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            and their QB is slaying coeds like F’me used to do, back in the day.If I had known then what I know now...
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            That guy could pass my career totals in a week if he wanted. Life is his oyster....The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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            Figure 10 per day....he could be like Wilt in his primeThe love he receives is the love that is saved0
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            Wow.
 Bama is awesome but Clemson pushed them around.
 Stunning.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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 8 consecutive New Year's Bowl losses by an average margin of defeat of 21 pts.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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            Fuck. effectively shut down from the end of the first. SAHMOKED!!!!!!
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 Not saying they did not deserve it since they were undefeated; but Bama, Oklahoma, and as much as it pains me to say it, Ohio State, would have all smoked Notre Dame as well. I'd take Georgia and Washington over them too.HesCalledDyer said:
 8 consecutive New Year's Bowl losses by an average margin of defeat of 21 pts.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 But once again, this is why there needs to be at least an 8 team playoff....got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...0
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 Clemson and Alabama are the top tier teams in the NCAAF.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 Then there is everyone else.0
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 I do not disagree with this at all.tempo_n_groove said:
 Clemson and Alabama are the top tier teams in the NCAAF.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 Then there is everyone else.
 "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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 Ohio State lost to PURDUE by more than Notre Dame did to Clemson. It was however by fewer points than Bama lost to Clemson.pjsteelerfan said:
 Not saying they did not deserve it since they were undefeated; but Bama, Oklahoma, and as much as it pains me to say it, Ohio State, would have all smoked Notre Dame as well. I'd take Georgia and Washington over them too.HesCalledDyer said:
 8 consecutive New Year's Bowl losses by an average margin of defeat of 21 pts.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 But once again, this is why there needs to be at least an 8 team playoff.
 UGA proved their worth by bashing ND during their ass kicking by Clemson, then turning around and suffering an almost equal bait down by a FAR lesser team.
 Washington? That's the first time I heard that crazy argument .
 We do however agree on an 8 team playoff, so we have that in common."A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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 Notre Dame had a few duds on their schedule as well. That Pitt win was impressive, just saying. How quickly you guys forget those, If you want to play that game. And again, I am not saying you did not deserve to be in it. But ND was not clearly better than multiple teams and could EASILY lose to any of the top 10 teams, if not top 25 on any given weekend.darwinstheory said:
 Ohio State lost to PURDUE by more than Notre Dame did to Clemson. It was however by fewer points than Bama lost to Clemson.pjsteelerfan said:
 Not saying they did not deserve it since they were undefeated; but Bama, Oklahoma, and as much as it pains me to say it, Ohio State, would have all smoked Notre Dame as well. I'd take Georgia and Washington over them too.HesCalledDyer said:
 8 consecutive New Year's Bowl losses by an average margin of defeat of 21 pts.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 But once again, this is why there needs to be at least an 8 team playoff.
 UGA proved their worth by bashing ND during their ass kicking by Clemson, then turning around and suffering an almost equal bait down by a FAR lesser team.
 Washington? That's the first time I heard that crazy argument .
 We do however agree on an 8 team playoff, so we have that in common.
 You can't judge teams on meaningless exhibition games, which is what every single bowl game outside of the playoffs is. They are nothing more than glorified exhibitions.
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            Bama had a chance. They were making 10-12 play runs every time, then just get snuffed inside the 10. If they finished the drives it would have been close.
 But I was glad to see Clemson take this win with such an impact like that, it was awesome. And Bama will always be the bigger evil in college football.
 You're right, Clemson wasn't important 5 years ago. But Swinney has done amazing things with this team. Some mini documentaries about him are really good to watch. He took a losing team and within about 2 years were ranked, and a year or two after that was winning championships. He was appointed interim head coach 10 years ago because even as the receiver coach he had personally recruited half the team. I think before he is done he will prove to have built a better dynasty that Saban. That sotry right there makes me like them even more. I don't really have a choice though, since my wife was born and raised in Clemson, and her whole family still lives there.
 The next 2 championships are theirs with TL as QB.
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 I enjoy the sarcastic undertones here. Please be aware, I most certainly did not forget, nor do I ignore the ugly win against Pitt.pjsteelerfan said:
 Notre Dame had a few duds on their schedule as well. That Pitt win was impressive, just saying. How quickly you guys forget those, If you want to play that game. And again, I am not saying you did not deserve to be in it. But ND was not clearly better than multiple teams and could EASILY lose to any of the top 10 teams, if not top 25 on any given weekend.darwinstheory said:
 Ohio State lost to PURDUE by more than Notre Dame did to Clemson. It was however by fewer points than Bama lost to Clemson.pjsteelerfan said:
 Not saying they did not deserve it since they were undefeated; but Bama, Oklahoma, and as much as it pains me to say it, Ohio State, would have all smoked Notre Dame as well. I'd take Georgia and Washington over them too.HesCalledDyer said:
 8 consecutive New Year's Bowl losses by an average margin of defeat of 21 pts.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 But once again, this is why there needs to be at least an 8 team playoff.
 UGA proved their worth by bashing ND during their ass kicking by Clemson, then turning around and suffering an almost equal bait down by a FAR lesser team.
 Washington? That's the first time I heard that crazy argument .
 We do however agree on an 8 team playoff, so we have that in common.
 You can't judge teams on meaningless exhibition games, which is what every single bowl game outside of the playoffs is. They are nothing more than glorified exhibitions.
 OSU, got a royal beat down by Purdue, barely beat Maryland in OT (when Maryland chose to go for 2 instead of tie) and the squeaked by Nebraska.
 In ignoring the "meaningless exhibition games" Washington still lost 3 games...without checking close games. UGA lost 2.
 Those were just the teams previously discussed. We haven't even touched on UCF.
 I did see you mentioned that they did not deserve to not be in. And I do agree that any team in the top 25, with exception to #1 and #2 could lose to most any other top 25 team any given weekend."A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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 OSU would have destroyed ND...darwinstheory said:
 Ohio State lost to PURDUE by more than Notre Dame did to Clemson. It was however by fewer points than Bama lost to Clemson.pjsteelerfan said:
 Not saying they did not deserve it since they were undefeated; but Bama, Oklahoma, and as much as it pains me to say it, Ohio State, would have all smoked Notre Dame as well. I'd take Georgia and Washington over them too.HesCalledDyer said:
 8 consecutive New Year's Bowl losses by an average margin of defeat of 21 pts.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 But once again, this is why there needs to be at least an 8 team playoff.
 UGA proved their worth by bashing ND during their ass kicking by Clemson, then turning around and suffering an almost equal bait down by a FAR lesser team.
 Washington? That's the first time I heard that crazy argument .
 We do however agree on an 8 team playoff, so we have that in common.Give Peas A Chance…0
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 I get it, but that was not their only close game. They had a few close games they could have easily lost, including the one against Michigan. A team that got crushed by that same OSU team that lost to Purdue. And crushed by Florida.darwinstheory said:
 I enjoy the sarcastic undertones here. Please be aware, I most certainly did not forget, nor do I ignore the ugly win against Pitt.pjsteelerfan said:
 Notre Dame had a few duds on their schedule as well. That Pitt win was impressive, just saying. How quickly you guys forget those, If you want to play that game. And again, I am not saying you did not deserve to be in it. But ND was not clearly better than multiple teams and could EASILY lose to any of the top 10 teams, if not top 25 on any given weekend.darwinstheory said:
 Ohio State lost to PURDUE by more than Notre Dame did to Clemson. It was however by fewer points than Bama lost to Clemson.pjsteelerfan said:
 Not saying they did not deserve it since they were undefeated; but Bama, Oklahoma, and as much as it pains me to say it, Ohio State, would have all smoked Notre Dame as well. I'd take Georgia and Washington over them too.HesCalledDyer said:
 8 consecutive New Year's Bowl losses by an average margin of defeat of 21 pts.darwinstheory said:Huh...maybe Notre Dame just so happened to run into BY FAR the BEST team in College Football this year.
 Wonder if the haters will admit that ND did deserve their CFP bid. Bama was favored in this game. Not sure by how much. Clemson was favored by 12.5 over ND. Clemson is beating Bama worse than they beat ND.
 NOT saying ND is better than Bama, please don't mistake that. Just wondering if the ND haters will be able to be objective about it now.
 But once again, this is why there needs to be at least an 8 team playoff.
 UGA proved their worth by bashing ND during their ass kicking by Clemson, then turning around and suffering an almost equal bait down by a FAR lesser team.
 Washington? That's the first time I heard that crazy argument .
 We do however agree on an 8 team playoff, so we have that in common.
 You can't judge teams on meaningless exhibition games, which is what every single bowl game outside of the playoffs is. They are nothing more than glorified exhibitions.
 OSU, got a royal beat down by Purdue, barely beat Maryland in OT (when Maryland chose to go for 2 instead of tie) and the squeaked by Nebraska.
 In ignoring the "meaningless exhibition games" Washington still lost 3 games...without checking close games. UGA lost 2.
 Those were just the teams previously discussed. We haven't even touched on UCF.
 I did see you mentioned that they did not deserve to not be in. And I do agree that any team in the top 25, with exception to #1 and #2 could lose to most any other top 25 team any given weekend.
 Guess i just got tired of all the ND fans trying to justify their place today. Are they a top 10 team? Yes. Are they clearly the third best team in the country behind Clemson and Bama, No. But they earned their place in the playoff.
 Will they be top 10 to start 2019? I'd say so. Could they go undefeated and play in the playoff next year? Possibly. Could they lose 4-5 games next year, also very possible.Post edited by pjsteelerfan on...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...0
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            How about that ACC football!! Three titles in six years, more than any other conference! You see, since I'm a Florida State fan, and because we kicked off this run, I get to ride the Clemson coat tails now. If you're not playing in the ACC, are you even playing football?(That's how this all works in the SEC, right?)Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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            Congrats to Clemson. I haven't seen my Tide get their ass kicked like that in this century.
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