Knowing What You Know Now, Would You Still Support Trump for President?

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

If Hillary is the other option again, then yes, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

I'm no Hillary fan but I'll never understand this notion that she was a worse option than Trump. Why? Trump has proven throughout his business career to be way more "crooked" than Hillary even had the ability to be. Don't get me wrong, she's no angel. I understand why and how anyone wouldn't want her as the President. But a crooked casino-owner turned reality TV star that has had several business endeavors go bankrupt? He was the better option?

Without getting into detail, when you want to make it clear that you do not support political dynasties or a number of democrat policies...then yes.  Not to mention that she has displayed no interest in rural agricultural communities.  There are not many of Clinton’s policies that I agree with.  How many times do you have to vote for Trump before the message gets across that you do not agree with the status quo political landscape?  Trump is just a pawn in voicing displeasure...a non-violent protest on my part.  I think he is as much of an idiot as everyone else, but I would still vote for him over Hillary any day.  Probably for a lot of the same reasons people voted for Bernie over her.

Fair enough. And frankly, your talk about political dynasties and democrat polices is what actually had me ready to vote for the republican for the first time in my voting life. Jeb, and maybe even Cruz, might have gotten my vote. But not Trump. Couldn't bring myself to do it. I'd take the status quo over complete chaos. 

Do people still think trump is outside the (republican) status quo? 

Ledbetterman10 said:

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

If Hillary is the other option again, then yes, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

I'm no Hillary fan but I'll never understand this notion that she was a worse option than Trump. Why? Trump has proven throughout his business career to be way more "crooked" than Hillary even had the ability to be. Don't get me wrong, she's no angel. I understand why and how anyone wouldn't want her as the President. But a crooked casino-owner turned reality TV star that has had several business endeavors go bankrupt? He was the better option?

Without getting into detail, when you want to make it clear that you do not support political dynasties or a number of democrat policies...then yes.  Not to mention that she has displayed no interest in rural agricultural communities.  There are not many of Clinton’s policies that I agree with.  How many times do you have to vote for Trump before the message gets across that you do not agree with the status quo political landscape?  Trump is just a pawn in voicing displeasure...a non-violent protest on my part.  I think he is as much of an idiot as everyone else, but I would still vote for him over Hillary any day.  Probably for a lot of the same reasons people voted for Bernie over her.

Fair enough. And frankly, your talk about political dynasties and democrat polices is what actually had me ready to vote for the republican for the first time in my voting life. Jeb, and maybe even Cruz, might have gotten my vote. But not Trump. Couldn't bring myself to do it. I'd take the status quo over complete chaos. 

Do people still think trump is outside the (republican) status quo? 

I do just based on the fact that Trump doesn't give a crap about the constitution and the Republican status quo has always been that the constitution is gospel. Also, the republicans have always been for smaller federal government and giving power to the states. Trump on the other hand wants to be a dictator. 

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

If Hillary is the other option again, then yes, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

I'm no Hillary fan but I'll never understand this notion that she was a worse option than Trump. Why? Trump has proven throughout his business career to be way more "crooked" than Hillary even had the ability to be. Don't get me wrong, she's no angel. I understand why and how anyone wouldn't want her as the President. But a crooked casino-owner turned reality TV star that has had several business endeavors go bankrupt? He was the better option?

Without getting into detail, when you want to make it clear that you do not support political dynasties or a number of democrat policies...then yes.  Not to mention that she has displayed no interest in rural agricultural communities.  There are not many of Clinton’s policies that I agree with.  How many times do you have to vote for Trump before the message gets across that you do not agree with the status quo political landscape?  Trump is just a pawn in voicing displeasure...a non-violent protest on my part.  I think he is as much of an idiot as everyone else, but I would still vote for him over Hillary any day.  Probably for a lot of the same reasons people voted for Bernie over her.

Fair enough. And frankly, your talk about political dynasties and democrat polices is what actually had me ready to vote for the republican for the first time in my voting life. Jeb, and maybe even Cruz, might have gotten my vote. But not Trump. Couldn't bring myself to do it. I'd take the status quo over complete chaos. 

Do people still think trump is outside the (republican) status quo? 

I do just based on the fact that Trump doesn't give a crap about the constitution and the Republican status quo has always been that the constitution is gospel. Also, the republicans have always been for smaller federal government and giving power to the states. Trump on the other hand wants to be a dictator. 

I'm still on the fence of whether he is just ignorant of how things work or if he is just that power hungry and honestly believes he can get away with anything he wants. 

it might be a bit of both. 

I think it's both, plus a little "never really had to follow rules or answer to anyone before."  The upcoming Democratic House will be the first check there's ever been to his authority.  

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

If Hillary is the other option again, then yes, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

I'm no Hillary fan but I'll never understand this notion that she was a worse option than Trump. Why? Trump has proven throughout his business career to be way more "crooked" than Hillary even had the ability to be. Don't get me wrong, she's no angel. I understand why and how anyone wouldn't want her as the President. But a crooked casino-owner turned reality TV star that has had several business endeavors go bankrupt? He was the better option?

Without getting into detail, when you want to make it clear that you do not support political dynasties or a number of democrat policies...then yes.  Not to mention that she has displayed no interest in rural agricultural communities.  There are not many of Clinton’s policies that I agree with.  How many times do you have to vote for Trump before the message gets across that you do not agree with the status quo political landscape?  Trump is just a pawn in voicing displeasure...a non-violent protest on my part.  I think he is as much of an idiot as everyone else, but I would still vote for him over Hillary any day.  Probably for a lot of the same reasons people voted for Bernie over her.

Fair enough. And frankly, your talk about political dynasties and democrat polices is what actually had me ready to vote for the republican for the first time in my voting life. Jeb, and maybe even Cruz, might have gotten my vote. But not Trump. Couldn't bring myself to do it. I'd take the status quo over complete chaos. 

Do people still think trump is outside the (republican) status quo? 

I do just based on the fact that Trump doesn't give a crap about the constitution and the Republican status quo has always been that the constitution is gospel. Also, the republicans have always been for smaller federal government and giving power to the states. Trump on the other hand wants to be a dictator. 

I'm still on the fence of whether he is just ignorant of how things work or if he is just that power hungry and honestly believes he can get away with anything he wants. 

it might be a bit of both. 

I think it's both, plus a little "never really had to follow rules or answer to anyone before."  The upcoming Democratic House will be the first check there's ever been to his authority.  

this really could work out to be a win for him, to be honest. he can just blame nothing getting done on the Democrats blocking everything he wants to do, riling up and angering his base. 

Hell, he already does sometimes with the current impotent Democratic Party.

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

If Hillary is the other option again, then yes, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

I'm no Hillary fan but I'll never understand this notion that she was a worse option than Trump. Why? Trump has proven throughout his business career to be way more "crooked" than Hillary even had the ability to be. Don't get me wrong, she's no angel. I understand why and how anyone wouldn't want her as the President. But a crooked casino-owner turned reality TV star that has had several business endeavors go bankrupt? He was the better option?

Without getting into detail, when you want to make it clear that you do not support political dynasties or a number of democrat policies...then yes.  Not to mention that she has displayed no interest in rural agricultural communities.  There are not many of Clinton’s policies that I agree with.  How many times do you have to vote for Trump before the message gets across that you do not agree with the status quo political landscape?  Trump is just a pawn in voicing displeasure...a non-violent protest on my part.  I think he is as much of an idiot as everyone else, but I would still vote for him over Hillary any day.  Probably for a lot of the same reasons people voted for Bernie over her.

Fair enough. And frankly, your talk about political dynasties and democrat polices is what actually had me ready to vote for the republican for the first time in my voting life. Jeb, and maybe even Cruz, might have gotten my vote. But not Trump. Couldn't bring myself to do it. I'd take the status quo over complete chaos. 

Do people still think trump is outside the (republican) status quo? 

I do just based on the fact that Trump doesn't give a crap about the constitution and the Republican status quo has always been that the constitution is gospel. Also, the republicans have always been for smaller federal government and giving power to the states. Trump on the other hand wants to be a dictator. 

I'm still on the fence of whether he is just ignorant of how things work or if he is just that power hungry and honestly believes he can get away with anything he wants. 

it might be a bit of both. 

I think it's both, plus a little "never really had to follow rules or answer to anyone before."  The upcoming Democratic House will be the first check there's ever been to his authority.  

this really could work out to be a win for him, to be honest. he can just blame nothing getting done on the Democrats blocking everything he wants to do, riling up and angering his base. 

The base is already riled and angry. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

HughFreakingDillon said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJPOWER said:

If Hillary is the other option again, then yes, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

I'm no Hillary fan but I'll never understand this notion that she was a worse option than Trump. Why? Trump has proven throughout his business career to be way more "crooked" than Hillary even had the ability to be. Don't get me wrong, she's no angel. I understand why and how anyone wouldn't want her as the President. But a crooked casino-owner turned reality TV star that has had several business endeavors go bankrupt? He was the better option?

Without getting into detail, when you want to make it clear that you do not support political dynasties or a number of democrat policies...then yes.  Not to mention that she has displayed no interest in rural agricultural communities.  There are not many of Clinton’s policies that I agree with.  How many times do you have to vote for Trump before the message gets across that you do not agree with the status quo political landscape?  Trump is just a pawn in voicing displeasure...a non-violent protest on my part.  I think he is as much of an idiot as everyone else, but I would still vote for him over Hillary any day.  Probably for a lot of the same reasons people voted for Bernie over her.

Fair enough. And frankly, your talk about political dynasties and democrat polices is what actually had me ready to vote for the republican for the first time in my voting life. Jeb, and maybe even Cruz, might have gotten my vote. But not Trump. Couldn't bring myself to do it. I'd take the status quo over complete chaos. 

Do people still think trump is outside the (republican) status quo? 

I do just based on the fact that Trump doesn't give a crap about the constitution and the Republican status quo has always been that the constitution is gospel. Also, the republicans have always been for smaller federal government and giving power to the states. Trump on the other hand wants to be a dictator. 

I'm still on the fence of whether he is just ignorant of how things work or if he is just that power hungry and honestly believes he can get away with anything he wants. 

it might be a bit of both. 

I think it's both, plus a little "never really had to follow rules or answer to anyone before."  The upcoming Democratic House will be the first check there's ever been to his authority.  

this really could work out to be a win for him, to be honest. he can just blame nothing getting done on the Democrats blocking everything he wants to do, riling up and angering his base. 

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Would it be fair to suggest the majority (or core) of his base is comprised of uneducated, white males?

Call 'em whatever ya want. I think some of them thumb their nose at logic (the logic that Trump is horrible) as a "fuck you" to the people calling them uneducated, racist, etc. 

So you think some of 'em have their feelings hurt and would vote against McDonald if smart people were nicer to them or accepted their views on race?

I know plenty of people without a formal education that are extremely smart. Especially in actual life activities. So I’d be careful making the leap from “uneducated” (which is indeed a cutdown as it’s not really true) to not smart. 

Halifax2TheMax said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Would it be fair to suggest the majority (or core) of his base is comprised of uneducated, white males?

Call 'em whatever ya want. I think some of them thumb their nose at logic (the logic that Trump is horrible) as a "fuck you" to the people calling them uneducated, racist, etc. 

So you think some of 'em have their feelings hurt and would vote against McDonald if smart people were nicer to them or accepted their views on race?

I know plenty of people without a formal education that are extremely smart. Especially in actual life activities. So I’d be careful making the leap from “uneducated” (which is indeed a cutdown as it’s not really true) to not smart. 

My father is one of the smartest men I know and has a grade 7 education. He's also smart enough to know a fraud when he sees one: he thinks Donald Trump (lol) is a f**king idiot.

You don't have to be smart to understand Donald Trump is a f**king idiot. You just have to be a little brighter than a gnat. Even the racist bastards who stand behind he guy realize he's a f**king idiot- they're just morally bankrupt and would stand behind Satan if he did their bidding.

So what do we call the “smart” people that still support Team Trump Treason? Moredeplorables? They’re smart enough to know better so what is it that motivates them and holds them steadfast in their support? Racism? Anti immigrant/other? Owning libs? Climate change deniability? The deplorables are too dumb to know better so they get a pass. But educated, repub elitists? What’s their excuse?
 

CM189191 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Would it be fair to suggest the majority (or core) of his base is comprised of uneducated, white males?

Call 'em whatever ya want. I think some of them thumb their nose at logic (the logic that Trump is horrible) as a "fuck you" to the people calling them uneducated, racist, etc. 

So you think some of 'em have their feelings hurt and would vote against McDonald if smart people were nicer to them or accepted their views on race?

I know plenty of people without a formal education that are extremely smart. Especially in actual life activities. So I’d be careful making the leap from “uneducated” (which is indeed a cutdown as it’s not really true) to not smart. 

My father is one of the smartest men I know and has a grade 7 education. He's also smart enough to know a fraud when he sees one: he thinks Donald Trump (lol) is a f**king idiot.

You don't have to be smart to understand Donald Trump is a f**king idiot. You just have to be a little brighter than a gnat. Even the racist bastards who stand behind he guy realize he's a f**king idiot- they're just morally bankrupt and would stand behind Satan if he did their bidding.

So what do we call the “smart” people that still support Team Trump Treason? Moredeplorables? They’re smart enough to know better so what is it that motivates them and holds them steadfast in their support? Racism? Anti immigrant/other? Owning libs? Climate change deniability? The deplorables are too dumb to know better so they get a pass. But educated, repub elitists? What’s their excuse?
 

We call them traitors, and they should be dealt with accordingly