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No doubt i hope Muller can uncover as much as possible and make public , Rand is a total traitor too like the orange baffoon himself ...Gtilley8 said:
So, big Trump supporter congressman Collins arrested for insider trading. Rand Paul delivering letters to Putin while in Russia. The new norm for the GOP.PJ_Soul said:
I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?cincybearcat said:
Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples. AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left. Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction. CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them. I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.Spiritual_Chaos said:Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left
What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?
Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
It certainly seems that way.josevolution said:
No doubt i hope Muller can uncover as much as possible and make public , Rand is a total traitor too like the orange baffoon himself ...Gtilley8 said:
So, big Trump supporter congressman Collins arrested for insider trading. Rand Paul delivering letters to Putin while in Russia. The new norm for the GOP.PJ_Soul said:
I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?cincybearcat said:
Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples. AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left. Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction. CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them. I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.Spiritual_Chaos said:Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left
What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?
Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.2000 - 8/21 - Columbus, OH
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I’m talking about playing up non stories as big deals just to hammer trump. But that’s ok you have a different opinion then me.PJ_Soul said:
I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?cincybearcat said:
Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples. AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left. Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction. CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them. I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.Spiritual_Chaos said:Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left
What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?
Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.
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What “non-stories” have or are being played up?cincybearcat said:
I’m talking about playing up non stories as big deals just to hammer trump. But that’s ok you have a different opinion then me.PJ_Soul said:
I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?cincybearcat said:
Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples. AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left. Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction. CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them. I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.Spiritual_Chaos said:Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left
What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?
Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.
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That point will never dawn on his supporters just like said well over a yr ago he can basically get away with anything!PJ_Soul said:
I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?cincybearcat said:
Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples. AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left. Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction. CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them. I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.Spiritual_Chaos said:Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left
What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?
Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Ivanka trump's statement about the families being separated. It was just dumb. Sounded like they had been drinking all day and then all ganging up on Ivanka and how she should MAKE the president do something and they don't believe for a second that she couldn't MAKE the president do something. That's 1 example.Halifax2TheMax said:
What “non-stories” have or are being played up?cincybearcat said:
I’m talking about playing up non stories as big deals just to hammer trump. But that’s ok you have a different opinion then me.PJ_Soul said:
I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?cincybearcat said:
Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples. AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left. Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction. CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them. I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.Spiritual_Chaos said:Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left
What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?
Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.
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Except Ivanka is touted as a “senior advisor” to Team Trump Treason and senior advisors are typically hired staff with policy expertise that advise the POTUS. So, if you’re a senior advisor without policy expertise in immigration issues and publicly speak to the challenges of immigration by basically saying it’s, “complicated,” while not expressing concern for the children who have been separated from their parents and not offering any solutions to the problem your boss created, you shouldn’t be held accountable or criticized by the press? Welcome to stupid government folks.cincybearcat said:
Ivanka trump's statement about the families being separated. It was just dumb. Sounded like they had been drinking all day and then all ganging up on Ivanka and how she should MAKE the president do something and they don't believe for a second that she couldn't MAKE the president do something. That's 1 example.Halifax2TheMax said:
What “non-stories” have or are being played up?cincybearcat said:
I’m talking about playing up non stories as big deals just to hammer trump. But that’s ok you have a different opinion then me.PJ_Soul said:
I'm just wondering exactly how bad Trump has to get before people feel that the news networks being "anti-Trump" is just a responsible, unbiased position to take. I personally think Trump is already that bad. Apparently others do not? So how far does he have to go? Forcefully shutting down press offices that don't cover him positively? Banning the press besides Fox and Breitbart and Infowars from all access to the WH? Actual concentration camps for asylum seekers? Eliminating term limits for the POTUS? Declaring war against allies with Russia? What? I'm starting to feel like some people think the news media should NEVER lean away from Trump (aka "lean left"), no matter how fucked the "right" becomes. That just doesn't seem reasonable to me at all. At what point can the media treat Trump as an illegitimate President heading an illegitimate political party?? I personally think he already is one, and the GOP is no longer something that can possibly be viewed as a legitimate political party that serves the citizens. So why can't the media respond accordingly to that?cincybearcat said:
Sorry I didnt see the question and to be truthful I don;t remember right now specific examples. AS I continue to check them all out on radio or TV to see how things are presented, it is extremely obvious to me that MSNBC has a hard lean left. Again, they don't lie outright like Fox but they do have an agenda to push their viewers to a certain direction. CNN has been more moderate...again, in my opinion...but they have started to get a little crazy with the anti-trump stuff due to all of his attacks on them. I get it, I just don't think it's a smart play by the network.PJ_Soul said:
Yeah, good questions. I would say they really just lean sane now.Spiritual_Chaos said:Being negative towards Trumps actions =/= being biased to the left
What did CNN and MSNBC lean left on? Or did they just lean sane on those topics?
Sure some of the "left leaning" is just being more factual on some topics....but other times they are trying to create outrage over something just to be anti-trump.
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Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.Halifax2TheMax said:Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.
But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid. And could be a straight up lie.
My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.hippiemom = goodness0 -
If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.cincybearcat said:
It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.Halifax2TheMax said:Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.
But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid. And could be a straight up lie.
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Does "daddy gave me money to start a business" count as a credential? If so, she's got one heckuva resume.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.cincybearcat said:
It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.Halifax2TheMax said:Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.
But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid. And could be a straight up lie.
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You are completely missing the point and only focusing your anger on trump...as they did.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.cincybearcat said:
It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.Halifax2TheMax said:Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.
But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid. And could be a straight up lie.
My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.
It's not about whether she should be an adviser, etc. It's that they were stating that as an adviser that must mean she is 100% in line with the president. That's not true on any adviser all of the time. And they did it specifically because it was his daughter and they feel the need to attack trump and his family IN RETALIATION for Trumps's stupid attacks. Trump has been a master at this for some time. I discounted it originally, but he keeps doing it. Brings everyone down to his level and gives his critics enough rope to do what he wants....and then he and his base see Trump being attacked and believe everything else trump says about his opponents. This time its the media. CNN has taken the bait, which is a shame because trumps attacks on the media and specifically CNN are awful, anti-american, and the path to tyranny.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Who’s angry? I’m arguing that the criticism leveled at Ivanka by the press for her public statements regarding immigration are warranted and legitimate. She expressed only concern for herself and her feelings while not offering any solutions to the problem her dumb ass father created, and needlessly so. If she’s not fair game for criticism, as a representative of the admin. Then you have a much quicker path to tyranny than a critical press because at the end of the day, it’s the policy, the problem and the solution that matter.cincybearcat said:
You are completely missing the point and only focusing your anger on trump...as they did.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.cincybearcat said:
It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.Halifax2TheMax said:Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.
But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid. And could be a straight up lie.
My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.
It's not about whether she should be an adviser, etc. It's that they were stating that as an adviser that must mean she is 100% in line with the president. That's not true on any adviser all of the time. And they did it specifically because it was his daughter and they feel the need to attack trump and his family IN RETALIATION for Trumps's stupid attacks. Trump has been a master at this for some time. I discounted it originally, but he keeps doing it. Brings everyone down to his level and gives his critics enough rope to do what he wants....and then he and his base see Trump being attacked and believe everything else trump says about his opponents. This time its the media. CNN has taken the bait, which is a shame because trumps attacks on the media and specifically CNN are awful, anti-american, and the path to tyranny.
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You are completely missing the point and only focusing your anger on trump...as they did.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen. The Team Trump Treason Administration has named and appointed Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy as senior advisors to the POTUS. Inside reporting is that they both have Team Trump Treason’s ear and can influence him. She decided to open her yap and talk about immigration and yet, what are her credentials and more importantly, has she even tried to understand the challenges and influence her father to fix the mess he created in the first place? No, she failed and she was criticized by the press and rightly so. Sasha, Malia or Chelsea would be better senior advisors to the POTUS. Except those President/potential president know better to name your family members as a “senior advisor” and rep for the admin.cincybearcat said:
It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.Halifax2TheMax said:Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.
But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid. And could be a straight up lie.
My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.
It's not about whether she should be an adviser, etc. It's that they were stating that as an adviser that must mean she is 100% in line with the president. That's not true on any adviser all of the time. And they did it specifically because it was his daughter and they feel the need to attack trump and his family IN RETALIATION for Trumps's stupid attacks. Trump has been a master at this for some time. I discounted it originally, but he keeps doing it. Brings everyone down to his level and gives his critics enough rope to do what he wants....and then he and his base see Trump being attacked and believe everything else trump says about his opponents. This time its the media. CNN has taken the bait, which is a shame because trumps attacks on the media and specifically CNN are awful, anti-american, and the path to tyranny.
I don't recall the press saying what you are suggesting they did. Maybe post an example of what you think is going on.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Yeah, I don't buy that as a good example of a non-story at all. As others mentioned, she's a senior White House advisor AND his favorite daughter (he'd like to fuck). She is very likely also the only female on the face of the planet who Trump actually respects on any level, despite the incest fantasies. I think that makes it all very relevant - she likely has more of an impact on him than anyone else... after Hannity.cincybearcat said:
It has nothing to do with "poor Ivanka" but I knew you'd type that before you did.Halifax2TheMax said:Poor Ivanka, poor, poor Ivanka. She has no business in the White House other than as a guest. Go back to NYC.
But CNN/MSNBC playing it off like Ivanka has control over her dad and can make him do stuff and if he is doing something then she must obviously agree was stupid. And could be a straight up lie.
My memory is crap anymore, so I'll have to try and write stuff down when I hear it again.
Also, her husband is supposed to be brokering peace in the Middle East or something, remember? 
So I think it's pretty obvious that their editorial panels would touch on those perspectives about where she stands when it comes to Trump's behaviour and actions. Frankly, I think that Ivanka and Jared aren't getting enough coverage by the media, and are not being hammered enough. Their roles are being ignored, it's almost like the news media is underestimating them, and I know why... Because they are so pitifully unqualified to have the positions Trump gave them, plus they both bring HUGE conflicts of interest into the WH ... That seems like a big ongoing news story to me.
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Fox News Item Draws an Angry Reaction From the Danish Government
Danish Finance Minister Kristian Jensen responded to the Fox report via Twitter, and invited Regan to come to Denmark to learn more about the country.
“So Danes don’t want to work? 11 places better than U.S. in OECD statistics! We are working much more than Americans and at the same time ranking as the world’s best in work-life balance. You should come to Denmark if you dare to be confronted with the facts,” Jensen said. The minister then finished his tweet with a smiley face.
According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the U.S. is No. 20 in a ranking of national employment rates, while Denmark ranks eighth. When it comes to income equality, Denmark has the sixth-best distribution, while the U.S. is ranked seventh from the bottom, just above Turkey. In work-life-balance, Denmark ranks second-highest in the OECD (just after the Netherlands), while the U.S. ranks ninth from the bottom.
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