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Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.0 -
No, you're wrong. The words are important. How do you not see that? You don't see the difference between "Caravan of refugees" and "Caravan of invaders"? You don't see the difference between "demand entry" and "request asylum"? Is this a joke?tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.0 -
So they are meandering to ask to be let in? And if the answer was "No", what do you think the reaction would be? They all going to meander back to where they came from?PJ_Soul said:
Who said you're not allowed to do something? I was just expressing my opinion about why using the term march in relation to this particular caravan doesn't work well. In this case, you already changed the "demanding"... All in all, your sentence, for some people reading it, carried an unfavorable subtext. Yes, these days, because of Trump rhetoric, language matters more than ever. You can do what you like with that.tempo_n_groove said:
That is silly... My two examples hold no weight then?PJ_Soul said:
The term march is a bad thing when the entire caravan is being spoken of in militaristic terms in general, by design. It's all about the larger context. "Marching" in the context of "invasion" is most definitely negative, so we should all try to avoid such language to counteract what Trump's trying to do with his propaganda, IMO.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes they are marching...PJ_Soul said:
Yes, why would anyone not be okay with people walking (not marching) up to the border with their little kids and asking for entry? That is when the US could document them all and start working to process them through the immigration/refugee system. But instead Trump wants to confront them with armed soldiers.tempo_n_groove said:mrussel1 said:
There's something in between no borders and stationing military there to open fire (which we all know is just Trump being an asshole). I'm not sure how they are "demanding" entry. Is it through a series of menacing notes, smoke signals, what? What is this entry demand you claim is happening? Or are you just using overstated verbs to make is sound scary? I know after Trump's presser yesterday, I'm definitely afraid for my white womenfolk.tempo_n_groove said:Something I am curious to ask this group.
Everyone here is ok with thousands of people marching up to the US border and demanding entry?
I'll ask in a different tone since you focused on a word rather than the question.
Is everyone ok with thousands of people marching up to the us border asking for entry?
Million man march... Woman's march etc etc... It's a march. A march isn't a bad thing...
Your solution is exactly what I had proposed earlier. I would like to document and accept them in. Vetting them might make it next to impossible but at least we could have something started.
Walk it is.
So far on AMT I learned I am not permitted to use the words March or Psycho.
My next thread is going to be about PC words that you can not say. That should get some blood boiling.
I certainly think they are walking (marching by the way is an entirely proper term to use...one of the definitions of marching is "walk or proceed quickly and with determination") and that they intend to enter the US however they have to. I seriously doubt they will turn around. So I see no issue with just stating march and demand in this case. But we will see if it's really "demand" won't we?hippiemom = goodness0 -
I don;t think that is a good comparison at all vs using "march" or "demand".tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.hippiemom = goodness0 -
You actually brought up the rock throwing. I would hope that neither side uses violence, there is no need for it.josevolution said:
But your stating as if it’s def going to happen? Now if they show up start getting violent then only then can there be a reaction from the soldiers..tempo_n_groove said:
Jose you answered me with a question and didn't really answer mine.josevolution said:
How are we to know why they are doing this and no one here has suggested that let’s just open the borders and let everyone in ! Let me ask you this are you ok with this administration stating that I’d be ok to shoot them if they throw rocks , or would you rather they start with attack dogs and water canons first and then move to bullets ..tempo_n_groove said:Something I am curious to ask this group.
Everyone here is ok with thousands of people marching up to the US border and demanding entry?
I'll ask this, "Why are they going to throw rocks at US soldiers?!?"
That wouldn't put them in a very good light.
The military there should be used to help organize lines and not look to creating a riot.
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I prefer “trudging to the border to request asylum.” Certain words inflame passions and that’s why they’re used. Regardless, Team Trump Treason hasn’t done anything to prevent what’s happening from happening or explain how the US intends to respond other than send troops. It’s a humanitarian crisis in the making and this time it’s not in some far away place but on our border. Have we lost our humanity? And you can bet that a President Obama or Clinton would have pulled their cabinet and military leaders together to figure out a humanitarian response, inclusive of marshaling the state department to work the levers of diplomacy and not be out on the campaign trail demonizing people and scaring whitey.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
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It's not all about you, lol. I also mention "stories and news gets a spin".PJ_Soul said:
Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
The news these days reports on other people reporting and it becomes it's own story all from focusing on a word.
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I prefer to say that they are “making steps in the general direction of the United States to have a light hearted conversation”. The words “walking” and “marching” are racist.tempo_n_groove said:
It's not all about you, lol. I also mention "stories and news gets a spin".PJ_Soul said:
Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
The news these days reports on other people reporting and it becomes it's own story all from focusing on a word.
Happens in sports, happens in politics, happens here.
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Like "invasion"?tempo_n_groove said:
It's not all about you, lol. I also mention "stories and news gets a spin".PJ_Soul said:
Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
The news these days reports on other people reporting and it becomes it's own story all from focusing on a word.
Happens in sports, happens in politics, happens here.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
That is definitely a "spin" on what is going on.PJ_Soul said:
Like "invasion"?tempo_n_groove said:
It's not all about you, lol. I also mention "stories and news gets a spin".PJ_Soul said:
Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
The news these days reports on other people reporting and it becomes it's own story all from focusing on a word.
Happens in sports, happens in politics, happens here.0 -
I'll say... but it's also helped to create what's going on. Words have a lot of power sometimes.tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a "spin" on what is going on.PJ_Soul said:
Like "invasion"?tempo_n_groove said:
It's not all about you, lol. I also mention "stories and news gets a spin".PJ_Soul said:
Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
The news these days reports on other people reporting and it becomes it's own story all from focusing on a word.
Happens in sports, happens in politics, happens here.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Certainly. But moreso from the President of the USA than a PJ messageboard poster without any history of trying to manipulate through word choice. Context.PJ_Soul said:
I'll say... but it's also helped to create what's going on. Words have a lot of power sometimes.tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a "spin" on what is going on.PJ_Soul said:
Like "invasion"?tempo_n_groove said:
It's not all about you, lol. I also mention "stories and news gets a spin".PJ_Soul said:
Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
The news these days reports on other people reporting and it becomes it's own story all from focusing on a word.
Happens in sports, happens in politics, happens here.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Indeed, but sometimes the words used on the PJ message board (and whoever else) are consciously or unconsciously influenced by the words of that President. That's what makes him so dangerous. He doesn't live in a bubble. He has an effect on the public. Plus, since we are here speaking with each other on a message board, words matter here too... more than anything else, actually.cincybearcat said:
Certainly. But moreso from the President of the USA than a PJ messageboard poster without any history of trying to manipulate through word choice. Context.PJ_Soul said:
I'll say... but it's also helped to create what's going on. Words have a lot of power sometimes.tempo_n_groove said:
That is definitely a "spin" on what is going on.PJ_Soul said:
Like "invasion"?tempo_n_groove said:
It's not all about you, lol. I also mention "stories and news gets a spin".PJ_Soul said:
Well I did answer the question too, lol. I think you're the one who made a big deal about me suggesting it's walking and not marching...tempo_n_groove said:
Very true but peoples panties get all up in bunches and harp on a word rather than answer the question asked. That is how stories/news gets a spin. Take something out of context and it becomes another story all in itself.tbergs said:Maybe if people cared more about the words coming out of their mouth and what they imply, then somebody like Trump would have been less acceptable as a president. Call it a ridiculous comparison, but I would wager that 50 years ago many balked at the idea of being told that "darkie" shouldn't be used when referring to "those" people.
The news these days reports on other people reporting and it becomes it's own story all from focusing on a word.
Happens in sports, happens in politics, happens here.
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tempo_n_groove said:
That is silly... My two examples hold no weight then?PJ_Soul said:
The term march is a bad thing when the entire caravan is being spoken of in militaristic terms in general, by design. It's all about the larger context. "Marching" in the context of "invasion" is most definitely negative, so we should all try to avoid such language to counteract what Trump's trying to do with his propaganda, IMO.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes they are marching...PJ_Soul said:
Yes, why would anyone not be okay with people walking (not marching) up to the border with their little kids and asking for entry? That is when the US could document them all and start working to process them through the immigration/refugee system. But instead Trump wants to confront them with armed soldiers.tempo_n_groove said:mrussel1 said:
There's something in between no borders and stationing military there to open fire (which we all know is just Trump being an asshole). I'm not sure how they are "demanding" entry. Is it through a series of menacing notes, smoke signals, what? What is this entry demand you claim is happening? Or are you just using overstated verbs to make is sound scary? I know after Trump's presser yesterday, I'm definitely afraid for my white womenfolk.tempo_n_groove said:Something I am curious to ask this group.
Everyone here is ok with thousands of people marching up to the US border and demanding entry?
I'll ask in a different tone since you focused on a word rather than the question.
Is everyone ok with thousands of people marching up to the us border asking for entry?
Million man march... Woman's march etc etc... It's a march. A march isn't a bad thing...
Your solution is exactly what I had proposed earlier. I would like to document and accept them in. Vetting them might make it next to impossible but at least we could have something started.
Walk it is.
So far on AMT I learned I am not permitted to use the words March or Psycho.
My next thread is going to be about PC words that you can not say. That should get some blood boiling.
WTF? No one said you couldn't use the word "psycho". You asked questions (or at least you appeared to) and people answered them. You seemed to be asking about actual diagnostic terms and how they fit. If that's not what you were doing, then fine, but don't go complaining that people answered what you asked.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
The people who are afraid of the "caravan " are the same people who are afraid of ms-13, antifa, and think the proud boys are true americanstbergs said:
Only a certain "base" of people are afraid of it. The horde will be upon them very soon.The Juggler said:People are still afraid of this thing? People can’t see through the obvious political stunt??
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Jade Heim is scary too.Bentleyspop said:
The people who are afraid of the "caravan " are the same people who are afraid of ms-13, antifa, and think the proud boys are true americanstbergs said:
Only a certain "base" of people are afraid of it. The horde will be upon them very soon.The Juggler said:People are still afraid of this thing? People can’t see through the obvious political stunt??
Come on. People.0 -
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