Elizabeth Warren and Her Ancestry. Thoughts?

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

my2hands said:

You cant stop yourself from talking down to people

My2...

While some of your recent contrary points of view have more legitimacy than what many care to concede, I have to say you have not exactly been above talking down to people yourself. To be frank, you're a bit of a front runner in this department.

I am not speaking from any high horse here- I'm aware of my posts and how they might (or better yet should) be received with their dripping sarcasm.

He has...he wasn't the first...nor the second...nor the third.  Reached his breaking point and I'm enjoying it.

#TeamMy2Hands

Fair enough.

But once you jump into the ring and begin exchanging punches... you're not really in the position to speak to others' punches.

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

my2hands said:

You cant stop yourself from talking down to people

My2...

While some of your recent contrary points of view have more legitimacy than what many care to concede, I have to say you have not exactly been above talking down to people yourself. To be frank, you're a bit of a front runner in this department.

I am not speaking from any high horse here- I'm aware of my posts and how they might (or better yet should) be received with their dripping sarcasm.

He has...he wasn't the first...nor the second...nor the third.  Reached his breaking point and I'm enjoying it.

#TeamMy2Hands

Fair enough.

But once you jump into the ring and begin exchanging punches... you're not really in the position to speak to others' punches.

Sure you are...the best commentators are always ex-players! 

He's still playing though.

my2hands said:

Cincy and I go back to the Bush years up in here

#OG

Good times

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

my2hands said:

You cant stop yourself from talking down to people

My2...

While some of your recent contrary points of view have more legitimacy than what many care to concede, I have to say you have not exactly been above talking down to people yourself. To be frank, you're a bit of a front runner in this department.

I am not speaking from any high horse here- I'm aware of my posts and how they might (or better yet should) be received with their dripping sarcasm.

He has...he wasn't the first...nor the second...nor the third.  Reached his breaking point and I'm enjoying it.

#TeamMy2Hands

I'm #TeamMy2Hands too, but My2... ya gotta stop telling people to quit reading the news in the AMT forum. Reading the news is pretty much all this forum is based on, lol.

You just want your coffee date  

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Smellyman said:

my2hands said:

Smellyman said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

I don't understand why this is such a big deal.  Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.

It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation.  And that matters to a lot of voters.  Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon.  Optics.  

So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.  

I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years.  If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime.  Or do what I will do, move to Saturn. 

If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up.  No doubt about it.  Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.

So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit.  This is the kind of stuff America really wants.  Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.   

And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS.  Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!

Great strategy if she ran as a republican.

Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.

This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelected 

Elitism

Trump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS.  But i will vote for him out of spite.

I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base. 

I'm glad someone else said that. Because it is true, but anyone who suggests otherwise gets jumped on. I might have a different opinion on what the first 3 groups are though.
For anyone who still can't figure out why Trump won it was because of that in part. The blind corruption and cover-ups that goes on in DC. And not that Trump or even the republican party is free from that, but a vote for a change was a vote that we weren't okay with the IRS targeting individuals for their beliefs and so on.
But what I can't figure out is how everything political is completely ignored (not only ignored, but years later still a put down if you are interested in anything IRS, Bengahzi, obstruction of FBI investigation, etc), and anyone who voted for Trump is automatically racist and sexist. And it is my belief that those in the middle, who were the deciding factor in the last election, won't change if those labels continue for reasons that you said.

And before you accuse me of jumping down your throat or trying to bully you or stifle debate, read what I’m posting and read the link I’ve posted. This is the shit that drives me crazy. I’m assuming that you’re referring to the IRS “politically motivated audits of conservative 501cs and not individuals (just trying to be sure we’re on the same page)? If the former, and not the latter, it’s been debunked as a lie. Not by liberal talking heads or a spin machine but by multiple investigations based in facts. And yet, you believe it wasn’t the “change people were looking for.” If it were true, I’d agree with you. But it’s not true. Full stop. You then mention Benghazi. Four separate investigations that lasted years with Hillary testifying for 18-20 hours over two days. What came of it? Any indictments? No, four Americans were killed and the administration got the details wrong in the haze of war. Yet, both sides are the same, Washington is corrupt. Meanwhile, Obama is vilified as the second coming of the devil and yet is so squeaky clean was that the worst they could come up with is his association with Reverend Wright. Meanwhile, Team Trump Treason has spent his lifetime fucking over people, showing his racist tendencies and sexually assualting women and “he’s automatically racist.” Well, guess fucking what? He is! So you know what? It’s wrong to support Team Trump Treason, the guy who lies on average 9 times a day, the guy who believes there were “decent people” on both sides, the guy who thinks it’s okay for his Saudi patron to murder a journalist, the guy who mocks the less fortunate and victims of sexual assault and the guy who encourages violence. You’re wrong and your opinion is wrong. Stop believing the lies and the memes. This interfering with the FBI investigation? What about it? Ever occur to you with a repub President that chants “lock her up,” a repub congress with investigative and subpoena power and a fuck wad partisan hack in AG Sessions that there is no there, there? Yet, you seem to believe “both sides are the same?” 

And remember, it’s not personal. I just think you’re wrong because the facts bear it out. I’m not attacking you personally, just your opinion. If I hurt your feelings or you feel like I jumped down your throat or bullied you or stifled your debate, I’m sorry but that’s on you.

https://www.newsweek.com/remember-irs-scandal-it-was-fake-news-all-along-681674

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Smellyman said:

my2hands said:

Smellyman said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

I don't understand why this is such a big deal.  Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.

It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation.  And that matters to a lot of voters.  Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon.  Optics.  

So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.  

I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years.  If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime.  Or do what I will do, move to Saturn. 

If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up.  No doubt about it.  Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.

So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit.  This is the kind of stuff America really wants.  Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.   

And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS.  Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!

Great strategy if she ran as a republican.

Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.

This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelected 

Elitism

Trump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS.  But i will vote for him out of spite.

I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base. 

I'm glad someone else said that. Because it is true, but anyone who suggests otherwise gets jumped on. I might have a different opinion on what the first 3 groups are though.
For anyone who still can't figure out why Trump won it was because of that in part. The blind corruption and cover-ups that goes on in DC. And not that Trump or even the republican party is free from that, but a vote for a change was a vote that we weren't okay with the IRS targeting individuals for their beliefs and so on.
But what I can't figure out is how everything political is completely ignored (not only ignored, but years later still a put down if you are interested in anything IRS, Bengahzi, obstruction of FBI investigation, etc), and anyone who voted for Trump is automatically racist and sexist. And it is my belief that those in the middle, who were the deciding factor in the last election, won't change if those labels continue for reasons that you said.

And before you accuse me of jumping down your throat or trying to bully you or stifle debate, read what I’m posting and read the link I’ve posted. This is the shit that drives me crazy. I’m assuming that you’re referring to the IRS “politically motivated audits of conservative 501cs and not individuals (just trying to be sure we’re on the same page)? If the former, and not the latter, it’s been debunked as a lie. Not by liberal talking heads or a spin machine but by multiple investigations based in facts. And yet, you believe it wasn’t the “change people were looking for.” If it were true, I’d agree with you. But it’s not true. Full stop. You then mention Benghazi. Four separate investigations that lasted years with Hillary testifying for 18-20 hours over two days. What came of it? Any indictments? No, four Americans were killed and the administration got the details wrong in the haze of war. Yet, both sides are the same, Washington is corrupt. Meanwhile, Obama is vilified as the second coming of the devil and yet is so squeaky clean was that the worst they could come up with is his association with Reverend Wright. Meanwhile, Team Trump Treason has spent his lifetime fucking over people, showing his racist tendencies and sexually assualting women and “he’s automatically racist.” Well, guess fucking what? He is! So you know what? It’s wrong to support Team Trump Treason, the guy who lies on average 9 times a day, the guy who believes there were “decent people” on both sides, the guy who thinks it’s okay for his Saudi patron to murder a journalist, the guy who mocks the less fortunate and victims of sexual assault and the guy who encourages violence. You’re wrong and your opinion is wrong. Stop believing the lies and the memes. This interfering with the FBI investigation? What about it? Ever occur to you with a repub President that chants “lock her up,” a repub congress with investigative and subpoena power and a fuck wad partisan hack in AG Sessions that there is no there, there? Yet, you seem to believe “both sides are the same?” 

And remember, it’s not personal. I just think you’re wrong because the facts bear it out. I’m not attacking you personally, just your opinion. If I hurt your feelings or you feel like I jumped down your throat or bullied you or stifled your debate, I’m sorry but that’s on you.

https://www.newsweek.com/remember-irs-scandal-it-was-fake-news-all-along-681674

Hahahaha the last paragraph reeks of “no, it really is you”. 

Then facts don’t matter when forming an opinion? We might as well just believe everything Team Trump Treason and the repubs say as god honest truth and blindly follow along? Madness.
 

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Smellyman said:

my2hands said:

Smellyman said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

I don't understand why this is such a big deal.  Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.

It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation.  And that matters to a lot of voters.  Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon.  Optics.  

So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.  

I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years.  If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime.  Or do what I will do, move to Saturn. 

If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up.  No doubt about it.  Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.

So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit.  This is the kind of stuff America really wants.  Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.   

And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS.  Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!

Great strategy if she ran as a republican.

Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.

This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelected 

Elitism

Trump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS.  But i will vote for him out of spite.

I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base. 

I'm glad someone else said that. Because it is true, but anyone who suggests otherwise gets jumped on. I might have a different opinion on what the first 3 groups are though.
For anyone who still can't figure out why Trump won it was because of that in part. The blind corruption and cover-ups that goes on in DC. And not that Trump or even the republican party is free from that, but a vote for a change was a vote that we weren't okay with the IRS targeting individuals for their beliefs and so on.
But what I can't figure out is how everything political is completely ignored (not only ignored, but years later still a put down if you are interested in anything IRS, Bengahzi, obstruction of FBI investigation, etc), and anyone who voted for Trump is automatically racist and sexist. And it is my belief that those in the middle, who were the deciding factor in the last election, won't change if those labels continue for reasons that you said.

And before you accuse me of jumping down your throat or trying to bully you or stifle debate, read what I’m posting and read the link I’ve posted. This is the shit that drives me crazy. I’m assuming that you’re referring to the IRS “politically motivated audits of conservative 501cs and not individuals (just trying to be sure we’re on the same page)? If the former, and not the latter, it’s been debunked as a lie. Not by liberal talking heads or a spin machine but by multiple investigations based in facts. And yet, you believe it wasn’t the “change people were looking for.” If it were true, I’d agree with you. But it’s not true. Full stop. You then mention Benghazi. Four separate investigations that lasted years with Hillary testifying for 18-20 hours over two days. What came of it? Any indictments? No, four Americans were killed and the administration got the details wrong in the haze of war. Yet, both sides are the same, Washington is corrupt. Meanwhile, Obama is vilified as the second coming of the devil and yet is so squeaky clean was that the worst they could come up with is his association with Reverend Wright. Meanwhile, Team Trump Treason has spent his lifetime fucking over people, showing his racist tendencies and sexually assualting women and “he’s automatically racist.” Well, guess fucking what? He is! So you know what? It’s wrong to support Team Trump Treason, the guy who lies on average 9 times a day, the guy who believes there were “decent people” on both sides, the guy who thinks it’s okay for his Saudi patron to murder a journalist, the guy who mocks the less fortunate and victims of sexual assault and the guy who encourages violence. You’re wrong and your opinion is wrong. Stop believing the lies and the memes. This interfering with the FBI investigation? What about it? Ever occur to you with a repub President that chants “lock her up,” a repub congress with investigative and subpoena power and a fuck wad partisan hack in AG Sessions that there is no there, there? Yet, you seem to believe “both sides are the same?” 

And remember, it’s not personal. I just think you’re wrong because the facts bear it out. I’m not attacking you personally, just your opinion. If I hurt your feelings or you feel like I jumped down your throat or bullied you or stifled your debate, I’m sorry but that’s on you.

https://www.newsweek.com/remember-irs-scandal-it-was-fake-news-all-along-681674

Hahahaha the last paragraph reeks of “no, it really is you”. 

Did you happen to catch where I said if it was true I’d agree with him? And did you read the link before responding?
 

If I hurt your feelings or you feel like I jumped down your throat or bullied you or stifled your debate, I’m sorry but that’s on you.

I said the last paragraph. Wtf are you talking about? 

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Smellyman said:

my2hands said:

Smellyman said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

I don't understand why this is such a big deal.  Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.

It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation.  And that matters to a lot of voters.  Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon.  Optics.  

So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.  

I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years.  If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime.  Or do what I will do, move to Saturn. 

If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up.  No doubt about it.  Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.

So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit.  This is the kind of stuff America really wants.  Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.   

And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS.  Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!

Great strategy if she ran as a republican.

Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.

This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelected 

Elitism

Trump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS.  But i will vote for him out of spite.

I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base. 

I'm glad someone else said that. Because it is true, but anyone who suggests otherwise gets jumped on. I might have a different opinion on what the first 3 groups are though.
For anyone who still can't figure out why Trump won it was because of that in part. The blind corruption and cover-ups that goes on in DC. And not that Trump or even the republican party is free from that, but a vote for a change was a vote that we weren't okay with the IRS targeting individuals for their beliefs and so on.
But what I can't figure out is how everything political is completely ignored (not only ignored, but years later still a put down if you are interested in anything IRS, Bengahzi, obstruction of FBI investigation, etc), and anyone who voted for Trump is automatically racist and sexist. And it is my belief that those in the middle, who were the deciding factor in the last election, won't change if those labels continue for reasons that you said.

And before you accuse me of jumping down your throat or trying to bully you or stifle debate, read what I’m posting and read the link I’ve posted. This is the shit that drives me crazy. I’m assuming that you’re referring to the IRS “politically motivated audits of conservative 501cs and not individuals (just trying to be sure we’re on the same page)? If the former, and not the latter, it’s been debunked as a lie. Not by liberal talking heads or a spin machine but by multiple investigations based in facts. And yet, you believe it wasn’t the “change people were looking for.” If it were true, I’d agree with you. But it’s not true. Full stop. You then mention Benghazi. Four separate investigations that lasted years with Hillary testifying for 18-20 hours over two days. What came of it? Any indictments? No, four Americans were killed and the administration got the details wrong in the haze of war. Yet, both sides are the same, Washington is corrupt. Meanwhile, Obama is vilified as the second coming of the devil and yet is so squeaky clean was that the worst they could come up with is his association with Reverend Wright. Meanwhile, Team Trump Treason has spent his lifetime fucking over people, showing his racist tendencies and sexually assualting women and “he’s automatically racist.” Well, guess fucking what? He is! So you know what? It’s wrong to support Team Trump Treason, the guy who lies on average 9 times a day, the guy who believes there were “decent people” on both sides, the guy who thinks it’s okay for his Saudi patron to murder a journalist, the guy who mocks the less fortunate and victims of sexual assault and the guy who encourages violence. You’re wrong and your opinion is wrong. Stop believing the lies and the memes. This interfering with the FBI investigation? What about it? Ever occur to you with a repub President that chants “lock her up,” a repub congress with investigative and subpoena power and a fuck wad partisan hack in AG Sessions that there is no there, there? Yet, you seem to believe “both sides are the same?” 

And remember, it’s not personal. I just think you’re wrong because the facts bear it out. I’m not attacking you personally, just your opinion. If I hurt your feelings or you feel like I jumped down your throat or bullied you or stifled your debate, I’m sorry but that’s on you.

https://www.newsweek.com/remember-irs-scandal-it-was-fake-news-all-along-681674

Hahahaha the last paragraph reeks of “no, it really is you”. 

Did you happen to catch where I said if it was true I’d agree with him? And did you read the link before responding?
 

If I hurt your feelings or you feel like I jumped down your throat or bullied you or stifled your debate, I’m sorry but that’s on you.

I said the last paragraph. Wtf are you talking about? 

How many times did I have to tell you, Cincy, that, “it’s not personal?” I haven’t met any of you guys and gals on here and yet everyone takes what I say in response “personally.”
 

Ummm, ok I was laughing at how that last paragraph sounded...

instead of “it’s nit you it’s me” it was the “no, it really is you”. I thought it was funny. So ......unsure where you are going with these posts to me.

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Smellyman said:

my2hands said:

Smellyman said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

I don't understand why this is such a big deal.  Of all the things we could complain about most politicians... wow.

It's not a big deal in reality....but when talking about elections you have to look at the optics of the situation.  And that matters to a lot of voters.  Part of the reason why JFK beat Nixon.  Optics.  

So while it doesn't matter to me more than issues, I'm betting it will to plenty of voters.  

I really don't think voters will be focused on this petty issue in two years.  If they are, and they re-elect Trump, then the idiot voters get what they deserve and the rest of us have to live in the same pool of slime.  Or do what I will do, move to Saturn. 

If Warren is the nominee it will certainly come up.  No doubt about it.  Teflon Don has a way of being awful and still making others pay for the 1 time they lied or were awful....I don;t get it, but I've seen it too many times to discount it anymore.

So maybe EW should just learn to grab willies, treat men like dirt, use the word "billions" over and over and over, talk about how she really had just hoped she didn't have any of that dirty injun blood in her, and say and tweet stupid shit.  This is the kind of stuff America really wants.  Maybe then she would have a chance to become POTUS.   

And come up with a clever acronym/ slogan like, KARS.  Keep American Ridiculously Stupid!

Great strategy if she ran as a republican.

Dem voters have cognitive ability above neanderthal though.

This is what got him elected, and this is what is going to get him reelected 

Elitism

Trump may be a moron, racist, bigot, misogynist, narcissist, sexual predator, liar, tax evader, traitor, treasonous POS.  But i will vote for him out of spite.

I felt this way in 2016 but just couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. Maybe I will in 2020...if people keep looking down their noses at Trump supporters because that is pretty annoying to see. Trump supporters either had a good reason to vote for him (maybe they're just conservative and want conservatism to "trump" liberalism), were duped (really bought that he's a great businessman), or are just entertained by him (he can be funny sometimes). I think those are the three main groups of Trump voters. I think the racist or sexist voters turned on by Trump (cause there's definitely some) are the minority of his voting base. 

I'm glad someone else said that. Because it is true, but anyone who suggests otherwise gets jumped on. I might have a different opinion on what the first 3 groups are though.
For anyone who still can't figure out why Trump won it was because of that in part. The blind corruption and cover-ups that goes on in DC. And not that Trump or even the republican party is free from that, but a vote for a change was a vote that we weren't okay with the IRS targeting individuals for their beliefs and so on.
But what I can't figure out is how everything political is completely ignored (not only ignored, but years later still a put down if you are interested in anything IRS, Bengahzi, obstruction of FBI investigation, etc), and anyone who voted for Trump is automatically racist and sexist. And it is my belief that those in the middle, who were the deciding factor in the last election, won't change if those labels continue for reasons that you said.

And before you accuse me of jumping down your throat or trying to bully you or stifle debate, read what I’m posting and read the link I’ve posted. This is the shit that drives me crazy. I’m assuming that you’re referring to the IRS “politically motivated audits of conservative 501cs and not individuals (just trying to be sure we’re on the same page)? If the former, and not the latter, it’s been debunked as a lie. Not by liberal talking heads or a spin machine but by multiple investigations based in facts. And yet, you believe it wasn’t the “change people were looking for.” If it were true, I’d agree with you. But it’s not true. Full stop. You then mention Benghazi. Four separate investigations that lasted years with Hillary testifying for 18-20 hours over two days. What came of it? Any indictments? No, four Americans were killed and the administration got the details wrong in the haze of war. Yet, both sides are the same, Washington is corrupt. Meanwhile, Obama is vilified as the second coming of the devil and yet is so squeaky clean was that the worst they could come up with is his association with Reverend Wright. Meanwhile, Team Trump Treason has spent his lifetime fucking over people, showing his racist tendencies and sexually assualting women and “he’s automatically racist.” Well, guess fucking what? He is! So you know what? It’s wrong to support Team Trump Treason, the guy who lies on average 9 times a day, the guy who believes there were “decent people” on both sides, the guy who thinks it’s okay for his Saudi patron to murder a journalist, the guy who mocks the less fortunate and victims of sexual assault and the guy who encourages violence. You’re wrong and your opinion is wrong. Stop believing the lies and the memes. This interfering with the FBI investigation? What about it? Ever occur to you with a repub President that chants “lock her up,” a repub congress with investigative and subpoena power and a fuck wad partisan hack in AG Sessions that there is no there, there? Yet, you seem to believe “both sides are the same?” 

And remember, it’s not personal. I just think you’re wrong because the facts bear it out. I’m not attacking you personally, just your opinion. If I hurt your feelings or you feel like I jumped down your throat or bullied you or stifled your debate, I’m sorry but that’s on you.

https://www.newsweek.com/remember-irs-scandal-it-was-fake-news-all-along-681674

Quit using your darn facts.  I will vote for Trump if you keep throwing them in my face.