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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    Amen
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    fife said:
    JimmyV said:
    Never understood the thinking behind "if you don't have a new album, you shouldn't tour." It reduces touring to just marketing for an album, and Pearl Jam shows have become so much more than that over the years.
    I think for me (get ready to attack)  I love a pearl Jam concert but I love new music more.  I don't want Pearl jam to become like (again ready to get attack) the Rolling stones.  also, touring is marketing, maybe not just for a record but for a band.
    New music is always good.  This band used to be all about putting out records.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    edited November 2018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    KN219077 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    So basically retire? I mean they don’t really put out new music at any pace.
    Not being able to tour without new music would force them to release more music.
    Not a good business decision. There is no money in recording. There is alot of money on touring 


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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    KN219077 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    So basically retire? I mean they don’t really put out new music at any pace.
    Not being able to tour without new music would force them to release more music.
    Not a good business decision. There is no money in recording. There is alot of money on touring 


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    yes, that's become very obvious.
  • LostDog_72
    LostDog_72 London Posts: 74
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    KN219077 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    So basically retire? I mean they don’t really put out new music at any pace.
    Not being able to tour without new music would force them to release more music.
    Not a good business decision. There is no money in recording. There is alot of money on touring 


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    Really?  Venue hire, marketing/advertising, security costs, travel costs, stage hands, riggers, insurance, catering...and on and on....that's a hell of a lot of tickets that need to be sold before a band covers those costs, let alone breaks even
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    LostDog_72 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    KN219077 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    So basically retire? I mean they don’t really put out new music at any pace.
    Not being able to tour without new music would force them to release more music.
    Not a good business decision. There is no money in recording. There is alot of money on touring 


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    Really?  Venue hire, marketing/advertising, security costs, travel costs, stage hands, riggers, insurance, catering...and on and on....that's a hell of a lot of tickets that need to be sold before a band covers those costs, let alone breaks even
    Which just shows how hard it is to make off of albums. You made good points and it’s stiol BY FAR the better way to make money. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    vaggar99 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    Amen

    What, their 16 average shows per year got your head spinning?
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Lerxst1992 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    Amen

    What, their 16 average shows per year got your head spinning?
    hahah...yes, especially considering i now live in Houston TX which they will NEVER come to again.  Sorry, don't say anything about Austin.  i'm not going there.  Besides, I thought these guys fancied themselves as artists.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    vaggar99 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    Amen

    What, their 16 average shows per year got your head spinning?
    hahah...yes, especially considering i now live in Houston TX which they will NEVER come to again.  Sorry, don't say anything about Austin.  i'm not going there.  Besides, I thought these guys fancied themselves as artists.
    Artists are not allowed to play live?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    Amen

    What, their 16 average shows per year got your head spinning?
    hahah...yes, especially considering i now live in Houston TX which they will NEVER come to again.  Sorry, don't say anything about Austin.  i'm not going there.  Besides, I thought these guys fancied themselves as artists.
    Artists are not allowed to play live?
     there was a time that this band seemed to care more about writing songs and putting them out then live shows.  in the early days live shows were extremely hard to come by, right?  For me, I had no money, no transportation.  You also had the problem of major ticket shortages and of course, the Ticketmaster beef.   So, I had to wait till the latter end of the 90's to see the band live.  By that time, I was hard core sold on the band's artistry.  Live shows were just icing on the cake.
  • karl_chihiro
    karl_chihiro Posts: 449
    edited November 2018
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    2019 tour rumors almost getting bumped off page one of porch in Nov 2018 is extremely depressing. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    Ed attributing Comfortably Numb to only Roger Waters, as great as Roger is, represents a significant misstep in front of the Pearl Jam audience. The song originated on the guitar of David Gilmour and the majority of the song was written during the recording of a Gilmour solo record 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,646
    edited November 2018
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Ed attributing Comfortably Numb to only Roger Waters, as great as Roger is, represents a significant misstep in front of the Pearl Jam audience. The song originated on the guitar of David Gilmour and the majority of the song was written during the recording of a Gilmour solo record 
    Does Eddie know his Pink Floyd though?

    First time he did the song was with Waters in 2012, and like most covers Pearl Jam keep are songs Eddie has been forced to learn. Haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Ed attributing Comfortably Numb to only Roger Waters, as great as Roger is, represents a significant misstep in front of the Pearl Jam audience. The song originated on the guitar of David Gilmour and the majority of the song was written during the recording of a Gilmour solo record 
    Does Eddie know his Pink Floyd though?

    First time he did the song was with Waters in 2012, and like most covers Pearl Jam keep are songs Eddie has been forced to learn. Haha.

    Yep. 12.12.12 Superstorm Sandy benefit at MSG. I remember watching on TV. So grateful Ed and Roger  came to town for our benefit (although ironically Roger might claim to be a Long Islander) . Terrible storm. Still think Dave deserves mention for mostly his song.
  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Ed attributing Comfortably Numb to only Roger Waters, as great as Roger is, represents a significant misstep in front of the Pearl Jam audience. The song originated on the guitar of David Gilmour and the majority of the song was written during the recording of a Gilmour solo record 
    I wish I could upvote this comment a million times 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296

    There should be no more debates about the bands lack of new music or small tour schedules.  It has been this way over a decade.  Everything is and has been about minimization of the band members time being a part of Pearl Jam and maintaining maximum flexibility.  


  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    ^^^^that's actually a popular opinion.
  • E.K
    E.K New South Wales, Australia Posts: 7,726
    Eddie really needs to buy himself some new clothes.  I think he wore that blue & black checked shirt at nearly every European and US show this year?  ffs Eddie you are not poor.. buy some new freaking clothes.  Also that white wide brimmed hat Eddie sometimes wears on stage at the solo shows is too big for his head and looks dumb, especially when worn with the old black & blue checked shirt.  And don't get me started on his 1980s hairstyle ...  

    Ahh.. that felt good.  :D 

      
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,011
    I'm with you on the hats. Jeff looked like boy George this tour 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -

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