Analog Subscriptions

huntersthompson

Options---maybe my options, but options nonetheless.  This poll presumes that we might have the option to keep a portion of the analog subscription.

NewJPage

Again? 

kce8

Keep it all is missing! lol

PJ_Soul

"Vinyl album"? Do you mean the single? Or are you maybe talking about the Vault?? If they increased the analog subscription amount to, say, $100 USD (for international - say $75 USD for Americans), took away the membership t-shirt or whatever and deep mag (they already took away the vinyl single), and made the annual Vault release the one and only membership item (including shipping of course), plus the other existing benefits we all already get with the analog membership, I'd pay for that.... assuming the quality of the Vault was at least maintained, and hopefully improved. And that they actually sent it out reliably, every year, and put actual care into it.

huntersthompson

Keep the vinyl album only

NewJPage said:

Again? 

I looked and didn't see that a poll had been done on this--even though this one is a bit tongue in cheek

kce8 said:

Keep it all is missing! lol

Presumed that they had to dump something....  

PJ_Soul said:

"Vinyl album"? Do you mean the single? Or are you maybe talking about the Vault?? If they increased the analog subscription amount to, say, $100 USD (for international - say $75 USD for Americans), took away the membership t-shirt or whatever and deep mag (they already took away the vinyl single), and made the annual Vault release the one and only membership item (including shipping of course), plus the other existing benefits we all already get with the analog membership, I'd pay for that.... assuming the quality of the Vault was at least maintained, and hopefully improved. And that they actually sent it out reliably, every year, and put actual care into it.

I actually love this idea...most of us are ponying up for the Vault anyway...I would absolutely pay for that...I agree with you that they would have to at least maintain the quality....

2-feign-reluctance

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I'd like to see a total overhaul TMR style!

PJ_Soul

2-feign-reluctance said:

I'd like to see a total overhaul TMR style!

I don't think anyone is invested enough for that kind of thing TBH. They aren't even getting what they've got going on now done, so them ramping up to anything close to TMR Vault levels seems a complete impossibility. Also, they don't have enough material for that kind of thing. TMR Vault covers many different artists, plus Jack White, plus Jack White's 3 bands to play with. I don't know if 10C could do the same just with PJ + their side projects.

mace1229

The single was the only reason to be analog. Without the single this is purely an advance ticket membership. 
Although I do like the idea of charging $75 and getting the vault too. But just seems like every year more things fall through, so just strip it down to basic membership for tickets still might be the best option (but then they'd have to actually play shows).

Tim Simmons

Keep the vinyl album only

Yeah, I really only want the vinyl. The mag is nice, but other than that Shuss issue, its a read once and put away type thing. 

I'm pushing for analog to be $75-$100 and include the vault. Or if they go the quarterly TMR route , just start pressing shows that have bootlegs available (from 2000 on) and have the Vault separate like it is now. But that will probably be $400 a year or something. 

drakeheuer14

mace1229 said:

The single was the only reason to be analog. Without the single this is purely an advance ticket membership. 
Although I do like the idea of charging $75 and getting the vault too. But just seems like every year more things fall through, so just strip it down to basic membership for tickets still might be the best option (but then they'd have to actually play shows).

Even if it wasn’t part of the fan club/ticket access, if they did adopt a TMR style system even if its just for vaults, I’d like that. But subscriptions are all about the perks... not sure they can handle 4 vaults a year or whatever the amoun

matt.watt

My option wouldn't be on the list...

I would recommend:
Digital Only Yearly Single
Digital Only Deep Magazine
Membership Access to T-Shirt or some other tangible club exclusive (I was thinking this could be on an ad-hoc basis, but I realize the trick is making enough of whatever the physical exclusive is, not knowing how many people would redeem for it, and that would probably just cause more problems)

I love Vinyl.  I love physical objects, but I realize that the processes involved in making those physical is probably a huge extra effort, especially for the vinyl.  I'd be alright just keeping these things and having them be digital only if it meant we still got to keep them.

Perhaps there can be some physical thing that can be a club exclusive every year that membership gives you access to, but doesn't have to always be a T-Shirt.  And I don't just mean a discount on something in the store, but something just for the yearly members. Mike McCreedy custom made Guitar Picks, Boom Custom Made Hair Tie, Stone Custom Made Coffee Mug (with pre-stained bottom), Jeff custom made trucker hat, Eddie custom designed corduroy jacket (i kid), etc.  If it changed every year would that bring back some passion in what the club does for the fans that year?

Just spitballing.

Weston1283

Keep GA tickets and I’m happy.  GA tix are worth the $40 a year.  

2-feign-reluctance

Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )

PJ_Soul said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I'd like to see a total overhaul TMR style!

I don't think anyone is invested enough for that kind of thing TBH. They aren't even getting what they've got going on now done, so them ramping up to anything close to TMR Vault levels seems a complete impossibility. Also, they don't have enough material for that kind of thing. TMR Vault covers many different artists, plus Jack White, plus Jack White's 3 bands to play with. I don't know if 10C could do the same just with PJ + their side projects.

My wishful wish! 

HesCalledDyer

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HesCalledDyer

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PJ_Soul said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

I'd like to see a total overhaul TMR style!

I don't think anyone is invested enough for that kind of thing TBH. They aren't even getting what they've got going on now done, so them ramping up to anything close to TMR Vault levels seems a complete impossibility. Also, they don't have enough material for that kind of thing. TMR Vault covers many different artists, plus Jack White, plus Jack White's 3 bands to play with. I don't know if 10C could do the same just with PJ + their side projects.

Yeah, aside from not being able to afford 4 Vaults a year, I really have zero interest in getting  a bunch of Mother Love Bone, Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, Glen Hansard, and artists from Hockeytalker Vaults. No offense to those artists, but again, Pearl Jam fan club. Third Man is a record label, not a fan club for a single artist. Huge difference between their & Ten Club’s operations. 

dimitrispearljam

im ok with what ever..be a part of pj community is the most important..and i like to be here in the forum .from the moment we can talk here,meet people,im good.i made friends for life via this forum share experrience and all..i m happy and greatful for it.
rest are stuff..im cool with shirt and vinyl,deep magazine ,i like them but isnt that important..

Jbarker

dimitrispearljam said:

im ok with what ever..be a part of pj community is the most important..and i like to be here in the forum .from the moment we can talk here,meet people,im good.i made friends for life via this forum share experrience and all..i m happy and greatful for it.
rest are stuff..im cool with shirt and vinyl,deep magazine ,i like them but isnt that important..

PJ_Soul

dimitrispearljam said:

im ok with what ever..be a part of pj community is the most important..and i like to be here in the forum .from the moment we can talk here,meet people,im good.i made friends for life via this forum share experrience and all..i m happy and greatful for it.
rest are stuff..im cool with shirt and vinyl,deep magazine ,i like them but isnt that important..

I am also okay with whatever... though I'm not okay with people being renewed for an analog membership without any update on what in the world they're now even paying for. That this is happening really bothers me, even though I'm not an analog member anymore. It just seems really wrong, and kind of makes me question where 10C's at when it comes to how they treat the paying members/customers.... I hope they have some kind of plan to remedy this or make up for it... Like maybe have a nice surprise up their sleeve.

2-feign-reluctance

Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )

PJ_Soul said:

dimitrispearljam said:

im ok with what ever..be a part of pj community is the most important..and i like to be here in the forum .from the moment we can talk here,meet people,im good.i made friends for life via this forum share experrience and all..i m happy and greatful for it.
rest are stuff..im cool with shirt and vinyl,deep magazine ,i like them but isnt that important..

I am also okay with whatever... though I'm not okay with people being renewed for an analog membership without any update on what in the world they're now even paying for. That this is happening really bothers me, even though I'm not an analog member anymore. It just seems really wrong, and really makes me question where 10C's at when it comes to how they treat the paying members/customers.

Agreed. They need to get on this, as I'm sure analog auto-renewals are happening daily.

100 Pacer

Updated my credit card info for analog renewal next month.

I fear change. 

Jbarker

Because members have various renewal dates, not all aligned on a calendar cycle, this should have been an immediate one time announcement with all info included. it is not professional to release a whisper only to soften the blow when difficult news follows. they should have just waited till they had a full detailed membership package roll-out.

bone

Jbarker said:

Because members have various renewal dates, not all aligned on a calendar cycle, this should have been an immediate one time announcement with all info included. it is not professional to release a whisper only to soften the blow when difficult news follows. they should have just waited till they had a full detailed membership package roll-out.

Like this?

https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

Granted, it should have been a part of the email notice as well as the email was a little thin on details.  

Zod

My favourite was the old school member ship.  Tickets/Single/Magazine.   When they created Analog I didn't really need the shirt and mp3 code.

Given that the single is cancelled.   I'm happy with digital (unless they come up with a cool replacement for the vinyl)

PB11041

bone said:

Jbarker said:

Because members have various renewal dates, not all aligned on a calendar cycle, this should have been an immediate one time announcement with all info included. it is not professional to release a whisper only to soften the blow when difficult news follows. they should have just waited till they had a full detailed membership package roll-out.

Like this?

https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

Granted, it should have been a part of the email notice as well as the email was a little thin on details.  

That doesn't necessarily mean anything.  It was an immediate ass covering for anyone that might add a new membership.  They could change the details at any point.  When they announced they were cancelling the single it made sense to not be confusing and keep it listed as a benefit. 

That being said, I would not be shocked to see almost nothing added or changed for a while.  

2-feign-reluctance

Get rid of it all-(Santos you are not allowed to vote )

bone said:

Jbarker said:

Because members have various renewal dates, not all aligned on a calendar cycle, this should have been an immediate one time announcement with all info included. it is not professional to release a whisper only to soften the blow when difficult news follows. they should have just waited till they had a full detailed membership package roll-out.

Like this?

https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205285910-Membership-Levels

Granted, it should have been a part of the email notice as well as the email was a little thin on details.  

Yeah, that's weak on their part. Just be transparent, leave nothing to assumption or guessing. If the only thing that's changing is the 45 is gone, then $40 is too much IMO for the remaining items.

RobbyD462

More info needed from ten club to make a good decision.At this point it doesn’t seem worth staying analog.
Main reason for being analog in the first place is the 45 hence the classification “analog”.

Looking forward to a follow up memo that should have came straight away.
I like the comment previously that we gave PJ an interest free loan for two years and counting.

NewJPage

RobbyD462 said:

More info needed from ten club to make a good decision.At this point it doesn’t seem worth staying analog.
Main reason for being analog in the first place is the 45 hence the classification “analog”.

Looking forward to a follow up memo that should have came straight away.
I like the comment previously that we gave PJ an interest free loan for two years and counting.

Don't hold your breath on follow up. 

vaggar99

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instead of tshirts, they could bring back the socks.  Stone likes the socks.

disilluzion

Keep the vinyl album only

I liked paying $10 and getting tickets and a 45. I know it's not the '90s anymore, but simpler times.

I don't care about DEEP, I don't use the download codes because I am analog, right? And I have plenty of shirts.

The single was the only reason I paid extra for analog. I will go digital to keep my seniority for tickets.

brianlux

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Get rid of it all and make all memberships $10.  We're all grown up now and have enough stuff that gets looked at a few time and then stuck on a shelf.  And for those who still feel they need more stuff, there's always the Pearl Jam shop.

Jammalambo

My question is: why even keep an analog option now? Analog means(meant) that you get a physical vinyl copy of the single instead of just digital. So it makes absolutely no sense now (and absolutely not worth it too).

My renewal was in december, so I have plenty of time to see what happens (if anything happens, really), but as things are now, I'm not even going to renew at digital level. I hope the two singles they owe us show up before 2025.