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    If you have a problem with real waterboarding, which is torture, and a war crime... then i suggest you talk to Obama and his administration 
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    edited November 2018
    A new term I am starting to dislike; the sky isn't falling. Yes, we are all aware of that. It doesn't mean we shouldn't stop, look around and figure out what the hell is happening so we can address it before we discover it was the initial particles of the meteor that was cruising toward us.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    my2hands said:
    If you have a problem with real waterboarding, which is torture, and a war crime... then i suggest you talk to Obama and his administration 
    It's hard to converse with the new you. Whataboutism is ok if you are using it now?
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    tbergs said:
    A new term I am starting to dislike; the sky isn't falling. Yes, we are all aware of that. It doesn't mean we shouldn't stop, look around and figure out what the hell is happening so we can address it before we discover it was the initial particles of the meteor that was cruising toward us.
    I've disliked it since Dec 2016. 
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    my2hands said:
    If you have a problem with real waterboarding, which is torture, and a war crime... then i suggest you talk to Obama and his administration 
    Are you saying this kid wasn’t “really” waterboarded? Or that you can’t care about both? 
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    my2hands said:
    If you have a problem with real waterboarding, which is torture, and a war crime... then i suggest you talk to Obama and his administration 
    And don’t you mean Bush/Cheney or as I like to refer, Shrub/Darth?
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    PJ_Soul said:
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    Holy fuck, since when could you not take a joke at any level, or not distinguish between analogous and literal statements? And how do you think that Americans pretending that everything is okay when it isn't is not happening? Or that saying that is saying that the sky is falling? And btw, this "sky isn't falling" line is what's ridiculous.
    (and FWIW, I bet a ton of Jews said "the sky isn't falling" during the 30s. Seriously)
    I still don't get the joke, sorry...

     America has never been "okay".  I see what goes on.  Bad thing is it's always been going on and people forget that...It's the reason I started listening to punk and reading The Nation.  Because everything isn't okay.

    My new line for any of you that think the world is ending is "The sky isn't falling".

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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    And don’t you mean Bush/Cheney opurposelyr as I like to refer, Shrub/Darth?
    They were a bunch of psychopaths, and war criminals... Obama administration came in to power and decided to turn their head and refused to investigate let alone prosecute... they dropped the ball purposely...when the crew before you authorizes war crimes, its your responsibility to fucking do something about it, even if its not politically convenient... like i said, talk to Obama
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    What does water boarding or bullying have to do with immigration?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Are you saying this kid wasn’t “really” waterboarded? Or that you can’t care about both? 
    Obviously the kid isn't being waterboarded... and of course i care about both... never said any different
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    my2hands said:
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    They were a bunch of psychopaths, and war criminals... Obama administration came in to power and decided to turn their head and refused to investigate let alone prosecute... they dropped the ball purposely...when the crew before you authorizes war crimes, its your responsibility to fucking do something about it, even if its not politically convenient... like i said, talk to Obama
    Interesting that you didn’t go after the Administration directly responsible for the horrendous mess they created.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    You saw a kid get water boarded in 4th grade or worse? Wow.
    Anybody here know what a "swirly" is? It's when a kids head is pushed into a toilet bowl and it gets flushed. 

    I also work with kids that literally rob weaker kids in school and shoot at each other over Instagram beefs, so i could be a little biased lol

    This is in no way defending bullying, or the loser in the video, i fucking hate bullies... it is also in no way trying to minimize the torture that kid is experiencing at school at the cruel hands of these punks... but the fact is, that is worth squat to that kid right now
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    my2hands said:
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    Obviously the kid isn't being waterboarded... and of course i care about both... never said any different
    Did you really see worse in 4th grade?
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    cincybearcat said:
    What does water boarding or bullying have to do with immigration?
    You know, one of those tangents threads occasionally take.
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    edited November 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Interesting that you didn’t go after the Administration directly responsible for the horrendous mess they created.
    I said they were psycopathic war criminals, not sure i can be any more clear on my opinion of that crew...  it wasnt my job to "go after them", it was the job of the guy i voted for... you are actually making my point

    You damn well remember that was an issue, and very soon after his inauguration he said they werent going to look backwards regarding the actions of the previous administration that they were moving forward for the good of the country or some bullshit like that
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    my2hands said:
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    I said they were psycopathic war criminals, not sure i can be any more clear on my opinion of that crew...  it wasnt my job to "go after them", it was the job of the guy i voted for... you are actually making my point

    You damn well remember that was an issue, and very soon after his inauguration he said they werent going to look backwards regarding the actions of the previous administration that they were moving forward for the good of the country or some bullshit like that
    and yet there were no protests over that. hmmmm....
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    my2hands said:
    I'm not kidding... a bullying video is proof the world is ending? 

    Of course it's fucked up, no shit, i hate bullies and would punch that loser in the throat, but bullying isnt anything new... i saw much worse in fucking 4th grade
    Okay you are officially losing it.

    In your endless quest to make light of everything, these recent posts have reached dizzying heights.

    And you saw much worse in the 4th grade? Really? You saw a pack of individuals led by an alt-right shithead break a refugee's arm and then continue to torment him?

    Come on, man.
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    And who said the sky is falling or the world is ending?

    People are saying it's changing. Are you denying this? Have neo-nazi marches down mainstreet America and demonstrations been happening every year? This insurgence is nothing new- it was just undocumented before?
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
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    Okay you are officially losing it.

    In your endless quest to make light of everything, these recent posts have reached dizzying heights.

    And you saw much worse in the 4th grade? Really? You saw a pack of individuals led by an alt-right shithead break a refugee's arm and then continue to torment him?

    Come on, man.
    I didnt see any arms get broken, and I'm not excusing or making light of anything. 

    The world can be fucked up, you guys aren't really that naive are you? Like this shit doesnt happen everyday in schools. Literally, every day.

    Sorry, i feel bad for the kid, but losing sleep? 

    Again, not to downplay the expereience of that poor kis, but when i read your guys reaction i was expecting much worse like they stomped the kid out or really tortured him on video, like these fine lads streaming on facebook live...

    https://youtu.be/1IavvBtR_to

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    my2hands said:
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    I didnt see any arms get broken, and I'm not excusing or making light of anything. 

    The world can be fucked up, you guys aren't really that naive are you? Like this shit doesnt happen everyday in schools. Literally, every day.

    Sorry, i feel bad for the kid, but losing sleep? 

    Again, not to downplay the expereience of that poor kis, but when i read your guys reaction i was expecting much worse like they stomped the kid out or really tortured him on video, like these fine lads streaming on facebook live...

    https://youtu.be/1IavvBtR_to

    If you cared to read the story... they broke his arm earlier (did you note the cast?). And that was not enough for them- they continued to torment him.

    Yah. Lose sleep. I feel shitty for kids when I see shit like that. Good for you to be able to so easily dismiss it or scoff at it.
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