America could be so lucky to have a president Warren.
Yeah, but she'd never win.
I don't know if Trump's beatable, but Warren already is already kinda "Hilary Light" in terms of being polarizing/ hated. She wouldn't stand a chance.
I honestly think Beto's the best chance. He needs to lay low and enter like Obama did...full of positive energy and lacking skeletons in the closet or a history of being hated.
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Trump is very beatable. I dont see how he is gaining support. Sure, he has his base, but I see him losing support amongst moderates and swing voters, and definitely women. Add a more enthusiastic suport of the dem nominee in 2020 to offset the small vote differances in swing states, very beatable.
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Who knows maybe the dem nominee will visit some of the swing states this go around. That wouldnt hurt their chances. Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, cough, cough.
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I'm on board with a Gavin Newsom/Cory Booker ticket.
Whoever emerges from the DEM primary, MUST select the person who came in 2nd as the VP. I don't even give a shit, get over it and unify to trounce this piece of trash.
If HRC had done that with Bernie...we would be in an alternate universe.
I'm on board with a Gavin Newsom/Cory Booker ticket.
Whoever emerges from the DEM primary, MUST select the person who came in 2nd as the VP. I don't even give a shit, get over it and unify to trounce this piece of trash.
If HRC had done that with Bernie...we would be in an alternate universe.
I'm on board with a Gavin Newsom/Cory Booker ticket.
Whoever emerges from the DEM primary, MUST select the person who came in 2nd as the VP. I don't even give a shit, get over it and unify to trounce this piece of trash.
If HRC had done that with Bernie...we would be in an alternate universe.
I think both have a future in national politics, i guess Booker is alread there as a US Senator... both are definitely working towards a shot at being a nominee at some point... just not sure 2020 is great for running a liberal former mayor of San Francisco and frankly Booker doesnt seem ready for the big time and kind of seems to try force things and be Barack sometimes... should be a very interesting primary season
I'm on board with a Gavin Newsom/Cory Booker ticket.
Whoever emerges from the DEM primary, MUST select the person who came in 2nd as the VP. I don't even give a shit, get over it and unify to trounce this piece of trash.
If HRC had done that with Bernie...we would be in an alternate universe.
Yes i agree !
But can you imagine that if Hillary had been elected all of the yelling and screaming about emails, Benghazi, Clinton initiative, bill, etc...
I'm on board with a Gavin Newsom/Cory Booker ticket.
Whoever emerges from the DEM primary, MUST select the person who came in 2nd as the VP. I don't even give a shit, get over it and unify to trounce this piece of trash.
If HRC had done that with Bernie...we would be in an alternate universe.
Yes i agree !
But can you imagine that if Hillary had been elected all of the yelling and screaming about emails, Benghazi, Clinton initiative, bill, etc...
Or how about Biden/Michelle O? That would be fascinating!
I think it would be a bad idea. If Trump makes it through his first term, then he will be on the ballot in 2020. There are definitely some Trump voters who will be rethinking their vote come 2020. Put anybody with the name Obama on the ticket and you will get a protest vote.
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I don't think this could happen but I could see a Biden/O'Rourke team in the WH. Biden's experience to right the ship and O'Rourke learning all he needs for governing in a follow-up run in the future. There's a lot to learn about all the other candidates who want to run so this is just an early thought...experience in governing is key to me though. I could also see Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris. Happy New Year to you all. I hope you had a wonderful evening and will have a great year ahead.
Day one. Good for him for not waiting until he is set to retire.
This has Jeff Flake written all over it. He’s there to protec Trump and vote with him.
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Day one. Good for him for not waiting until he is set to retire.
There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
Day one. Good for him for not waiting until he is set to retire.
There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
I don't think this could happen but I could see a Biden/O'Rourke team in the WH. Biden's experience to right the ship and O'Rourke learning all he needs for governing in a follow-up run in the future. There's a lot to learn about all the other candidates who want to run so this is just an early thought...experience in governing is key to me though. I could also see Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris. Happy New Year to you all. I hope you had a wonderful evening and will have a great year ahead.
I can't remember where I heard the discussion but I remember some talking heads saying that they could see Biden running with O'Rourke where Biden basically says he is just going to serve one term due to his age, with the idea of handing the reigns to O'Rourke after that term.
I could get into that.
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I don't think this could happen but I could see a Biden/O'Rourke team in the WH. Biden's experience to right the ship and O'Rourke learning all he needs for governing in a follow-up run in the future. There's a lot to learn about all the other candidates who want to run so this is just an early thought...experience in governing is key to me though. I could also see Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris. Happy New Year to you all. I hope you had a wonderful evening and will have a great year ahead.
I can't remember where I heard the discussion but I remember some talking heads saying that they could see Biden running with O'Rourke where Biden basically says he is just going to serve one term due to his age, with the idea of handing the reigns to O'Rourke after that term.
I could get into that.
What about Warren running? That is a big possibility.
Day one. Good for him for not waiting until he is set to retire.
There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
Easy on the LDS insults. Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts. This isn't the real world. But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior. Romney did that day one and I commend him for that. I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same. We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.
I don't think this could happen but I could see a Biden/O'Rourke team in the WH. Biden's experience to right the ship and O'Rourke learning all he needs for governing in a follow-up run in the future. There's a lot to learn about all the other candidates who want to run so this is just an early thought...experience in governing is key to me though. I could also see Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris. Happy New Year to you all. I hope you had a wonderful evening and will have a great year ahead.
I can't remember where I heard the discussion but I remember some talking heads saying that they could see Biden running with O'Rourke where Biden basically says he is just going to serve one term due to his age, with the idea of handing the reigns to O'Rourke after that term.
I could get into that.
What about Warren running? That is a big possibility.
I think she's great. I worry that the GOP has beaten her up so badly with this pocahontas crap that she might be damaged from that. She can definitely fight her way out of it. I fear that this stupid country just can't elect a woman yet.
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Day one. Good for him for not waiting until he is set to retire.
There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
Easy on the LDS insults. Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts. This isn't the real world. But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior. Romney did that day one and I commend him for that. I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same. We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.
Not a fan of joking about religion? You didn't sttike me as the type
Day one. Good for him for not waiting until he is set to retire.
There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
Easy on the LDS insults. Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts. This isn't the real world. But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior. Romney did that day one and I commend him for that. I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same. We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.
Not a fan of joking about religion? You didn't sttike me as the type
I joke about my own. When I was in college, I wrote a paper about how Mormonism was a cult. It didn't go over well in the seminar discussion and I learned a lot from it, none of it good. I've just never teased people about their belief systems since then. As goofy as I may think LDS is, I have found the Mormons to be really good people. They seem to actually practice their beliefs in providing aid to the poor, helping those in need, etc. Their care for humans doesn't appear to end at teh time of birth, like some other conservative religions. I've grown to respect them over the years. Now Scientology on the other hand....
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I don't know if Trump's beatable, but Warren already is already kinda "Hilary Light" in terms of being polarizing/ hated. She wouldn't stand a chance.
I honestly think Beto's the best chance. He needs to lay low and enter like Obama did...full of positive energy and lacking skeletons in the closet or a history of being hated.
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Im not really a fan of any (though really any of them will have my vote).
Whoever emerges from the DEM primary, MUST select the person who came in 2nd as the VP. I don't even give a shit, get over it and unify to trounce this piece of trash.
If HRC had done that with Bernie...we would be in an alternate universe.
Oh wait
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-closes-out-2018-with-a-litany-of-complaints/ar-BBRFScY?ocid=spartanntp
He wants it sooo bad. It's amusing watching him stomp his feet and throw a tantrum because he can't get it. It really is.
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Alienate the military CHECK.....
Trump attacks McChrystal after retired general called Trump immoral https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/01/politics/trump-tweet-mcchrystal/index.html
Love the Op Ed
Day one. Good for him for not waiting until he is set to retire.
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I could get into that.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
Now Scientology on the other hand....