2020 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    Milestone said:
    I hate to always point it out, there's about sixty million people within a 4 hour drive from NYC. No other city in NA is as populated nor as centrally located among other large cities. 
    I do not feel sorry for NYC concert-goers, whatsoever.  You get the best of the best.  For all bands.  For all sports. For entertainment of any kind, for that matter. 



    I'm not asking for empathy. I'll happily drive a couple hours to see them. But choosing obstructed view stadium shows in Boston is silly.

    As smart businesspeople, play where the majority of fans are who will spend a majority of the money on your band, while limiting travel and costs of building and tearing down stage sets constantly.

    And your comment is simply not true regarding pearl jam. They never play enough dates in NYC to satisfy demand. Not only is the NY metro area much bigger than any other in the US, it is a short drive from many other large metropolitan areas.

    Reach the most fans, maximize revenue, lower cost and limit travel.
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    seeing PJ at MSG is on my bucket list so I am cool with this.

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,969
    lolobugg said:
    seeing PJ at MSG is on my bucket list so I am cool with this.
    Seeing PJ at MSG is still on my bucket list and I’ve seen them 10 times there already.  Bring on more shows!
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  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    Milestone said:
    I hate to always point it out, there's about sixty million people within a 4 hour drive from NYC. No other city in NA is as populated nor as centrally located among other large cities. 
    I do not feel sorry for NYC concert-goers, whatsoever.  You get the best of the best.  For all bands.  For all sports. For entertainment of any kind, for that matter. 



    I'm not asking for empathy. I'll happily drive a couple hours to see them. But choosing obstructed view stadium shows in Boston is silly.

    As smart businesspeople, play where the majority of fans are who will spend a majority of the money on your band, while limiting travel and costs of building and tearing down stage sets constantly.

    And your comment is simply not true regarding pearl jam. They never play enough dates in NYC to satisfy demand. Not only is the NY metro area much bigger than any other in the US, it is a short drive from many other large metropolitan areas.

    Reach the most fans, maximize revenue, lower cost and limit travel.
    I hear ya.  But not everyone is Billy Joel. He might be the only one meeting NYC's demands. 
    I'm pretty sure that PJ doesn't play enough in any city to meet demand.  They barely play their own hometown.
    Considering "reaching the most fans, maximizing revenue, and lowering cost and limiting travel".... they may as well do a year long Las Vegas residency.  Because we'd travel.  
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  • They never play enough anywhere.  That's part of why it is always a treat to see them.  NYC is no different from any other place in terms of this.
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  • RT85129
    RT85129 Posts: 183

    Hope Atlanta gets a 2019 visit.  Two shows in eighteen years.  Also hope Raleigh gets a look as well!

  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,969
    RT85129 said:

    Hope Atlanta gets a 2019 visit.  Two shows in eighteen years.  Also hope Raleigh gets a look as well!

    I’m in on Atlanta.  Fairly easy road trip from NJ.  
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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,620
    RT85129 said:

    Hope Atlanta gets a 2019 visit.  Two shows in eighteen years.  Also hope Raleigh gets a look as well!

    Yes. On board. 
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  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Play Houston
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    They likely won't since it has been 18 years, but I would love to see them play Vegas again.
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  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    edited October 2018
    JimmyV said:
    They likely won't since it has been 18 years, but I would love to see them play Vegas again.
    12 years and three presidents ago. Been a long time. Ed bitched about Vegas at the 2006 SD show and how it was an awful day there. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    kst said:
    They never play enough anywhere.  That's part of why it is always a treat to see them.  NYC is no different from any other place in terms of this.

    True but there are some European locales that dont sell. Im recalling reading about shows from italy maybe ten years ago where fans were discussing it was nearly half empty and they were frustrated security wouldn't let them closer.

    Generally speaking, i agree, they are the toughest ticket in rock with their popularity and rigid ticketing system. Combine that with their obvious desire to limit their days on the road to about two months every other year, playing stadiums and festivals is limiting access for fans 

    Its simply not fair to ask fans their age to stand for 7 plus hours at a festival, with a shortened setlist and possibly half the crowd are casual or uninterested fans.

    Stadiums are even worse choices to maximize exposure to fans and be profitable

    They needed 5-6 days to play two shows at fenway? A small city in the corner of the country with tons of obstructed views. They invested 10 to 12 days in chicago and boston this year for four shows with the majority of fans a mile away or obstructed views. They are not exactly maximizing their time on the road or profit potential. 

    Residencies in nyc or la or chicago will limit their travel, limit days away from family, limit their cost and maximize the best potential views and most available tickets for fans. And make it easier for family to stay with them on the road. Arenas will maximize their ability to charge more, which is only fair considering they are limiting their public appearances from here on out

    Phish, The Allmans and many others figured this out.




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  • Drdeal
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    on2legs said:
    lolobugg said:
    seeing PJ at MSG is on my bucket list so I am cool with this.
    Seeing PJ at MSG is still on my bucket list and I’ve seen them 10 times there already.  Bring on more shows!
    U2 did 8 MSG shows three years ago. Its time for PJ to do that. 
  • ponner1us
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    edited October 2018
    Milestone said:
    JimmyV said:
    They likely won't since it has been 18 years, but I would love to see them play Vegas again.
    12 years and three presidents ago. Been a long time. Ed bitched about Vegas at the 2006 SD show and how it was an awful day there. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
    He probably bitched and said it was an awful day because he was really sick. I remember because I traveled from PA to Vegas and Ed said they almost cancelled because he was so bad. Flu and sore throat if I’m remembering right. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    Drdeal said:
    on2legs said:
    lolobugg said:
    seeing PJ at MSG is on my bucket list so I am cool with this.
    Seeing PJ at MSG is still on my bucket list and I’ve seen them 10 times there already.  Bring on more shows!
    U2 did 8 MSG shows three years ago. Its time for PJ to do that. 


    Since they have been drastically cutting back, residencies make the most sense. NYC gives about 20% of the country very reasonable access 

    Add a handful of other cities, LA, Atl and Stl, do about 5 shows in each with maybe 10 in nyc. If we are all going to travel anyway, why does the band go thru the expense of transporting, building and tearing down the set on a daily basis? And stadiums take just too many days away from home to set up. 

    Summer residencies also allow their families to tag along. Vegas would be fun, but its in the middle of nowhere. At least make an attempt to put the shows as close to the most fans possible.
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    I hope residencies never happen. Anywhere. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    bbiggs said:
    I hope residencies never happen. Anywhere. 

    Agreed.  I love the travel aspect of the tour the most.  I get the appeal though. 

  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    I hope Pearl Jam makes an album that really stretches them and his some significant risk of failure.  I'm not going to turn down another LB or BS but the world does not need it.