Does the left want to really disband ICE or...

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is it the alt-left that does?

What about now?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-30/?utm_source=ods&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1600d

ICE successfully removes Nazi camp guard

Overnight, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) carried out a 2004 order of deportation for Jakiw Palij, a former Nazi SS labor camp guard in German-occupied Poland. After World War II, Palij lied about being a Nazi and became a resident of Queens, New York.

Through extensive negotiations, President Trump and his team secured Palij’s deportation to Germany. Despite the 2004 removal order, past administrations were unsuccessful in expelling Palij from America. 

To protect the promise of freedom for Holocaust survivors and their families, President Trump prioritized the removal of Palij. His long-overdue deportation sends a strong message: The United States will not tolerate those who facilitated Nazi crimes and other human rights violations, and they will not find a safe haven on U.S. soil.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,474
    edited August 2018
    What kind of over simplistic cartoon written for kids do you live in and use as background for your reasoning?

    What does it matter?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Well when they march in the streets chanting, “No borders, no wall, no USA at all”, it would present a path for what could be considered a logical discussion.  I see you missed that path.  

    Also Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has made that part of her campaign.

    But hey, can’t pass up an opportunity to take a cheap shot at good ol unsung though, right?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    LOL, what a crock of shit:

    Palij had lied about being a Nazi and remained in the United States for decades. Palij’s removal sends a strong message:  The United States will not tolerate those who facilitated Nazi crimes and other human rights violations, and they will not find a safe haven on American soil.

    I'll give this admin its due if this becomes a pattern, not a one-off distracting PR stunt. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LOL, what a crock of shit:

    Palij had lied about being a Nazi and remained in the United States for decades. Palij’s removal sends a strong message:  The United States will not tolerate those who facilitated Nazi crimes and other human rights violations, and they will not find a safe haven on American soil.

    I'll give this admin its due if this becomes a pattern, not a one-off distracting PR stunt. 
    The difference here is that Palij interests Israel. American neo-Nazis do not.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,474
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    Well when they march in the streets chanting, “No borders, no wall, no USA at all”, it would present a path for what could be considered a logical discussion.  I see you missed that path.  

    Also Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has made that part of her campaign.

    But hey, can’t pass up an opportunity to take a cheap shot at good ol unsung though, right?
    I understand you are trolling, obviously. So no one here thinks I'm falling for this level of simple mindedness.

    And yes I know you think I should have been separated from my family when I was a child. And bla bla.

    But wanting to remove ICE doesn't mean you want nazis to stay in the country.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    ^^^The only one trolling in this thread is you...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LOL, what a crock of shit:

    Palij had lied about being a Nazi and remained in the United States for decades. Palij’s removal sends a strong message:  The United States will not tolerate those who facilitated Nazi crimes and other human rights violations, and they will not find a safe haven on American soil.

    I'll give this admin its due if this becomes a pattern, not a one-off distracting PR stunt. 
    Tough to make it a pattern since most are probably dead.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    unsung said:
    Well when they march in the streets chanting, “No borders, no wall, no USA at all”, it would present a path for what could be considered a logical discussion.  I see you missed that path.  

    Also Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has made that part of her campaign.

    But hey, can’t pass up an opportunity to take a cheap shot at good ol unsung though, right?
    I understand you are trolling, obviously. So no one here thinks I'm falling for this level of simple mindedness.

    And yes I know you think I should have been separated from my family when I was a child. And bla bla.

    But wanting to remove ICE doesn't mean you want nazis to stay in the country.
    Not when you were a child, just some time after hitting 26.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,474
    edited August 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    ^^^The only one trolling in this thread is you...
    How come?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,255
    Stop acting like this is the first time its happened or others haven't gone before this one. Oooooooooooooooo, those lefists.

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    ^^^missing the point
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,474
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    ^^^missing the point
    What point? What is your point, that is not reaching Hannity-style?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    reread title and post #1
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,255
    unsung said:
    ^^^missing the point
    My point is to answer your questions, which to both is, no, as evidenced by the past. Perhaps you could define the alt-left though?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Go Beavers
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LOL, what a crock of shit:

    Palij had lied about being a Nazi and remained in the United States for decades. Palij’s removal sends a strong message:  The United States will not tolerate those who facilitated Nazi crimes and other human rights violations, and they will not find a safe haven on American soil.

    I'll give this admin its due if this becomes a pattern, not a one-off distracting PR stunt. 
    “Fine people on both sides”
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,561
    unsung said:
    ^^^missing the point
    What happened to your point about wanting a smaller government? 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    LOL, what a crock of shit:

    Palij had lied about being a Nazi and remained in the United States for decades. Palij’s removal sends a strong message:  The United States will not tolerate those who facilitated Nazi crimes and other human rights violations, and they will not find a safe haven on American soil.

    I'll give this admin its due if this becomes a pattern, not a one-off distracting PR stunt. 
    Tough to make it a pattern since most are probably dead.
    I think he meant make it a pattern to do something about Nazis in general... The neo-Nazis/white nationalists in America are people that Trump refuses to denounce, and in a couple of instances he has basically praised them. He also has some in his cabinet. He also clearly values their support very much.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,474
    unsung said:
    reread title and post #1
    There is no point there. Just some sarcastic comment without any real-world relevance.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kev - Coat and Keys
    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    Don't most people want to get rid of ICE though?
    Reasons like making government smaller, things created in 2003 are not in the constitution, plus America did okay with Nazis pre-ICE, right?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    Don't most people want to get rid of ICE though?
    Reasons like making government smaller, things created in 2003 are not in the constitution, plus America did okay with Nazis pre-ICE, right?
    I think a reasonable, rational, in control ICE could be alright, but ICE isn't that right now. ICE is a fascist-like terror gang right now as far as I can tell, so getting rid of ICE simply sounds better than it carrying on as it is. That doesn't mean I would ever support open borders or anything like that, and I think there are very few who do, and even those who claim they do will never ever do something to make that happen - even they know it's impractical, and I think they only say stuff like that for PR/propaganda reasons.
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