josevolution said:

Gtilley8 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left

What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?

Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.

Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples.  AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left.  Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction.  CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them.  I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.

Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.

I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?

So, big Trump supporter congressman Collins arrested for insider trading.  Rand Paul delivering letters to Putin while in Russia.  The new norm for the GOP.  

No doubt i hope Muller can uncover as much as possible and make public , Rand is a total traitor too like the orange baffoon himself ...

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left

What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?

Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.

Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples.  AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left.  Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction.  CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them.  I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.

Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.

I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left

What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?

Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.

Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples.  AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left.  Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction.  CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them.  I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.

Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.

I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left

What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?

Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.

Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples.  AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left.  Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction.  CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them.  I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.

Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.

I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?

I’m talking about playing up non stories as big deals just to hammer trump. But that’s ok you have a different opinion then me.

What “non-stories” have or are being played up?
 

Ivanka trump's statement about the families being separated.  It was just dumb.  Sounded like they had been drinking all day and then all ganging up on Ivanka and how she should MAKE the president do something and they don't believe for a second that she couldn't MAKE the president do something.  That's 1 example.  

Halifax2TheMax said:

Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.

It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.

But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid.  And could be a straight up lie. 

My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.  

If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.

It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.

But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid.  And could be a straight up lie. 

My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.  

If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.

You are completely missing the point and only focusing your anger on trump...as they did.

It's not about whether she should be an adviser, etc.  It's that they were stating that as an adviser that must mean she is 100% in line with the president.  That's not true on any adviser all of the time.  And they did it specifically because it was his daughter and they feel the need to attack trump and his family IN RETALIATION for Trumps's stupid attacks.  Trump has been a master at this for some time.  I discounted it originally, but he keeps doing it.  Brings everyone down to his level and gives his critics enough rope to do what he wants....and then he and his base see Trump being attacked and believe everything else trump says about his opponents.  This time its the media.  CNN has taken the bait, which is a shame because trumps attacks on the media and specifically CNN are awful, anti-american, and the path to tyranny. 

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.

It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.

But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid.  And could be a straight up lie. 

My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.  

If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.

You are completely missing the point and only focusing your anger on trump...as they did.

It's not about whether she should be an adviser, etc.  It's that they were stating that as an adviser that must mean she is 100% in line with the president.  That's not true on any adviser all of the time.  And they did it specifically because it was his daughter and they feel the need to attack trump and his family IN RETALIATION for Trumps's stupid attacks.  Trump has been a master at this for some time.  I discounted it originally, but he keeps doing it.  Brings everyone down to his level and gives his critics enough rope to do what he wants....and then he and his base see Trump being attacked and believe everything else trump says about his opponents.  This time its the media.  CNN has taken the bait, which is a shame because trumps attacks on the media and specifically CNN are awful, anti-american, and the path to tyranny.