Important Change To Ten Club Membership Benefits

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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    LeeRoberts24 said:
    deadendp said:
    LeeRoberts24 said:
    Never posted before but I am sad about this.  I Joined in 98 and have a member number in the 193 range.  After some crafty use of ebay and sales on 10C website, I collected the other singles.  I will have a full set once these last two get shipped.  Is there any way to get an analog membership count pre announcement and then get another next year?
    Not exactly sure of what you are asking here.  
    I apologize for the confusion.  I was wondering if you could see the number of people who were analog members before the announcement and then see how membership drops off.  I also wonder how many people discontinued the auto renew feature shortly after the announcement
    Ahhh.  I am sure that they can see that.  

    We were visiting with a good friend and fellow forum member just yesterday.  We had an on and off discussion about this all day. 

    A single guy who is able to travel, he has been one to be able to take advantage of the ticket perk portion of membership more than me.  

    Married and mom to a 15 year old, I have been more on the annual single side of the perk. Tough to go to far away concerts. 

    Both of us agree that they have always delivered the goods, but always on their time.  My pal mentioned, in regard to those bent out of shape, mentioning class action and contacting police, "I wonder if they recall that this is a membership to a band fan club?" 

    In the end, we have been given a gift of music and we are all here because we have loved that gift.  

    Something good will be sorted out.  Give it time.  
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    I would hope those mentioning police/class action are limited to a number less than 10 people.  We'll see what comes next but I think that the main takeaway that is disappointing people is the realization that the band just doesn't care as much as it used to.  At least that is my main takeaway.  Perhaps it is a cost issue for them but they've done these singles for a long time now and probably have a good idea of the cost. 
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    How long before a Vegas residency is announced?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    MedozK said:
    How long before a Vegas residency is announced?
    :grimacing:
    :lol:

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  • bigjilm
    bigjilm Sea Posts: 186
    MedozK said:
    How long before a Vegas residency is announced?
    I'm still waiting for the Key Arena residency!
  • AK75990
    AK75990 Posts: 2
    I read the first couple of pages of this thread and pretty much everything is said, but I´ll give my view too. I´m not sure if I´ve ever posted to this forum before, but I guess I have to try it. I´ve been a PJ-fan since the beginning of the 90´s have been a member of the fan club for some 20 years. The only time I´ve seen the band live was at the Roskilde festival in 2000, which most of you have probably heard of. That evening not only ended the way it did, but it also formed a bond to the band and fellow audience members who were present that has been strong to this day.

    I have been a vinyl collector all of my life, and am well aware that I am part of a thing that will not exist at some point any more. Thats perfectly ok and there is no bitterness involved. The world is not a museum and I am a consumer of music on Spotifys and likes. However, a digital download can never mean the same thing as vinyl (and this annual vinyl single) for me versus a band. One of the main reasons for why I thought the Ten Club was cool in the first place was the vinyl single. At the time that I joined vinyl was almost dead and here were these cool guys that believed in the same thing I did and had a really special thing in their fan club. It was romantic and old fashioned.

    So where does this leave us? The prize of the membership has gone up dramatically over the years. A t-shirt has been included, but most of them have been really basic bulk with not much effort. As a Scandinavian, I have no use for pre-purchase tickets to Boston or Seattle or whatever outside of Europe. PJ visits Europe once in 10 years maybe and the last time they played my home country was around 1997/1998. So 50 dollars for what now that the main reason is gone? Of course I could become a digital member, but I have no interest in paying for things I have no interest in.

    So, unless there is an announcment with something new and really interesting that is to be included in the membershit, we are parting ways. I am still of fan of the band and the music.
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    AK75990 said:
    I read the first couple of pages of this thread and pretty much everything is said, but I´ll give my view too. I´m not sure if I´ve ever posted to this forum before, but I guess I have to try it. I´ve been a PJ-fan since the beginning of the 90´s have been a member of the fan club for some 20 years. The only time I´ve seen the band live was at the Roskilde festival in 2000, which most of you have probably heard of. That evening not only ended the way it did, but it also formed a bond to the band and fellow audience members who were present that has been strong to this day.

    I have been a vinyl collector all of my life, and am well aware that I am part of a thing that will not exist at some point any more. Thats perfectly ok and there is no bitterness involved. The world is not a museum and I am a consumer of music on Spotifys and likes. However, a digital download can never mean the same thing as vinyl (and this annual vinyl single) for me versus a band. One of the main reasons for why I thought the Ten Club was cool in the first place was the vinyl single. At the time that I joined vinyl was almost dead and here were these cool guys that believed in the same thing I did and had a really special thing in their fan club. It was romantic and old fashioned.

    So where does this leave us? The prize of the membership has gone up dramatically over the years. A t-shirt has been included, but most of them have been really basic bulk with not much effort. As a Scandinavian, I have no use for pre-purchase tickets to Boston or Seattle or whatever outside of Europe. PJ visits Europe once in 10 years maybe and the last time they played my home country was around 1997/1998. So 50 dollars for what now that the main reason is gone? Of course I could become a digital member, but I have no interest in paying for things I have no interest in.

    So, unless there is an announcment with something new and really interesting that is to be included in the membershit, we are parting ways. I am still of fan of the band and the music.
    Pearl Jam played Europe in 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2018.  2006 was the last year they played a concert that was less than 160 miles distance from my hometown.  
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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    AK75990 said:
    I read the first couple of pages of this thread and pretty much everything is said, but I´ll give my view too. I´m not sure if I´ve ever posted to this forum before, but I guess I have to try it. I´ve been a PJ-fan since the beginning of the 90´s have been a member of the fan club for some 20 years. The only time I´ve seen the band live was at the Roskilde festival in 2000, which most of you have probably heard of. That evening not only ended the way it did, but it also formed a bond to the band and fellow audience members who were present that has been strong to this day.

    I have been a vinyl collector all of my life, and am well aware that I am part of a thing that will not exist at some point any more. Thats perfectly ok and there is no bitterness involved. The world is not a museum and I am a consumer of music on Spotifys and likes. However, a digital download can never mean the same thing as vinyl (and this annual vinyl single) for me versus a band. One of the main reasons for why I thought the Ten Club was cool in the first place was the vinyl single. At the time that I joined vinyl was almost dead and here were these cool guys that believed in the same thing I did and had a really special thing in their fan club. It was romantic and old fashioned.

    So where does this leave us? The prize of the membership has gone up dramatically over the years. A t-shirt has been included, but most of them have been really basic bulk with not much effort. As a Scandinavian, I have no use for pre-purchase tickets to Boston or Seattle or whatever outside of Europe. PJ visits Europe once in 10 years maybe and the last time they played my home country was around 1997/1998. So 50 dollars for what now that the main reason is gone? Of course I could become a digital member, but I have no interest in paying for things I have no interest in.

    So, unless there is an announcment with something new and really interesting that is to be included in the membershit, we are parting ways. I am still of fan of the band and the music.
    I think that for a lot of fans a digital membership will be needed. There will be members only stuff in the shop like vinyl.
  • AK75990
    AK75990 Posts: 2
    edited January 2019
    PB11041 said:
    Pearl Jam played Europe in 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2018.  2006 was the last year they played a concert that was less than 160 miles distance from my hometown. 
    I admit, my prediction was maybe a bit exaggerated. Given previous touring activity, there is justified reason to believe that they turn up more than once in the next ten years ;) Maybe my pessimism was based on the activity of recent years and general disappointment over the vinyl single cancellation. EDIT: And I have great respect for fans who travel to see a band (like you seem to do). I wish I could do it more.
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  • JP135847
    JP135847 Posts: 1
    If the Christmas single vinyl is going away, and the physical stuff we used to get (Deep, stickers, etc.) has also been going away, the analog membership price should drop, or replace the single with some other exclusive physical merch. The free 10C shirt is ok, but the designs are kinda lame. Give us more incentive to be analog members. Seems the perks have been becoming less while the price increases! 
  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    MedozK said:
    How long before a Vegas residency is announced?
    I live in Vegas, where they haven't played since 2006, and would never go even if they did. I've had the pleasure of attending shows from '95 -'13, and to see them at a Vegas residency would only have me comparing that to the best shows I saw between '95-'00, and that wouldn't be good. Besides that, those kind of shows are so overpriced, and pander to a general, mostly tourist audience anyway, and are such predictable and impersonal productions - the opposite of everything I used to love about Pearl Jam. This may not be the end for them completely, but definitely the end of an era, and the end of my membership when it comes up for renewal in May.
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    JP135847 said:
    If the Christmas single vinyl is going away, and the physical stuff we used to get (Deep, stickers, etc.) has also been going away, the analog membership price should drop, or replace the single with some other exclusive physical merch. The free 10C shirt is ok, but the designs are kinda lame. Give us more incentive to be analog members. Seems the perks have been becoming less while the price increases! 
    The annual vinyl isn't going away. It's now gone as of 2019. 
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,669
    drummerboy_73 said:
    MedozK said:
    How long before a Vegas residency is announced?
    I live in Vegas, where they haven't played since 2006, and would never go even if they did. I've had the pleasure of attending shows from '95 -'13, and to see them at a Vegas residency would only have me comparing that to the best shows I saw between '95-'00, and that wouldn't be good. Besides that, those kind of shows are so overpriced, and pander to a general, mostly tourist audience anyway, and are such predictable and impersonal productions - the opposite of everything I used to love about Pearl Jam. This may not be the end for them completely, but definitely the end of an era, and the end of my membership when it comes up for renewal in May.
    IIRC, Eddie said in an interview that the only reason they played Vegas was because Kelly Curtis likes to go there. Don't see a residency happening.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    JP135847 said:
    If the Christmas single vinyl is going away, and the physical stuff we used to get (Deep, stickers, etc.) has also been going away, the analog membership price should drop, or replace the single with some other exclusive physical merch. The free 10C shirt is ok, but the designs are kinda lame. Give us more incentive to be analog members. Seems the perks have been becoming less while the price increases! 
    I agree 100%. 

    I hope 10C comes through with an update on this that explains what, if anything, an analog membership buys us members.   If it means analog membership gains nothing, I feel badly for those who auto-renewed since the "Important Change To Ten Club Membership Benefits" was announced.  Seems weird to me that this came with no explanation.

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  • ejkirik
    ejkirik Posts: 5
    drummerboy_73 said:

    SCH said:
    My Thoughts on the Fan Friendly Band
    1 New Song in Over 5 Years.
    12 days of Xmas is almost entirely covers songs, RITFW is old and tired, enough already
    Now No Holiday Single, not even just reduced to just a MP3 to reduce your trouble and costs, seems lazy
    Hearing the same 2013 clips on Sirius on how much the band loves to create and record to together has become comical
    Nothing new or exciting around here for a very long time. It's sad. I for one used to log on here everyday, now completely forget about Pearl Jam months at a time. I wish this was not the case. Oh well..
    You've given so much as a band, we are spoiled, it's hard to complain but I guess Nothing Lasts Forever is right.
    I've been a member since 2000 
    Thank you Pearl Jam for a great 25 year run but it's just over for me, at least for now, I am sure I'll be back if there is ever another album.
    Disappointed. 
    Great summary, couldn't agree more. I've been in the fan club since 1995. Just cancelled my auto-renew, and don't think I'll be coming back. Besides what you stated above, the fact that they haven't played my city (Las Vegas) in over 12 years makes the ticket benefit a moot point. Saw them last in 2013 in L.A. with my kids, so that was cool, and probably a good way to go out. Not paying several hundred dollars for stadium shows and can't afford to plunk down hundreds more to travel to "destination shows" if that's how they're going to continue "touring". Plus, I don't need to hear anymore greatest hits/cover song shows, with songs detuned because Ed can't sing them anymore and having the crowd take over - not what I'm paying to see/hear. The 2018 shows I've heard are almost unbearable to listen to. I know I've seen the band in their prime from '95-2000, and the last good album was 12 years ago. Too much overpriced merch on the site, lack of delivery on things we've already paid for, and a complete lack of any communication or indication of future activity is enough for me to make the call. I'll probably continue to buy new albums when/if released, but as far as the other "stuff", just not worth it anymore. There's so many other great bands doing great things, and I get more excited seeing local bands killing at my local venues than these big arena shows anyway. Thanks for everything for the past 25+ years Pearl Jam. It's been a swell ride.
    drummerboy_73 said:
    Sour Grapes?
    SCH said:
    My Thoughts on the Fan Friendly Band
    1 New Song in Over 5 Years.
    12 days of Xmas is almost entirely covers songs, RITFW is old and tired, enough already
    Now No Holiday Single, not even just reduced to just a MP3 to reduce your trouble and costs, seems lazy
    Hearing the same 2013 clips on Sirius on how much the band loves to create and record to together has become comical
    Nothing new or exciting around here for a very long time. It's sad. I for one used to log on here everyday, now completely forget about Pearl Jam months at a time. I wish this was not the case. Oh well..
    You've given so much as a band, we are spoiled, it's hard to complain but I guess Nothing Lasts Forever is right.
    I've been a member since 2000 
    Thank you Pearl Jam for a great 25 year run but it's just over for me, at least for now, I am sure I'll be back if there is ever another album.
    Disappointed. 
    Great summary, couldn't agree more. I've been in the fan club since 1995. Just cancelled my auto-renew, and don't think I'll be coming back. Besides what you stated above, the fact that they haven't played my city (Las Vegas) in over 12 years makes the ticket benefit a moot point. Saw them last in 2013 in L.A. with my kids, so that was cool, and probably a good way to go out. Not paying several hundred dollars for stadium shows and can't afford to plunk down hundreds more to travel to "destination shows" if that's how they're going to continue "touring". Plus, I don't need to hear anymore greatest hits/cover song shows, with songs detuned because Ed can't sing them anymore and having the crowd take over - not what I'm paying to see/hear. The 2018 shows I've heard are almost unbearable to listen to. I know I've seen the band in their prime from '95-2000, and the last good album was 12 years ago. Too much overpriced merch on the site, lack of delivery on things we've already paid for, and a complete lack of any communication or indication of future activity is enough for me to make the call. I'll probably continue to buy new albums when/if released, but as far as the other "stuff", just not worth it anymore. There's so many other great bands doing great things, and I get more excited seeing local bands killing at my local venues than these big arena shows anyway. Thanks for everything for the past 25+ years Pearl Jam. It's been a swell ride.




  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited January 2019
    Maybe im realistic or maybe i should expect more.  I’ll take whatever i can get.  Might sound like a free pass to the 10c.  I know they should communicate more but its not a huge deal to me.  PJ is 5 old(er) dudes with huge bank accounts and a lot of hobbies that are probably more interesting to them at this point. I’ll take whatever i can get. 

    I dont even know why im analog.  :lol: My mailwoman bends the 45 into a horseshoe shaped piece of vinyl every year.  Ive gone to 1 PJ show in the last 16 years and we left after one song because the kid was tired after a long festival day.  Its just continuity to me. 


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  • EvieVedder
    EvieVedder NW Indiana Posts: 461
    I hope all the people declaring that they're cancelling their auto renewals are ahead of me on the seniority list!
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    EvieVedder said:
    I hope all the people declaring that they're cancelling their auto renewals are ahead of me on the seniority list!
    Sent my buddy a message yesterday. "We're moving on up!" 
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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    With this announcement, I still can’t believe they have not announced a restructuring of the fan club levels. Why would anyone re-up as Analog?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    MedozK said:
    With this announcement, I still can’t believe they have not announced a restructuring of the fan club levels. Why would anyone re-up as Analog?
    Fear of Missing out.

    And maybe Ten Club is banking on that.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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