Where does PJ go with the next record?

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,669
    tbergs said:
     I would love to hear them make some music more like what they did with Of the Girl, Sleight of Hand, 1/2 Full, You Are and Can't Keep. It's better if they get away from easily accessible and dig in for some tunes that let the guitars loose again.
    YES!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jammalambo
    Jammalambo Posts: 1,321
    tbergs said:
     I would love to hear them make some music more like what they did with Of the Girl, Sleight of Hand, 1/2 Full, You Are and Can't Keep. It's better if they get away from easily accessible and dig in for some tunes that let the guitars loose again.
    yes, yes and yes. Go back to serious music again.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,926
    I don't know but we'll find out in 2024 when it comes out!!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,961
    Jammalambo said:
    tbergs said:
     I would love to hear them make some music more like what they did with Of the Girl, Sleight of Hand, 1/2 Full, You Are and Can't Keep. It's better if they get away from easily accessible and dig in for some tunes that let the guitars loose again.
    yes, yes and yes. Go back to serious music again.
    For sure. Enough of this attempt at... I don't even know what to call it. Partly upbeat dad punk rock stuff with an awkward rhythm, and partly syrupy cheeze music. It's absolutely befuddling. I don't understand what happened, frankly. Most artists don't change THAT much in only 10 years.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    they should let Brendan Obrien put out an album and just slap the PJ name on it.  oh wait, they tried that already.
  • guypjfreak
    guypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    Gern Blansten said:
    I fear that we have a splintered band.  They seem to all be doing their own things and then they get together to put out an album.  

    I am not sure that a great album can be done this way.  I hope I'm wrong....it just seems like they need to be together for a decent amount of time to create something and I don't think that is on their schedule.
    Think you're right about that old son 
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    i wonder if anyone in the band reads this stuff?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,669
    vaggar99 said:
    they should let Brendan Obrien put out an album and just slap the PJ name on it.  oh wait, they tried that already.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • porchdweller
    porchdweller Posts: 228
    I want more of a Stone vibe to this.  He seems to have a cool groove and a lot of my favorites he was the main writer of the music.  Weed is legal in Washington, hope it's reflected in the music.  
    "That's part of the curse: If you're gonna play the song, you better play it. I've tried to phone in "Jeremy" a few times, and it's tough. It doesn't work."

    EV
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,972
    porchdweller said:
    I want more of a Stone vibe to this.  He seems to have a cool groove and a lot of my favorites he was the main writer of the music.  Weed is legal in Washington, hope it's reflected in the music.  
    Oh it's reflected in the music alright...no album for over 5 years!!!!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    edited December 2018
    I don't get all the hate for Brendan O'Brien.  Dude's produced some great fucking albums including fan favorites Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, & Yield, not to mention his body of work outside of PJ.
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  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,636
    more Matt tunes
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,961
    edited December 2018
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I don't get all the hate for Brendan O'Brien.  Dude's produced some great fucking albums including fan favorites Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, & Yield, not to mention his body of work outside of PJ.
    Yeah, and I acknowledge the greatness of those albums fully, but that was then. When it comes to PJ, he completely lost his mojo in the past decade. I don't know wtf happened to him artistically, but it was nothing good in terms of his PJ work. And he's dragged Eddie right along with him, apparently. Or maybe it's the other way around, I don't know. All I do know is that BoB and EV working together doesn't produce good results anymore.
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  • Norman MF Skeeter III
    Norman MF Skeeter III Posts: 81
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Wma31394 said:
    ^^^ I have no expectations..the days of putting out a great album are long gone..
    I bet people said this about Neil Young in the mid 80s too.

    But Neil is another beast ofc.
    They also said this about The Stones, unfortunately. The side projects might be killing this band's creative output. It'd be nice if some of these fresher ideas went to a PJ album.
    My thoughts exactly with The Stones and side projects. Spot on rummy
  • Norman MF Skeeter III
    Norman MF Skeeter III Posts: 81
    PB11041 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PB11041 said:
    I am not big into reruns, and I am a bit of an outlier in that I liked Lightning Bolt a lot.  I have no interest in wanting to hear Pearl Jam try to repeat themselves, so whatever it is I prefer it is music that inspires them (which is generally what they have always done) than any attempt to reach back to some godforsaken glory day.  

    :clap:  Thank you!  Some of these comments here make me wonder why some people are even still fans.  Always longing for the next No Code or Vitalogy, claiming the last 2-4 albums aren't good, or that the band lost their creativity or have become uninspired.  It's a good thing these guys aren't as snarky as Billy Corgan.  It's no wonder he gets pissed off at fans when they keep asking him to make Siamese & Mellon Collie 2.
    It is a thing I simply do not understand.  But honestly it was something I learned big time a long while ago with Vitalogy and No Code, sometimes fans really do just want things to be version 2.0.   Not my cup of tea.  
    Ed can be snarky about older material, let’s be honest about that. I do not necessarily believe fans want a version 2.0 of any album. It would be nice if they made a song or two in the same vein. My personal belief, they should go back, really listen to all the albums, and produce one song of each type. See where that takes them. Since we are on the subject of fandom, I don’t believe you have to love everything they do to be a fan. That is a bit ridiculous. That is like saying you have to love everything your partner does or, you really don’t love them. It makes me wonder how some people can consider themselves fans when, they skate the bands message by putting down others and their level of fandom. It is akin to the individuals who place their level of fandom upon how many shows they have attended, how many posters of a certain value they own, or how much merchandise they have purchased. Plain and simple, if you like the band or even one song, you are a fan. I hate the judgement that is heaped across this fanbase. I have never witnessed anything like it. Sometimes it makes people not want to participate.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I don't get all the hate for Brendan O'Brien.  Dude's produced some great fucking albums including fan favorites Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, & Yield, not to mention his body of work outside of PJ.
    the man is a badass.  without him, there would be no PJ today.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    PJ_Soul said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I don't get all the hate for Brendan O'Brien.  Dude's produced some great fucking albums including fan favorites Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, & Yield, not to mention his body of work outside of PJ.
    Yeah, and I acknowledge the greatness of those albums fully, but that was then. When it comes to PJ, he completely lost his mojo in the past decade. I don't know wtf happened to him artistically, but it was nothing good in terms of his PJ work. And he's dragged Eddie right along with him, apparently. Or maybe it's the other way around, I don't know. All I do know is that BoB and EV working together doesn't produce good results anymore.
    I think you've solved the mystery here.  I still think the results have been great.  I highly enjoy Backspacer & Lightning Bolt, but to each their own.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,494
    kramer73 said:
    more Matt tunes

    As long as he matches his tremendous performance on My Favourite Headache 
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    They should do a Dokken-influenced, LA-style glam metal album.  That would rule!
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  • WindowPaine
    WindowPaine Chicopee, MA Posts: 542
    i'm hoping they stop making new music. there's nothing i want to see/hear live from more or less the avocado album to lightning bolt
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