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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,984
    Let justice prevail. If there is any criminal activity, let the sun shine on it and our legal system do what it's meant to do. That's no matter the person, no matter what organization, red or blue or green. Get the criminals out of our government. Then maybe criminals won't be invited to our White House. Just a few thoughts after I stopped laughing when I saw the headline. Have a great weekend all. :)
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited July 2018
    Charlottesville was my Trumpito low point, but that was eclipsed by #NATOOTAN and then the disaster of #TRUMPUTIN .
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    Tiki said:
    Charlottesville was my Trumpito low point, but that was eclipsed by #NATOOTAN and then the disaster of #TRUMPUTIN .

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  • my2hands
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    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


    More tough talk, I'm not impressed. You talk a good game, until a foreign power owns the White House

    I have a healthy distrust for the USA defense & intelligence apparatus, but I definitely trust them a lot more than this POS.

    So you're saying they didnt hack state election systems and a major political party? 

    Fake patriot
  • josevolution
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  • mfc2006
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
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  • cincybearcat
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
    You know he even called Un "Little Rocket man"....but nothing on Putin.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


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  • The Juggler
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    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


    More tough talk, I'm not impressed. You talk a good game, until a foreign power owns the White House

    I have a healthy distrust for the USA defense & intelligence apparatus, but I definitely trust them a lot more than this POS.

    So you're saying they didnt hack state election systems and a major political party? 

    Fake patriot
    See, I think you're giving Rambo too much credit here. It seems as if he doesn't mind a foreign power owning the White House. 
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    I'm reading a book called "Prisoners of Geography" and the first chapter details the geography of Russia.  It is a great discussion of how the geography of Russia informs every decision that country makes both now and in the past, for defense and trade purposes.  Why did Putin annex Crimea?  To regain a warm water port (defense and trade). Why hasn't Ukraine been admitted to  NATO?  Because we fear war with Russia (rightly so).  Why does Putin support Assad in Syria (in part)? To have a naval presence in the Mediterranean.  All this being said, while I think Trumps' advisors understand a lot of Putin's motivations, I don't think Trump has ANY understanding and, even worse, he refuses to be briefed and to educate himself on any of this.  He thinks he can strong arm people and win.  This is not the way geopolitics work.  This is why Trump should never be allowed to meet alone with any leader.  I can't support any president that doesn't even TRY to learn.  I detested GW Bush but he at least had an understanding of issues.  Trump supporters need to quit worrying about Hillary and start worrying about the coming storm.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    riotgrl said:
    I'm reading a book called "Prisoners of Geography" and the first chapter details the geography of Russia.  It is a great discussion of how the geography of Russia informs every decision that country makes both now and in the past, for defense and trade purposes.  Why did Putin annex Crimea?  To regain a warm water port (defense and trade). Why hasn't Ukraine been admitted to  NATO?  Because we fear war with Russia (rightly so).  Why does Putin support Assad in Syria (in part)? To have a naval presence in the Mediterranean.  All this being said, while I think Trumps' advisors understand a lot of Putin's motivations, I don't think Trump has ANY understanding and, even worse, he refuses to be briefed and to educate himself on any of this.  He thinks he can strong arm people and win.  This is not the way geopolitics work.  This is why Trump should never be allowed to meet alone with any leader.  I can't support any president that doesn't even TRY to learn.  I detested GW Bush but he at least had an understanding of issues.  Trump supporters need to quit worrying about Hillary and start worrying about the coming storm.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    cincybearcat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
    You know he even called Un "Little Rocket man"....but nothing on Putin.
    And I like how the queen found a way to quietly disrespect him, by wearing jewellery that Obama gave her when she met with Trump. 
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Tiki said:
    riotgrl said:
    I'm reading a book called "Prisoners of Geography" and the first chapter details the geography of Russia.  It is a great discussion of how the geography of Russia informs every decision that country makes both now and in the past, for defense and trade purposes.  Why did Putin annex Crimea?  To regain a warm water port (defense and trade). Why hasn't Ukraine been admitted to  NATO?  Because we fear war with Russia (rightly so).  Why does Putin support Assad in Syria (in part)? To have a naval presence in the Mediterranean.  All this being said, while I think Trumps' advisors understand a lot of Putin's motivations, I don't think Trump has ANY understanding and, even worse, he refuses to be briefed and to educate himself on any of this.  He thinks he can strong arm people and win.  This is not the way geopolitics work.  This is why Trump should never be allowed to meet alone with any leader.  I can't support any president that doesn't even TRY to learn.  I detested GW Bush but he at least had an understanding of issues.  Trump supporters need to quit worrying about Hillary and start worrying about the coming storm.
    He had adult supervision.
    That he listened to at least some of the time.  Trump listens to no one and nothing will sway him because he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room which he is not.  I may not like or agree with some of the people Trump surrounds himself with but at least some of them are telling him that the things he does are not good for the country.  And he doesn't care...
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    He's coming to America.....


  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited July 2018
    Hey! Here's some good news that should surprise no one...Happy Friday!


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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    What a PATRIOT.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Tiki said:
    Hey! Here's some good news that should surprise no one...Happy Friday!


    Why is it “breaking news” that he’s going golfing? Seems more like business as usual. 
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