Best American Rock Band Ever

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  • cwoycheese
    cwoycheese Springfield, Missouri Posts: 29
    The Doors were so short lived.  Too bad Jim fell apart as he was a talented writer. 
  • cwoycheese
    cwoycheese Springfield, Missouri Posts: 29
    Pixies are pretty good too. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    If Shannon Hoon hadn't died after only two incredible albums, I'd probably be saying Blind Melon.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    hugepjfan said:
    Aerosmith is terrible and I knew that that would be mentioned because I debate that at work with a dude all the time but you're entitled to that opinion. GD I didn't think of, good call there.fleetwood a little too short lived. Metallica is interesting. I don't like them but they have their own following.. I don't think they they  are all that involved with community and are greedy. But they are are a classic American band. Can't argue that. 
    I like Aerosmith a lot!

    I'll throw out another vote for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

    I also think GnR fits the criteria... except the charity part?? I have no clue if they ever did stuff like that.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited August 2018
    CP218430 said:
    Springtsteen/E Street, Petty/Heartbreakers (which I could as bands), The Dead and Pearl Jam. Bob Dylan is the greatest American Artist, not a challenger in my book but that's just my opinion. 

    Looks like there's pretty solid consensus around Springsteen, Petty, and the Dead. I can't argue with that (even though I'm still not a Bruce fan).

    I'm not getting the CCR/ Aerosmith mentions. Look at it as the flip side of "GTFO with that 21 PIlots/ Imagine Dragons nonsense." Does anyone under 30 know who CCR is? I bet they know who Springsteen is, and they know who Petty is; they might know who Steven Tyler is, but not for the right reasons. I really only know about CCR because my parents had one of their albums, Creedence Gold, and I as a small child was fascinated by the album cover. I'm nearly fifty. I'm absolutely certain that neither of my adult children knows who CCR is -- and one of my kids is a musician.

    Kind of surprising that nobody has mentioned KISS -- ;)
    CCR was the biggest band of their day and Fogerty still packsthe house leaning heavy on CCR material. 

    Aerosmith as well and has there ever been a band with 2 separate blockbuster runs. 

    To deny either shows a high level of ignorance. Aerosmith is getting ready to set up camp in Vegas and stroll through an assortment of 4 dozen stone cold classics on a nightly basis. CCR material is as vital and meaningful  now as it’s ever been.


    Longevity is overrated. Most of the bands mentioned have their drawing power and influence from just a few albums and maybe a decade run at most. Something you can mention along with other achievements, but not nearly as important as peak years productivity imo. 


    Has Wilco been mentioned?
    Post edited by DewieCox on
  • PettyHead
    PettyHead Erie, PA Posts: 128
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,235
    edited August 2018
    DewieCox said:
    Tool,  Black Crowes and STP need a mention.

    Jack White would be another if we count all his projects and he’s much more of the main creative force in his bands than Cornell.

    If im being objective I don’t think PJ quite cracks the top 5, but probably top 10, going by overall success, studio work, live reputation, and influence. I don’t bring activism or charity into the discussion. Nice that they do it, but doesn’t make them a better band.

    Bruce
    Dead
    Petty
    CCR
    Aerosmith

    ....would be hard to crack that top 5

    Allman’s 
    Skynyrd
    Hendrix
    Chili Pepper
    Surprised it took this long for someone to mention Jimi Hendrix. And, so far, the ONLY one. And now me.

    Hendrix didn't have the longevity, obviously, but he's still influential today and will be this time in the year 3018.
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  • LN241653
    LN241653 Cambridge Posts: 163
    Rage anyone? Longevity is a no but the impact they had was huge and the music is just superb, I’d throw system of a down in their too.

    bruce
    pj
    rage
    soundgarden
    black crowes
    faith no more?????
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    CP218430 said:
    Springtsteen/E Street, Petty/Heartbreakers (which I could as bands), The Dead and Pearl Jam. Bob Dylan is the greatest American Artist, not a challenger in my book but that's just my opinion. 

    Looks like there's pretty solid consensus around Springsteen, Petty, and the Dead. I can't argue with that (even though I'm still not a Bruce fan).

    I'm not getting the CCR/ Aerosmith mentions. Look at it as the flip side of "GTFO with that 21 PIlots/ Imagine Dragons nonsense." Does anyone under 30 know who CCR is? I bet they know who Springsteen is, and they know who Petty is; they might know who Steven Tyler is, but not for the right reasons. I really only know about CCR because my parents had one of their albums, Creedence Gold, and I as a small child was fascinated by the album cover. I'm nearly fifty. I'm absolutely certain that neither of my adult children knows who CCR is -- and one of my kids is a musician.

    Kind of surprising that nobody has mentioned KISS -- ;)
    Overall, what does anyone under 30 (generalization) know about Best American Rock Band Ever?
    Aerosmith and CCR crush most of the bands getting 2-3 citations.  Crush 
    Look at record sales.  Look at number of hits.  Look at how long their music has been played.
    I'm sorry but I totally agree that Imagine Dragons and 21 Pilots have no space in the top 30.  (Probably in the top 130, though.)
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    edited August 2018
    I'm not totally sure I've ever even heard of 21 Pilots, and I'm not an old fogie who doesn't listen to new music.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • I don't think any surpass, but a few that are up there:

    Bruce and E Street
    The Dead
    The Band
    Allman Bros.
    Wilco
    Foo Fighters

  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    The Band is from Canada... although I love em (they formed there at least(
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    I went and listened to a couple of songs by 21 Pilots (their top one has nearly 1 BILLION plays on Spotify, and they have 14+ Million listeners/month. That's a lot!). Meh. They might be okay - it's just not my style of music.... But that's not even a rock band as far as I can tell. They fall pretty solidly into the pop category IMO.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    3 pages and not one person mentions Boston in the discussion? 

    you’re funny.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    hugepjfan said:
    I'd like to entertain arguments for other American bands that surpass PJ. I don't think anything comes close but I'm biased. What are the best American bands of all time? As far as pj is concerned: Front man, distinctive voice, check. Sales, check. Mind melting solos, check. Lyrics, check. Live, performances, check. Longevity,  check. Activism/charity, check. 
    Crowes

    front man: check
    sales: check
    solos: check; rich and (take your pick) marc or luther or jackie
    lyrics: kinda check
    live performances: double check
    longevity: check (til chris fucked it up)
    activism: not so much
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    I'm one who does not neccessanec think PJ is the best, but they are better than black crowes by a wide margin
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Why is Imagine Dragons even mentioned in a list with The Doors, Pearl Jam, REM, Nirvana, Aerosmith, etc?

    IMO....ID are fucking terrible.  

    Thunder, thu thu thunder, lightning and the thunder. Thunder, thu thu thunder,  lightning and the thunder.

    Then there is the car commercial song....believer.  "a wubba-day wubba-day, hibbida dibbida, hummina hummina, boppity bippity."

    End rant.

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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,063
    edited August 2018
    Vedd Hedd said:  "a wubba-day wubba-day, hibbida dibbida, hummina hummina, boppity bippity."

    Is that an Imagine Dragons song or a lyric from Evenflow?