Portland’s Patriot Prayer Rally Could Be Most Violent Since Charlottesville

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  • brianlux said:
    unsung said:
    Are there members of antifa here?
    I am a member. I have a welcome pack which I received upon signing up.
    It includes a membership card, a pen, a notepad, a scarf and backpack.
    Too bad you weren't one of the first 100 members who got the free guitar by signing up early!

    Cursing my tardiness. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • dignin said:
    unsung said:
    Are there members of antifa here?
    I am a member. I have a welcome pack which I received upon signing up.
    It includes a membership card, a pen, a notepad, a scarf and backpack.
    I got a decoder ring in mine, didn't you get one? 

    Image result for decoder ring


    Sadly I didn't. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,532
    brianlux said:
    For a limited time only, new members registering at the $1,000 level get a free  (yes, that's FREE!) disappearing cloak!

    Damn I need to sign up but I also want a wand ..
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,532
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people playing dress up out just looking to get in fights or break shit.  They are not doing anyone favors and are, quite frankly, just being childish, all of them.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,532
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.
    My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.
    My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...
    No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
    And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Are there any proud boys on this forum?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Are there any proud boys on this forum?
    No, but anyone who uses the term "butt hurt" doesn't deserve the courtesy of a reply. Childish indeed.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    tbergs said:
    Are there any proud boys on this forum?
    No, but anyone who uses the term "butt hurt" doesn't deserve the courtesy of a reply. Childish indeed.
    Triggered?  Is that better?  Do you think the people out there are acting like mature adults?  I don’t think so!  Now go put your black eyeliner back on and kick a dumpster if it makes you feel better.  Please do not break windows though, actual hard working people or tax payers have to pay to replace those.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Those non-white “racists” at the end sure have some good dance moves, lol
    https://youtu.be/QSnmvFAw1so

  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.
    My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...
    No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
    And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.
    History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.
    My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...
    No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
    And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.
    History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 
    When does ignoring bad behavior ever make it go away? 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.
    My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...
    No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
    And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.
    History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 
    So who were the fascists there?  That excuse for acting like children is a bit nauseating...”Antifa” is about as anti-fascists as the ones they are calling fascists.  It is a shit show.  I am most defiantly anti-fascist, but you do not have to wear black, break shit, support communism/socialism, and promote/participate in violent clashes to be anti-fascists, but you do to be part of the “Antifa” movement evidently.
    And starting physical confrontations is not going to make any group go away either, if nothing else, it will just result in them becoming more militant and give them more attention.  Is that result a good thing in your eyes?

    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.
    My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...
    No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
    And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.
    History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 
    So who were the fascists there?  That excuse for acting like children is a bit nauseating...”Antifa” is about as anti-fascists as the ones they are calling fascists.  It is a shit show.  I am most defiantly anti-fascist, but you do not have to wear black, break shit, support communism/socialism, and promote/participate in violent clashes to be anti-fascists, but you do to be part of the “Antifa” movement evidently.
    And starting physical confrontations is not going to make any group go away either, if nothing else, it will just result in them becoming more militant and give them more attention.  Is that result a good thing in your eyes?

    Why do you conflate all counter-protestors with antifa? And why would you ignore the fact that spokesmen for the PP and related groups said they would have members dressed as antifa to infiltrate their opposition, stirring up trouble that would be blamed on the counter-protestors. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Did any trash cans get hurt during the clash of turds?  They seem to take the brunt of the violence in during these shitshows, lol
    So who do you consider to be turds 
    1-The folks who spew hate & racism 
    2- The folks who oppose hate & racism 

    The ones who use and incite violence as a way to get their point across.  That includes property as well as human violence.  Violence only perpetuates more violence.  I respect civil disagreements, but not people out just looking to get in fights or break shit.
    My question was to black & white for you , so your ok with the message the one hate group puts out there there is nothing civil about white supremacy groups none at all , I agree with you no one should resort to violence in disputing these subhumans that make up the Patriot Prayer assholes ...
    No, you just didn’t get the response that you wanted and are butt hurt.  But in the end, we agree that any of them resorting to violence are idiots.  If the hate group was ignored, they would not be able succeed, but instead these idiots go out there and try to physically confront each other and now the hate groups are on social media declaring victory against “antifa” that they beat to a pulp...and claiming self defense.
    And then that “message” that you are worried about spreads all over the media...it is childish, plain and simple.
    History shows that “just ignoring” fascists does not make them go away. They see that they have support right up to the highest level of government - why would they go away? 
    So who were the fascists there?  That excuse for acting like children is a bit nauseating...”Antifa” is about as anti-fascists as the ones they are calling fascists.  It is a shit show.  I am most defiantly anti-fascist, but you do not have to wear black, break shit, support communism/socialism, and promote/participate in violent clashes to be anti-fascists, but you do to be part of the “Antifa” movement evidently.
    And starting physical confrontations is not going to make any group go away either, if nothing else, it will just result in them becoming more militant and give them more attention.  Is that result a good thing in your eyes?

    Why do you conflate all counter-protestors with antifa? And why would you ignore the fact that spokesmen for the PP and related groups said they would have members dressed as antifa to infiltrate their opposition, stirring up trouble that would be blamed on the counter-protestors. 
    I do not conflate all counter-protesters with antifa, just the ones dressing in black acting like idiots.  I couldn’t give less of a shit about what the PP dressing up and infiltrating the ranks of them as I couldn’t care less about the opposite being done either.  I will not legitimize any of the ones acting like idiots and trying to stir shit up.  If people (protesters and counter-protesters alike) violently attack people being non-violent (including their property), then they are asshats and only help perpetuate the discourse.  That being said, it doesn’t bother me too much when I see the ones that came for a fight getting the shit beat out of them.  Play stupid games/win stupid prizes.

    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,523
    edited August 2018
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.
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    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJPOWER said:
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.


    Why do grown ass adults still live with mommy?  I do not know what drives a person.  I am clearly not only focusing on one group though.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.


    Why do grown ass adults still live with mommy?  I do not know what drives a person.  I am clearly not only focusing on one group though.
    Are you spying on me?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    That spinning head is making me sea sick!  :sick:
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.


    Why do grown ass adults still live with mommy?  I do not know what drives a person.  I am clearly not only focusing on one group though.
    Are you spying on me?
    Lol, that would be even more of a waste of time than arguing with you!

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Ok, I just needed to post this to get that damn spinning head off the current feed.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.


    Why do grown ass adults still live with mommy?  I do not know what drives a person.  I am clearly not only focusing on one group though.
    Are you spying on me?
    Lol, that would be even more of a waste of time than arguing with you!


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    How come some people choose to always focus on "Antifa" or the counter-protesters instead of the racists/nazi-shitheads


    You only seeing what you want to see.  Any racists/Nazis there are shitheads as well, but I am specifically focusing on any of the people using violence as a means of getting their message across.  That does not dismiss any racists or nazis.  Why do people think that all of the protesters are racists/nazis by the way?  In the video I posted earlier, there were clearly brown and black skinned protesters there.  It is hardcore militant right wingers vs hardcore militant left-wingers, simple as that.


    Why do grown ass adults still live with mommy?  I do not know what drives a person.  I am clearly not only focusing on one group though.
    Are you spying on me?
    Lol, that would be even more of a waste of time than arguing with you!


    Awwww, how sweet! 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,445
    tbergs said:
    Are there any proud boys on this forum?
    No, but anyone who uses the term "butt hurt" doesn't deserve the courtesy of a reply. Childish indeed.
    Butt hurt is a very established and distinguished phrase. Please leave your English lit teachers critiques off this forum. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    tbergs said:
    Are there any proud boys on this forum?
    No, but anyone who uses the term "butt hurt" doesn't deserve the courtesy of a reply. Childish indeed.
    Butt hurt is a very established and distinguished phrase. Please leave your English lit teachers critiques off this forum. 
    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/butthurt
    Lol
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