    Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )
    Get rid of it all and make all memberships $10.  We're all grown up now and have enough stuff that gets looked at a few time and then stuck on a shelf.  And for those who still feel they need more stuff, there's always the Pearl Jam shop.
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  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    edited January 2019
    My question is: why even keep an analog option now? Analog means(meant) that you get a physical vinyl copy of the single instead of just digital. So it makes absolutely no sense now (and absolutely not worth it too).
    My renewal was in december, so I have plenty of time to see what happens (if anything happens, really), but as things are now, I'm not even going to renew at digital level. I hope the two singles they owe us show up before 2025.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,777
    Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )
    Jammalambo said:
    My question is: why even keep an analog option now? Analog means(meant) that you get a physical vinyl copy of the single instead of just digital. So it makes absolutely no sense now (and absolutely not worth it too).
    My renewal was in december, so I have plenty of time to see what happens (if anything happens, really), but as things are now, I'm not even going to renew at digital level. I hope the two singles they owe us show up before 2025.
    Maybe they'll send analog members Kodak snapshots of the band. 

    But seriously, I agree, an Analog membership as it stands now is meaningless. 

    And the no-show singles?  Somebody fell asleep at the wheel here.
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  • Popmartijn
    Popmartijn Posts: 383
    Keep the vinyl album and Deep magazine
    PJ_Soul said:
    "Vinyl album"? Do you mean the single? Or are you maybe talking about the Vault?? If they increased the analog subscription amount to, say, $100 USD (for international - say $75 USD for Americans), took away the membership t-shirt or whatever and deep mag (they already took away the vinyl single), and made the annual Vault release the one and only membership item (including shipping of course), plus the other existing benefits we all already get with the analog membership, I'd pay for that.... assuming the quality of the Vault was at least maintained, and hopefully improved. And that they actually sent it out reliably, every year, and put actual care into it.
    Though in a way it's no concern for me, as I'll almost certainly go to digital with the single gone, I do hope that they don't jack up the fee for the Analog membership (and make it even more ridiculous for those not in the US) and include the Vault packages. I was never interested in a physical copy of those, though I sometimes downloaded the MP3 version with my coupon. So including that package will make it even less interesting to me.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )
    they could never reduce fees.  once a revenue stream like that is in place, any reduction will hurt the bottom line.
  • PSUS2H
    PSUS2H USA Posts: 2,391
    Keep the vinyl album and Deep magazine
    vaggar99 said:
    they could never reduce fees.  once a revenue stream like that is in place, any reduction will hurt the bottom line.
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  • my_wave
    my_wave clearwater, FL Posts: 358
    Keep the vinyl album only
    vaggar99 said:
    they could never reduce fees.  once a revenue stream like that is in place, any reduction will hurt the bottom line.
    maybe this this is why green disease has only been played 10 times in the last 10 years...

    where they have more,...
    still they take more

    we can scream,.. out our doors
    behind the wall a fat man snores

    well i guess
    there's nothing wrong with what you say
    but don't sell me,
    'there can't be better ways'

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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    my_wave said:
    vaggar99 said:
    they could never reduce fees.  once a revenue stream like that is in place, any reduction will hurt the bottom line.
    maybe this this is why green disease has only been played 10 times in the last 10 years...

    where they have more,...
    still they take more

    we can scream,.. out our doors
    behind the wall a fat man snores

    well i guess
    there's nothing wrong with what you say
    but don't sell me,
    'there can't be better ways'

    G-R-E-E-D..... G-R-E-E-D
    Just keep in mind that they aren't making very much in album sales these days! ;-)
  • Banjo
    Banjo Posts: 272
    Keep the vinyl album and the t-shirt
    Weston1283 said:
    Keep GA tickets and I’m happy.  GA tix are worth the $40 a year.  
    But can't you get GA tickets with the $20 Digital membership?
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Banjo said:
    Weston1283 said:
    Keep GA tickets and I’m happy.  GA tix are worth the $40 a year.  
    But can't you get GA tickets with the $20 Digital membership?
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,952
    I agree with most of the comments.   Analog loses it's teeth without the single.   Previously I don't think the 10c made money on the extra $20/$30 they charged for analog.  Tshirt and Single/Newsletter plus the costs for two separate mailings probably eats up that money.    The gravy for the 10c is probably on the first $20 (digital or analog) not the additional $20/$30.  I suppose that changes without the single.

    I'll go to digital as I don't want to lose my seniority.   If I were a newer member I might be tempted to only renew when tour rumours spark up.  Similar to what I do with other fan clubs when I want access to their fan club presales.  Especially since anyone can go for GA, and giant stadium pits have decent odds at getting GA.


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