Portland’s Patriot Prayer Rally Could Be Most Violent Since Charlottesville

dignin said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

unsung said:

Are there members of antifa here?

I am a member. I have a welcome pack which I received upon signing up.
It includes a membership card, a pen, a notepad, a scarf and backpack.

I got a decoder ring in mine, didn't you get one? 

Sadly I didn't. 

brianlux said:

For a limited time only, new members registering at the $1,000 level get a free  (yes, that's FREE!) disappearing cloak!

Damn I need to sign up but I also want a wand ..

PJPOWER said:

Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol

So who do you consider to be turds 
1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol

So who do you consider to be turds 
1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.

My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...

Are there any proud boys on this forum?

tbergs said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Are there any proud boys on this forum?

No, but anyone who uses the term "butt hurt" doesn't deserve the courtesy of a reply. Childish indeed.

Triggered?  Is that better?  Do you think the people out there are acting like mature adults?  I don’t think so!  Now go put your black eyeliner back on and kick a dumpster if it makes you feel better.  Please do not break windows though, actual hard working people or tax payers have to pay to replace those.

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol

So who do you consider to be turds 
1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.

My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...

No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.

History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 

oftenreading said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol

So who do you consider to be turds 
1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.

My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...

No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.

History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 

So who were the fascists there?  That excuse for acting like children is a bit nauseating...”Antifa” is about as anti-fascists as the ones they are calling fascists.  It is a shit show.  I am most defiantly anti-fascist, but you do not have to wear black, break shit, support communism/socialism, and promote/participate in violent clashes to be anti-fascists, but you do to be part of the “Antifa” movement evidently.
And starting physical confrontations is not going to make any group go away either, if nothing else, it will just result in them becoming more militant and give them more attention.  Is that result a good thing in your eyes?

oftenreading said:

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol

So who do you consider to be turds 
1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.

My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...

No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.

History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 

So who were the fascists there?  That excuse for acting like children is a bit nauseating...”Antifa” is about as anti-fascists as the ones they are calling fascists.  It is a shit show.  I am most defiantly anti-fascist, but you do not have to wear black, break shit, support communism/socialism, and promote/participate in violent clashes to be anti-fascists, but you do to be part of the “Antifa” movement evidently.
And starting physical confrontations is not going to make any group go away either, if nothing else, it will just result in them becoming more militant and give them more attention.  Is that result a good thing in your eyes?

Why do you conflate all counter-protestors with antifa? And why would you ignore the fact that spokesmen for the PP and related groups said they would have members dressed as antifa to infiltrate their opposition, stirring up trouble that would be blamed on the counter-protestors. 

I do not conflate all counter-protesters with antifa, just the ones dressing in black acting like idiots.  I couldn’t give less of a shit about what the PP dressing up and infiltrating the ranks of them as I couldn’t care less about the opposite being done either.  I will not legitimize any of the ones acting like idiots and trying to stir shit up.  If people (protesters and counter-protesters alike) violently attack people being non-violent (including their property), then they are asshats and only help perpetuate the discourse.  That being said, it doesn’t bother me too much when I see the ones that came for a fight getting the shit beat out of them.  Play stupid games/win stupid prizes.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads

You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.
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