Does the left want to really disband ICE or...
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Without government, who would remove the undocumented immigrants?
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White, Law abiding, armed, you leave me alone, I’ll leave you alone, good doers, why of course!my2hands said:Without government, who would remove the undocumented immigrants?
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my2hands said:Without government, who would remove the undocumented immigrants?
Riddle me that, Batman
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umm, ICE only took him into custody. Justice and State were primary in rhis.ICE is Homeland, right?BERLIN — The Nazi guard lived a quiet life in a racially diverse corner of New York City for decades, having lied on his United States immigration papers in 1949 about the type of work he did during World War II. But on Tuesday, he was deported to Germany, ending a 14-year battle to remove him from American soil.
The expulsion of the former guard, Jakiw Palij, rid the United States of the last known surviving Nazi war crimes suspect still residing in the country, bringing to a close a long-vexed effort by the government to deport him. It also handed President Trump, who had pressed strongly for Mr. Palij’s removal, a powerful talking point against critics of his immigration policies, by shifting the focus to the deportation of a man associated with the worst atrocities of the Holocaust instead of thousands of unauthorized immigrants whose stories are far more sympathetic.
Mr. Palij, 95, was first tracked down by investigators in 1993, and stripped of his American citizenship 10 years later when a federal judge found that he had falsely claimed in his visa application that he had worked on his father’s farm in Poland and at a German factory during the period when he was actually serving the Nazis at the Trawniki labor camp in occupied Poland.
In 2004, a federal immigration judge ordered that Mr. Palij be deported. But for years, American officials failed to persuade any country to accept a man born in what was once Poland and is now Ukraine, and who had served a murderous German regime.
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Just to answer the op's question:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/suspect-iowa-womans-slaying-hardworking-050313954.html
Autopsy finds Iowa student killed by 'sharp force injuries'
The president also said the suspect was "found by" agents from Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, an agency that some liberals have called for abolishing because of tactics they view as overly harsh. An ICE spokesman said Thursday that its agents worked with state and local investigators in "identifying, locating and interviewing the suspect."
Division of Criminal Investigation spokesman Mitch Mortvedt agreed that ICE played a "significant role" in the case, particularly in helping confirm Rivera's identity and immigration status.
My question is, what tactics is ICE doing that is overly harsh? Are they just doing their job and you don't like the results?
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They are conducting terror raids in minority communities, and in places of business.mcgruff10 said:Just to answer the op's question:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/suspect-iowa-womans-slaying-hardworking-050313954.html
Autopsy finds Iowa student killed by 'sharp force injuries'
The president also said the suspect was "found by" agents from Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, an agency that some liberals have called for abolishing because of tactics they view as overly harsh. An ICE spokesman said Thursday that its agents worked with state and local investigators in "identifying, locating and interviewing the suspect."
Division of Criminal Investigation spokesman Mitch Mortvedt agreed that ICE played a "significant role" in the case, particularly in helping confirm Rivera's identity and immigration status.
My question is, what tactics is ICE doing that is overly harsh? Are they just doing their job and you don't like the results?
Here, these are literally the first two links from my google search of "ICE raiding communities" (no idea what citylab is, but I know from memory that the incidents they're talking about happened). I have also seen reports on mainstream media since Trump took office about ICE just targeting minority neighborhoods and literally going door to door, pounding on the doors and forcing their ways into homes carrying guns and shit, just wreaking havoc on terrified people in their own homes, not even knowing who they are first. It's even resulted in legal immigrants being caught up in the system. I'm just hoping these few random articles at least present a start for you in terms of getting why some people are feeling pretty anti-ICE, even if they don't have anything against immigration enforcement measures in general (I'm one of those people). There's got to be a better, less traumatizing and inhumane way.
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/06/immigration-customs-enforcement-ice-raids-community-impact/563039/
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/immigration-raids-coming-to-a-store-near-you/550289/
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/12/us/tennessee-immigration-raid-schools-impact/index.html
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Here’s but one example of probably thousands.mcgruff10 said:Just to answer the op's question:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/suspect-iowa-womans-slaying-hardworking-050313954.html
Autopsy finds Iowa student killed by 'sharp force injuries'
The president also said the suspect was "found by" agents from Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, an agency that some liberals have called for abolishing because of tactics they view as overly harsh. An ICE spokesman said Thursday that its agents worked with state and local investigators in "identifying, locating and interviewing the suspect."
Division of Criminal Investigation spokesman Mitch Mortvedt agreed that ICE played a "significant role" in the case, particularly in helping confirm Rivera's identity and immigration status.
My question is, what tactics is ICE doing that is overly harsh? Are they just doing their job and you don't like the results?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/12/20/mit-custodian-detained-ice-released-from-jail/1YSl73BUGSRRuNcpL5Ar8O/story.html
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for separating families, and losing children, and having children die in custody? absolutely yes. needs to be completely gutted and and made new.
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I've had ice in my drinks in Mexico. I've never got sick. Actually I never gave it a second thought until now. Hmmm, not going to Mexico anytime soon.cincybearcat said:
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