"I know they all look alike"

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edited November 2018 in A Moving Train
Potential 2020 Candidate.  Watch to the end.

https://youtu.be/_6U1Wmq-Ems

Clueless.  Out of touch.  Elitist.  Racist.

Nice attempt to cover for her.  "Well done".
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,125
    BOO!
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    Jeepers move on already!
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,092
    unsung said:
    Potential 2020 Candidate.  Watch to the end.

    https://youtu.be/_6U1Wmq-Ems

    Clueless.  Out of touch.  Elitist.  Racist.

    Nice attempt to cover for her.  "Well done".
    You just described the Baffoon to a T lol 
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  • CM189191
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    unsung said:
    Potential 2020 Candidate.  Watch to the end.

    https://youtu.be/_6U1Wmq-Ems

    Clueless.  Out of touch.  Elitist.  Racist.

    Nice attempt to cover for her.  "Well done".
    You know.... For some who claims not to be a racist, it seems like pretty big issue for you.

    Amazing how you stop talking about fiscal conservatism now that the blah man is out of office. 

    Quacks like a duck I guess ...
  • HesCalledDyer
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Roseanne and Megan Kelly lost their TV shows over stuff like this. 
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  • CM189191
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Roseanne and Megan Kelly lost their TV shows over stuff like this. 
    So Hillary should lose her TV show?

    Not sure where you're going with this...
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    CM189191 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Roseanne and Megan Kelly lost their TV shows over stuff like this. 
    So Hillary should lose her TV show?

    Not sure where you're going with this...
    They were deemed racist assholes. Should Hillary be deemed a racist asshole? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Hillary has a tv show? What cable plan do you guys have?
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary has a tv show? What cable plan do you guys have?
    Oh for Christ's sake, you know I'm saying that those two faced consequences for being deemed racist (I don't think they are) so I'm asking should Hillary face consequences for being racist here (which I don't think she is...but if a republican said the exact same thing...you'd be calling him/her racist)
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary has a tv show? What cable plan do you guys have?
    Oh for Christ's sake, you know I'm saying that those two faced consequences for being deemed racist (I don't think they are) so I'm asking should Hillary face consequences for being racist here (which I don't think she is...but if a republican said the exact same thing...you'd be calling him/her racist)
    I have to agree with you on Megan Kelly. I honestly don't believe her to be racist (although I haven't followed all of her gaffes, to be honest), I think she is just incredibly ignorant on history and racial issues. I have, in the past, held some simliar opinions as she has until I educated myself. I am not racist one iota. But I have been woefully ignorant on these issues in the past. 

    Roseanne? that planet of the apes comment was pretty damning. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary has a tv show? What cable plan do you guys have?
    Oh for Christ's sake, you know I'm saying that those two faced consequences for being deemed racist (I don't think they are) so I'm asking should Hillary face consequences for being racist here (which I don't think she is...but if a republican said the exact same thing...you'd be calling him/her racist)
    I have to agree with you on Megan Kelly. I honestly don't believe her to be racist (although I haven't followed all of her gaffes, to be honest), I think she is just incredibly ignorant on history and racial issues. I have, in the past, held some simliar opinions as she has until I educated myself. I am not racist one iota. But I have been woefully ignorant on these issues in the past. 

    Roseanne? that planet of the apes comment was pretty damning. 
    Yeah I guess so. I dunno. I've been trying to separate racist comments from actual institutional racism. I've been using Donald Sterling, the former owner of the Clippers as an example. They kicked him out of the league because his mistress audio-recorded him saying that he didn't want her hanging around the black players at the games. Sure that's racist. But NOW they throw him out of the league? About 15 years ago, he was sued for not renting to black people (he owned section 8 housing), and the Court ruled against him. THAT'S RACISIM. Real racism. But why didn't the NBA throw him out then? How are dumb racist comments taken more seriously than actual racism? 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary has a tv show? What cable plan do you guys have?
    Oh for Christ's sake, you know I'm saying that those two faced consequences for being deemed racist (I don't think they are) so I'm asking should Hillary face consequences for being racist here (which I don't think she is...but if a republican said the exact same thing...you'd be calling him/her racist)
    I have to agree with you on Megan Kelly. I honestly don't believe her to be racist (although I haven't followed all of her gaffes, to be honest), I think she is just incredibly ignorant on history and racial issues. I have, in the past, held some simliar opinions as she has until I educated myself. I am not racist one iota. But I have been woefully ignorant on these issues in the past. 

    Roseanne? that planet of the apes comment was pretty damning. 
    Yeah I guess so. I dunno. I've been trying to separate racist comments from actual institutional racism. I've been using Donald Sterling, the former owner of the Clippers as an example. They kicked him out of the league because his mistress audio-recorded him saying that he didn't want her hanging around the black players at the games. Sure that's racist. But NOW they throw him out of the league? About 15 years ago, he was sued for not renting to black people (he owned section 8 housing), and the Court ruled against him. THAT'S RACISIM. Real racism. But why didn't the NBA throw him out then? How are dumb racist comments taken more seriously than actual racism? 
    that is all optics and timing of the offence. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary has a tv show? What cable plan do you guys have?
    Oh for Christ's sake, you know I'm saying that those two faced consequences for being deemed racist (I don't think they are) so I'm asking should Hillary face consequences for being racist here (which I don't think she is...but if a republican said the exact same thing...you'd be calling him/her racist)
    I have to agree with you on Megan Kelly. I honestly don't believe her to be racist (although I haven't followed all of her gaffes, to be honest), I think she is just incredibly ignorant on history and racial issues. I have, in the past, held some simliar opinions as she has until I educated myself. I am not racist one iota. But I have been woefully ignorant on these issues in the past. 

    Roseanne? that planet of the apes comment was pretty damning. 
    Yeah I guess so. I dunno. I've been trying to separate racist comments from actual institutional racism. I've been using Donald Sterling, the former owner of the Clippers as an example. They kicked him out of the league because his mistress audio-recorded him saying that he didn't want her hanging around the black players at the games. Sure that's racist. But NOW they throw him out of the league? About 15 years ago, he was sued for not renting to black people (he owned section 8 housing), and the Court ruled against him. THAT'S RACISIM. Real racism. But why didn't the NBA throw him out then? How are dumb racist comments taken more seriously than actual racism? 
    that is all optics and timing of the offence. 
    With Sterling? So you're saying that the case against him from 15 years ago wasn't in the public eye so the other owners turned a blind eye but this recent comment blew up on social media and in this PC age he was fired because of it? If that's what's you're saying, I completely agree. 
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    It seems to me that Hillary is mocking racists with that statement.  She doesn't actually believe "they all look alike."  Come on people.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,014
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary has a tv show? What cable plan do you guys have?
    Oh for Christ's sake, you know I'm saying that those two faced consequences for being deemed racist (I don't think they are) so I'm asking should Hillary face consequences for being racist here (which I don't think she is...but if a republican said the exact same thing...you'd be calling him/her racist)
    I have to agree with you on Megan Kelly. I honestly don't believe her to be racist (although I haven't followed all of her gaffes, to be honest), I think she is just incredibly ignorant on history and racial issues. I have, in the past, held some simliar opinions as she has until I educated myself. I am not racist one iota. But I have been woefully ignorant on these issues in the past. 

    Roseanne? that planet of the apes comment was pretty damning. 
    Yeah I guess so. I dunno. I've been trying to separate racist comments from actual institutional racism. I've been using Donald Sterling, the former owner of the Clippers as an example. They kicked him out of the league because his mistress audio-recorded him saying that he didn't want her hanging around the black players at the games. Sure that's racist. But NOW they throw him out of the league? About 15 years ago, he was sued for not renting to black people (he owned section 8 housing), and the Court ruled against him. THAT'S RACISIM. Real racism. But why didn't the NBA throw him out then? How are dumb racist comments taken more seriously than actual racism? 
    that is all optics and timing of the offence. 
    With Sterling? So you're saying that the case against him from 15 years ago wasn't in the public eye so the other owners turned a blind eye but this recent comment blew up on social media and in this PC age he was fired because of it? If that's what's you're saying, I completely agree. 
    yep, that's what I'm saying
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  • oftenreading
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    A lot has changed in the last 15 years in terms of what is tolerated. It isn’t all social media “PC age”. Much of it needed to change, and there’s still a long way to go. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    It seems to me that Hillary is mocking racists with that statement.  She doesn't actually believe "they all look alike."  Come on people.
    Exactly.  Jesus Christ people are ignorant.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    oftenreading said:
    A lot has changed in the last 15 years in terms of what is tolerated. It isn’t all social media “PC age”. Much of it needed to change, and there’s still a long way to go. 
    I agree, not a big fan of "PC age". 
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  • brianlux
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    It seems to me that Hillary is mocking racists with that statement.  She doesn't actually believe "they all look alike."  Come on people.
    Exactly.  And obvious to most of us.  The only problem is, some people are just to serious about this kind of thing. 

    Anyone remember the song "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)"?  I saw Scott McKenzie perform that song at an anti-war (Vietnam era) rally on campus at San Francisco State in 1969 or '70.  After that song, he made some comments, mocking the racists who were perpetuating that war and somewhere in there in doing so used the term "slanty eyed people".  Well, a couple of very buff, very fierce, angry black dudes (I'm guessing they were 60's Black Panthers) rushed the stage with clenched fists and got right up in his face and said "What the f*** are you talking about?" McKenzie begged them to understand he was joking and that it was a put down on racists, not a racist comment.  I felt really sorry for the guy but at the same time could see that he made a poor choice of jokes in those circumstances with that crowd.  McKenzie went on to sing a couple more songs as planned but his voice shook throughout both.  Those kinds of jokes just don't go over well and very few people can pull that sort of thing off.  The smart thing do do is just don't do it.
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