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  • DC29940
    DC29940 Tucson, AZ Posts: 709
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    listening to those unreleased demos Eric leaked to the net when they broke up. such good songs. hopefully they get an official release one day. 
    I somehow missed those! Can you do me a solid and point me in their direction?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    DC29940 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    listening to those unreleased demos Eric leaked to the net when they broke up. such good songs. hopefully they get an official release one day. 
    I somehow missed those! Can you do me a solid and point me in their direction?
    they used to be available for download on belowempty.com, but I can't seem to find them now. pm me your email and I can send them to you. 
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Didn’t some of those come out with the Core reissue?
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited December 2018
    I very nearly saw one of Scott’s final shows.  It was at a pretty small Mexican restaurant.  Seriously.  They just moved a few tables and kept serving drinks.  It didnt sell out and he came out, played four songs and left.  Said he wasnt feeling good.  Pretty sure he wasnt lying either judging by what happened a week later.  He skipped out on the VIP people too from what our usual waiter told us.  Sometimes I still wish i had went but im not sure id want to see him in that state

    adhesive is such a great song
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited December 2018
    DewieCox said:
    Didn’t some of those come out with the Core reissue?
    no, the only previously unheard studio track on that was the Mighty Joe Young (their first band name) demo Only Dying, which was supposed to be on the Crow soundtrack, but pulled at the last minute because of the title and the sensitivity regarding Brandon Lee's death. but the ones i'm talking about are:

    Heed the Water Whisper
    You Can't Drive Me Away (re-recorded and released on the True Blood soundtrack)
    Learning To Drive (released as a SW solo track on the Bugs soundtrack but re-titled Beautiful Day)
    Samba Nova (later re-recorded and released on the deluxe edition of their 2010 self titled album)
    About A Fool 

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  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    willbarclay said:
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
    unfortunately i think it was a tough choice for them. do they go with a completely different singer and end up in a talk show like situation again (commercial failure)? or do they go with what they know and at least get to tour and play live and sell records and deal with the inevitable criticism? tough choice. 
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    cp3iverson said:
    I very nearly saw one of Scott’s final shows.  It was at a pretty small Mexican restaurant.  Seriously.  They just moved a few tables and kept serving drinks.  It didnt sell out and he came out, played four songs and left.  Said he wasnt feeling good.  Pretty sure he wasnt lying either judging by what happened a week later.  He skipped out on the VIP people too from what our usual waiter told us.  Sometimes I still wish i had went but im not sure id want to see him in that state

    adhesive is such a great song
    He was scheduled to play a gig at a theatre here.  It didn't sell out, so it got downgraded to a local bar.  I still don't think it sold well.  They were trying to charge something like 80cdn / ticket.   The other probably was STP played here a few years before that and the show was really lathargic.  Lacked energy and no one was really into it. 

    I am glad I got to see STP twice in 2000 when they were still around the top of their game (no. 4 tour).  Saw velvet revolver twice too.  Decent, but not as good as STP (or GNR) :(
  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
    unfortunately i think it was a tough choice for them. do they go with a completely different singer and end up in a talk show like situation again (commercial failure)? or do they go with what they know and at least get to tour and play live and sell records and deal with the inevitable criticism? tough choice. 


    This is true.

    But I know 100% that the lead singer from I Mother Earth, Brian Byrne was trying out for the role and I think that could have been a perfect fit. 

    But I agree, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.  

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    willbarclay said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
    unfortunately i think it was a tough choice for them. do they go with a completely different singer and end up in a talk show like situation again (commercial failure)? or do they go with what they know and at least get to tour and play live and sell records and deal with the inevitable criticism? tough choice. 


    This is true.

    But I know 100% that the lead singer from I Mother Earth, Brian Byrne was trying out for the role and I think that could have been a perfect fit. 

    But I agree, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.  

    yes, he was. he would have been great. he didn't look the part though, which is unfortunately a reality in the decision process. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Zod said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I very nearly saw one of Scott’s final shows.  It was at a pretty small Mexican restaurant.  Seriously.  They just moved a few tables and kept serving drinks.  It didnt sell out and he came out, played four songs and left.  Said he wasnt feeling good.  Pretty sure he wasnt lying either judging by what happened a week later.  He skipped out on the VIP people too from what our usual waiter told us.  Sometimes I still wish i had went but im not sure id want to see him in that state

    adhesive is such a great song
    He was scheduled to play a gig at a theatre here.  It didn't sell out, so it got downgraded to a local bar.  I still don't think it sold well.  They were trying to charge something like 80cdn / ticket.   The other probably was STP played here a few years before that and the show was really lathargic.  Lacked energy and no one was really into it. 

    I am glad I got to see STP twice in 2000 when they were still around the top of their game (no. 4 tour).  Saw velvet revolver twice too.  Decent, but not as good as STP (or GNR) :(
    same thing happened here to both STP and SW. STP was scheduled to play the arena that holds 10,000, it got downgraded to a theatre that holds 1500. Then Scott went solo, was scheduled to play that same theatre, and it got downgraded to a bar that holds 300. it didn't even sell out. 

    I now regret skipping both those shows. the SW show was only $40, but after hearing about how erratic his performances were, I thought it wouldn't be worth it. 
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
    unfortunately i think it was a tough choice for them. do they go with a completely different singer and end up in a talk show like situation again (commercial failure)? or do they go with what they know and at least get to tour and play live and sell records and deal with the inevitable criticism? tough choice. 
    Harder for any of us to imagine - losing a dear friend and brother like that, deciding to carry on with it all.
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    willbarclay said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
    unfortunately i think it was a tough choice for them. do they go with a completely different singer and end up in a talk show like situation again (commercial failure)? or do they go with what they know and at least get to tour and play live and sell records and deal with the inevitable criticism? tough choice. 


    This is true.

    But I know 100% that the lead singer from I Mother Earth, Brian Byrne was trying out for the role and I think that could have been a perfect fit. 

    But I agree, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.  

    I thought Edwin was the lead singer of I Mother Earth..... was Byrne a replacement trying to get another replacement gig?
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Zod said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I very nearly saw one of Scott’s final shows.  It was at a pretty small Mexican restaurant.  Seriously.  They just moved a few tables and kept serving drinks.  It didnt sell out and he came out, played four songs and left.  Said he wasnt feeling good.  Pretty sure he wasnt lying either judging by what happened a week later.  He skipped out on the VIP people too from what our usual waiter told us.  Sometimes I still wish i had went but im not sure id want to see him in that state

    adhesive is such a great song
    He was scheduled to play a gig at a theatre here.  It didn't sell out, so it got downgraded to a local bar.  I still don't think it sold well.  They were trying to charge something like 80cdn / ticket.   The other probably was STP played here a few years before that and the show was really lathargic.  Lacked energy and no one was really into it. 

    I am glad I got to see STP twice in 2000 when they were still around the top of their game (no. 4 tour).  Saw velvet revolver twice too.  Decent, but not as good as STP (or GNR) :(
    same thing happened here to both STP and SW. STP was scheduled to play the arena that holds 10,000, it got downgraded to a theatre that holds 1500. Then Scott went solo, was scheduled to play that same theatre, and it got downgraded to a bar that holds 300. it didn't even sell out. 

    I now regret skipping both those shows. the SW show was only $40, but after hearing about how erratic his performances were, I thought it wouldn't be worth it. 
    Yah, in hindsight, had I'd know that was my last chance to see him live I would of gone to the bar show.  I still feel bad for him.  On top of the drugs it seems that lots of people (including family) had their tendrils in him financially.  The poor guy was stuck perpetually on tour just to try and keep the whole thing a float :(
  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    Zod said:
    willbarclay said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
    unfortunately i think it was a tough choice for them. do they go with a completely different singer and end up in a talk show like situation again (commercial failure)? or do they go with what they know and at least get to tour and play live and sell records and deal with the inevitable criticism? tough choice. 


    This is true.

    But I know 100% that the lead singer from I Mother Earth, Brian Byrne was trying out for the role and I think that could have been a perfect fit. 

    But I agree, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.  

    I thought Edwin was the lead singer of I Mother Earth..... was Byrne a replacement trying to get another replacement gig?
    Byrne replaced Edwin in 1998 and did 2 albums with IME. Once Brian tried out for STP I think the others canned him and Edwin resurfaced from whatever cave he was hiding out in.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited December 2018
    willbarclay said:
    Zod said:
    willbarclay said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    willbarclay said:
    They really should have chosen a singer who is nothing like SW. Maybe the shows would have a different outcome. I don't think I'd go if they came to town only because I know I would feel uncomfortable watching a tribute style show. These guys are STP and deserve a better outcome. Jeff didn't stand a chance. 
    unfortunately i think it was a tough choice for them. do they go with a completely different singer and end up in a talk show like situation again (commercial failure)? or do they go with what they know and at least get to tour and play live and sell records and deal with the inevitable criticism? tough choice. 


    This is true.

    But I know 100% that the lead singer from I Mother Earth, Brian Byrne was trying out for the role and I think that could have been a perfect fit. 

    But I agree, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.  

    I thought Edwin was the lead singer of I Mother Earth..... was Byrne a replacement trying to get another replacement gig?
    Byrne replaced Edwin in 1998 and did 2 albums with IME. Once Brian tried out for STP I think the others canned him and Edwin resurfaced from whatever cave he was hiding out in.
    i don't know if brian got canned. i think he tried out for stp but if that didn't work out he was going to just continue with his solo stuff. it might have been the same shit as with anthrax, where the guys wanted to tour behind the S&F record for the anniversary and then things just fell into/out of place with brian.

    edwin was in a band called crash karma (2 albums or radio rock) with the old guitarist from our lady peace, the drummer from tea party, and the bassist from zygote. 
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  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    Ya, I'm a huge IME fan. Been so since the beginning. 
    Byrne was slotted to be the singer for the Scenery Fish tour but then there was a change. Just happened to be at the same time he was trying out for STP. 
    I've seem them live 13 times and have to say I prefer Brian's performance over Edwin
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    willbarclay said:
    Ya, I'm a huge IME fan. Been so since the beginning. 
    Byrne was slotted to be the singer for the Scenery Fish tour but then there was a change. Just happened to be at the same time he was trying out for STP. 
    I've seem them live 13 times and have to say I prefer Brian's performance over Edwin
    he was, really? i thought it only came up because of their reconnecting with edwin. cool. 
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  • willbarclay
    willbarclay Ottawa, Canada Posts: 3,298
    Brian was what? Maybe 8 or 9 years younger than the Tanna brothers and I think he wanted to be more active. IME was only releasing one or two songs here and there so he said fuck it, try out for STP. I can see Jag not being thrilled with that and it just happened to be at the same time Chris had reunited with Edwin. Coincidence? Lol
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Purple 25th anniversary release coming Sept 13. 
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