This merch situation is really frustrating.

Vedd Hedd · August 2018

There were plenty of each poster at each merch station after the shows.

BSully · August 2018

I got in line at 10:30 today, as soon as the doors opened at noon, the line moved very quickly and I got a setlist shirt and the train poster.

2 hours well spent in my opinion, got to meet some new people while in line and got what I wanted...

Besides, I get to see Pearl Jam again tomorrow as well.

RC242143 · August 2018

Arrived at 4:50 pm yesterday at Wrigley, via Red Line Addison Station, walked pass the massive line for merch on the Right Field side of stadium, and went to the Left Field side where they were showing Let’s Play Two. Got in line at the 10 club entrance, there were 7 or 8 people in front of us. Gates opened at 5:30 pm, there is a merch stand right to your right when you get in the gates. There were only 15-20 people in front of me and I had all the Merch I wanted in less than 20 minutes. Everything will be there with the exception of setlist shirts.

tempo_n_groove · August 2018

myoung321 said:

It's time 10C did a package for ticket winners... no reason to make your dedicated fans stand in lines for hours when it can be easily streamlined - This will stop flippers from buying out merch before "normal" people can get anything.. gotten out of hand.

I was thinking about this.

Let's say 10C gets 5000 tickets for a particular show. They have been producing, up until now, about 2000 posters per show.

So if all the 10C members got posters and such there wouldn't be anything left for anyone else.

UmphreysJam34 · August 2018

Doesn’t Foo Fighters have a pre-order system? Or was that only for a few shows?

PB11041 · August 2018

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

ForceofNature101 · August 2018

HesCalledDyer said:

1upstate said:

myoung321 said:

It's time 10C did a package for ticket winners... no reason to make your dedicated fans stand in lines for hours when it can be easily streamlined - This will stop flippers from buying out merch before "normal" people can get anything.. gotten out of hand.

Other bands do this with success.

Other bands have huge corporations that can handle that type of volume do this for them.

Honestly I think this situation could be handled if they employed a 1 poster per physical person in line rule. You wouldn't have people able to buy 50 and resell 49 of them for triple the price.

Sure there might still be scalpers who might sell a couple, but all in all it would make the supply way more plentiful for the real fans who want to get them.

RP112579 · August 2018

ForceofNature101 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

1upstate said:

myoung321 said:

It's time 10C did a package for ticket winners... no reason to make your dedicated fans stand in lines for hours when it can be easily streamlined - This will stop flippers from buying out merch before "normal" people can get anything.. gotten out of hand.

Other bands do this with success.

Other bands have huge corporations that can handle that type of volume do this for them.

Honestly I think this situation could be handled if they employed a 1 poster per physical person in line rule. You wouldn't have people able to buy 50 and resell 49 of them for triple the price.

Sure there might still be scalpers who might sell a couple, but all in all it would make the supply way more plentiful for the real fans who want to get them.

The "real" fans are the flippers. Go into the raffle group on Facebook. There are multiple raffles for full sets of Wrigley posters, and a few for the Thomas poster. Hell, one guy got one at the stand on the field and posted it for raffle at the show, and was updating the spots left in the raffle during the show.

BF89905 · August 2018

PB11041 said:

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

I am as stunned as you... it's sad and laughable at the same time.

ForceofNature101 · August 2018

RP112579 said:

ForceofNature101 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

1upstate said:

myoung321 said:

It's time 10C did a package for ticket winners... no reason to make your dedicated fans stand in lines for hours when it can be easily streamlined - This will stop flippers from buying out merch before "normal" people can get anything.. gotten out of hand.

Other bands do this with success.

Other bands have huge corporations that can handle that type of volume do this for them.

Honestly I think this situation could be handled if they employed a 1 poster per physical person in line rule. You wouldn't have people able to buy 50 and resell 49 of them for triple the price.

Sure there might still be scalpers who might sell a couple, but all in all it would make the supply way more plentiful for the real fans who want to get them.

The "real" fans are the flippers. Go into the raffle group on Facebook. There are multiple raffles for full sets of Wrigley posters, and a few for the Thomas poster. Hell, one guy got one at the stand on the field and posted it for raffle at the show, and was updating the spots left in the raffle during the show.

Oh wow, I didn't even know that. Why do the actual PJ hardcore fans have such an obsession with them? I never really got into that whole merch world besides just getting the posters at the shows I was at just by seeing if they still had any by chance while I was getting T-shirts.

ForceofNature101 · August 2018

PB11041 said:

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

I am with you, I personally don't get it. I mean I kind of get it - I have the posters framed of the shows I went to. But all in all they are cool, but if they weren't there I would have been just as happy simply being there to listen to the kickass music in front of me

I would rather be spinning Benaroya on my record player as opposed to it looking pretty on a shelf, the vinyl inside is useless at that point and it goes against the entire reason why it was printed on vinyl in the first place if nobody actually plays the music that is on it

Whatever happened to the actual music being the most important thing?

pjl44 · August 2018

ForceofNature101 said:

PB11041 said:

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

I am with you, I personally don't get it. I mean I kind of get it - I have the posters framed of the shows I went to. But all in all they are cool, but if they weren't there I would have been just as happy simply being there to listen to the kickass music in front of me

I would rather be spinning Benaroya on my record player as opposed to it looking pretty on a shelf, the vinyl inside is useless at that point and it goes against the entire reason why it was printed on vinyl in the first place if nobody actually plays the music that is on it

Whatever happened to the actual music being the most important thing?

Collecting is the sort of thing that really can't be explained if you don't inherently understand it. And it coexists with enjoying the music pretty easily. If it isn't your bag, just be thankful you don't feel compelled to take part in all these fire drills.

ForceofNature101 · August 2018

pjl44 said:

ForceofNature101 said:

PB11041 said:

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

I am with you, I personally don't get it. I mean I kind of get it - I have the posters framed of the shows I went to. But all in all they are cool, but if they weren't there I would have been just as happy simply being there to listen to the kickass music in front of me

I would rather be spinning Benaroya on my record player as opposed to it looking pretty on a shelf, the vinyl inside is useless at that point and it goes against the entire reason why it was printed on vinyl in the first place if nobody actually plays the music that is on it

Whatever happened to the actual music being the most important thing?

Collecting is the sort of thing that really can't be explained if you don't inherently understand it. And it coexists with enjoying the music pretty easily. If it isn't your bag, just be thankful you don't feel compelled to party in all these fire drills.

I mean I kinda get it. Not that I don't have any "rare" items, I have some out of print Prince records that are apparently coveted in the secondhand market and I do like having them, and I do like my PJ posters from the shows I went to. But I guess for me it is more just putting into perspective what fans are selling these awesome items for, how expensive they can be and how much money fans are making off of other fans.

pjl44 · August 2018

ForceofNature101 said:

pjl44 said:

ForceofNature101 said:

PB11041 said:

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

I am with you, I personally don't get it. I mean I kind of get it - I have the posters framed of the shows I went to. But all in all they are cool, but if they weren't there I would have been just as happy simply being there to listen to the kickass music in front of me

I would rather be spinning Benaroya on my record player as opposed to it looking pretty on a shelf, the vinyl inside is useless at that point and it goes against the entire reason why it was printed on vinyl in the first place if nobody actually plays the music that is on it

Whatever happened to the actual music being the most important thing?

Collecting is the sort of thing that really can't be explained if you don't inherently understand it. And it coexists with enjoying the music pretty easily. If it isn't your bag, just be thankful you don't feel compelled to party in all these fire drills.

I mean I kinda get it. Not that I don't have any "rare" items, I have some out of print Prince records that are apparently coveted in the secondhand market and I do like having them, and I do like my PJ posters from the shows I went to. But I guess for me it is more just putting into perspective what fans are selling these awesome items for, how expensive they can be and how much money fans are making off of other fans.

Well that's a much simpler answer: Microeconomics

ForceofNature101 · August 2018

pjl44 said:

ForceofNature101 said:

pjl44 said:

ForceofNature101 said:

PB11041 said:

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

I am with you, I personally don't get it. I mean I kind of get it - I have the posters framed of the shows I went to. But all in all they are cool, but if they weren't there I would have been just as happy simply being there to listen to the kickass music in front of me

I would rather be spinning Benaroya on my record player as opposed to it looking pretty on a shelf, the vinyl inside is useless at that point and it goes against the entire reason why it was printed on vinyl in the first place if nobody actually plays the music that is on it

Whatever happened to the actual music being the most important thing?

Collecting is the sort of thing that really can't be explained if you don't inherently understand it. And it coexists with enjoying the music pretty easily. If it isn't your bag, just be thankful you don't feel compelled to party in all these fire drills.

I mean I kinda get it. Not that I don't have any "rare" items, I have some out of print Prince records that are apparently coveted in the secondhand market and I do like having them, and I do like my PJ posters from the shows I went to. But I guess for me it is more just putting into perspective what fans are selling these awesome items for, how expensive they can be and how much money fans are making off of other fans.

Well that's a much simpler answer: Microeconomics

And to break it down even more - greed

pjl44 · August 2018

ForceofNature101 said:

pjl44 said:

ForceofNature101 said:

pjl44 said:

ForceofNature101 said:

PB11041 said:

I just can't get worked up on merch anymore. It is weird to me that people have unopened Benaroya Hall box sets, that my poster from Randall's Island 1996 sells for like $800, that people are sitting on Lost Dogs vinyl or whatever. I get that it sucks that people scam the system, but what is nearly worse are people that willing pay them on ebay.

I am with you, I personally don't get it. I mean I kind of get it - I have the posters framed of the shows I went to. But all in all they are cool, but if they weren't there I would have been just as happy simply being there to listen to the kickass music in front of me

I would rather be spinning Benaroya on my record player as opposed to it looking pretty on a shelf, the vinyl inside is useless at that point and it goes against the entire reason why it was printed on vinyl in the first place if nobody actually plays the music that is on it

Whatever happened to the actual music being the most important thing?

Collecting is the sort of thing that really can't be explained if you don't inherently understand it. And it coexists with enjoying the music pretty easily. If it isn't your bag, just be thankful you don't feel compelled to party in all these fire drills.

I mean I kinda get it. Not that I don't have any "rare" items, I have some out of print Prince records that are apparently coveted in the secondhand market and I do like having them, and I do like my PJ posters from the shows I went to. But I guess for me it is more just putting into perspective what fans are selling these awesome items for, how expensive they can be and how much money fans are making off of other fans.

Well that's a much simpler answer: Microeconomics

And to break it down even more - greed

Eh...greed is a two way street. There is hardly a more non-essential item than concert swag. The person who neeeeeeds something they don't actually need is as complicit as the person selling at a markup.

Sarava · August 2018

What bums me out is the merch situation brings out the worst in people. As I stood in line last night, I watched just about everybody in line buy 2 Thomas posters. Until they ran out with me 3rd in line. And this isn't about me. I bought the ames poster, and at the end of the day I think I actually like that one better.

But to all the fans buying multiples of a poster they know is about to run out. They apparently have no concern that their greed is screwing over the people just a few spots behind them in line. People that waited just as long as them in line, but they came away with nothing. All so they can resell the poster on ebay for $100 profit or whatever. Isn't this against the spirit of what being a fan is supposed to be about?

The band could obviously stop or help this situation, but they choose not to.

Eroom21 · August 2018

I got into town today, and I headed over to wrigley around 130-200 and I saw people leaving the merch tent with 3-4 prints of the Thomas poster.

deadendp · August 2018

Sarava said:

What bums me out is the merch situation brings out the worst in people. As I stood in line last night, I watched just about everybody in line buy 2 Thomas posters. Until they ran out with me 3rd in line. And this isn't about me. I bought the ames poster, and at the end of the day I think I actually like that one better.

But to all the fans buying multiples of a poster they know is about to run out. They apparently have no concern that their greed is screwing over the people just a few spots behind them in line. People that waited just as long as them in line, but they came away with nothing. All so they can resell the poster on ebay for $100 profit or whatever. Isn't this against the spirit of what being a fan is supposed to be about?

The band could obviously stop or help this situation, but they choose not to.

You are assuming that everyone ahead of you is selling posters for profit, but have you considered that some people are getting their second copy for people who have waited in that same line before and lost out?

I understand your frustration, but there are some pretty terrific people here who do truly just try to take care of each other ... without flipping.

nicknyr15 · August 2018

deadendp said:

Sarava said:

What bums me out is the merch situation brings out the worst in people. As I stood in line last night, I watched just about everybody in line buy 2 Thomas posters. Until they ran out with me 3rd in line. And this isn't about me. I bought the ames poster, and at the end of the day I think I actually like that one better.

But to all the fans buying multiples of a poster they know is about to run out. They apparently have no concern that their greed is screwing over the people just a few spots behind them in line. People that waited just as long as them in line, but they came away with nothing. All so they can resell the poster on ebay for $100 profit or whatever. Isn't this against the spirit of what being a fan is supposed to be about?

The band could obviously stop or help this situation, but they choose not to.

You are assuming that everyone ahead of you is selling posters for profit, but have you considered that some people are getting their second copy for people who have waited in that same line before and lost out?

I understand your frustration, but there are some pretty terrific people here who do truly just try to take care of each other ... without flipping.

I really want to believe that but I just don’t. Maybe a very small percent are. I’m iso of one on lost dogs and haven’t gotten any responses beside a few trade inquiries.

This merch situation is really frustrating.

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