The Ocean. Fishing & Whaling. Sustainable? Illegal? Over fished?

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    Interesting video.  But let's be honest and ask ourselves if we really are going to stop purchasing those products starting now.




  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    Interesting video.  But let's be honest and ask ourselves if we really are going to stop purchasing those products starting now.




    I stopped using plastic bags.  I drink out of reusable bottles.  I carry a bamboo fork and spoon set with me.

    You can do quite a bit to minimize an impact.

    Now I have to check my shampoo and soap when I get home.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    ^^^
    Oh no doubt you can minimize an impact by doing your part.  Maybe you live in area where plastic bags don't get recycled, is that your reason? Myself, where I live we have an outstanding recycling program for plastic bags etc.  with a very high compliance rate.  I don't buy bottled water only because it is a waste of money not to save the environment.  Yes I use reusable bottles as well.  I pack metal utensils for my lunch if i remember and wash them at work.  Ready to use again the next day.  It's becoming overwhelming that we have to go back to being cavemen/women again to appease environmentalists.  In fact  it's gotten to the point that even if we did that we wouldn't be allowed to have a fire as the smoke would be too damaging.

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    Oh no doubt you can minimize an impact by doing your part.  Maybe you live in area where plastic bags don't get recycled, is that your reason? Myself, where I live we have an outstanding recycling program for plastic bags etc.  with a very high compliance rate.  I don't buy bottled water only because it is a waste of money not to save the environment.  Yes I use reusable bottles as well.  I pack metal utensils for my lunch if i remember and wash them at work.  Ready to use again the next day.  It's becoming overwhelming that we have to go back to being cavemen/women again to appease environmentalists.  In fact  it's gotten to the point that even if we did that we wouldn't be allowed to have a fire as the smoke would be too damaging.

    :lol:

    I'm laughing to hard at this to respond but my friends, Croh, Uhhhh and Urgh have something to say about this:



    Crog:  "Who's he calling a cave man?!"
    Uhhhh: "Don't let it get to you, man.  He's just fucking with our heads."
    Urgh: "Post industrialists.  Huh!  Jeez they're a reckless species, man."
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I live hundreds of miles inland so I don't eat much fish.
    I was eating too much tuna, but now I have fresh eggs to replace that lean protein I need.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    rgambs said:
    I live hundreds of miles inland so I don't eat much fish.
    I was eating too much tuna, but now I have fresh eggs to replace that lean protein I need.
    seiner!
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08/29/houstons-flood-threatens-turn-polluted-superfund-sites-toxic-gumbo/

    I posted this in Harvey too.

    Eventually it all drains into the biggest sewer in the world unfortunately, the ocean...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    tempo_n_groove said:
    https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08/29/houstons-flood-threatens-turn-polluted-superfund-sites-toxic-gumbo/

    I posted this in Harvey too.

    Eventually it all drains into the biggest sewer in the world unfortunately, the ocean...
    Major bummer.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    but off topic but discussed.
    micro plastics in drinking water

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/study-finds-94-percent-u-s-tap-water-contaminated-plastic/
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    I stumbled upon this article.

    We need to revitalize this thread.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/mussels-plastic-microplastic-pollution-shellfish-seafood-oceans-uk-a8388486.html
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Say NO to plastic straws!!!

    http://www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org/no-straw-please/
    https://www.onelessstraw.org/
    https://thelastplasticstraw.org/
    https://www.strawlessocean.org/
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Plastic straws are not the problem ... people are...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I stumbled upon this article.

    We need to revitalize this thread.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/mussels-plastic-microplastic-pollution-shellfish-seafood-oceans-uk-a8388486.html
    I really think if there was a world-wide general understanding of what we are doing to the oceans and what the consequences of that implies, we would all let out a collective gasp and an emphatic "FUCK!"
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    I watched a documentary on the growing problem. Much of the micro plastic comes from our clothing.

    We wash our lululemons and this is how a new source of plastic is contaminating our oceans.

    It's looking pretty bleak for us, folks.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    The polar ice caps disappearing is the biggest telltale sign we are doomed. 

    Things are happening exponentially. Aside from the obvious implications the melting ice caps pose for all life on the planet... think of this: much of the suns rays are reflected back to space hitting the ice. As the ice disappears... less sun is reflected back. The earth will absorb that energy and of course... get warmer.

    There are too many things we have abused for too long to reverse course. Our numbers aren't decreasing and we are well past the threshold of sustainability.

    It's okay though. Our extinction was going to happen. We're just reaching the point where we understand this and some generation was going to come to this realization.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The polar ice caps disappearing is the biggest telltale sign we are doomed. 

    Things are happening exponentially. Aside from the obvious implications the melting ice caps pose for all life on the planet... think of this: much of the suns rays are reflected back to space hitting the ice. As the ice disappears... less sun is reflected back. The earth will absorb that energy and of course... get warmer.

    There are too many things we have abused for too long to reverse course. Our numbers aren't decreasing and we are well past the threshold of sustainability.

    It's okay though. Our extinction was going to happen. We're just reaching the point where we understand this and some generation was going to come to this realization.
    Everything is likely doomed to eventual extinction but what's your best guess, Thirty?  In terms of the foreseeable future, are we doomed to extinction world wide or will pockets of humanity survive, at least for the coming few centuries or more?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    brianlux said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The polar ice caps disappearing is the biggest telltale sign we are doomed. 

    Things are happening exponentially. Aside from the obvious implications the melting ice caps pose for all life on the planet... think of this: much of the suns rays are reflected back to space hitting the ice. As the ice disappears... less sun is reflected back. The earth will absorb that energy and of course... get warmer.

    There are too many things we have abused for too long to reverse course. Our numbers aren't decreasing and we are well past the threshold of sustainability.

    It's okay though. Our extinction was going to happen. We're just reaching the point where we understand this and some generation was going to come to this realization.
    Everything is likely doomed to eventual extinction but what's your best guess, Thirty?  In terms of the foreseeable future, are we doomed to extinction world wide or will pockets of humanity survive, at least for the coming few centuries or more?

    The year 2100 seems to be bantered about quite a bit with regards to when 'shit will hit the fan'. I'm thinking 'discomfort' will likely occur around then, but that seems to be the best guestimate for my relatively simple mind.

    There'll definitely be pockets of humanity that will try and ride it out. How these groups might manage and co-exist is the stuff made of movies.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    brianlux said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    The polar ice caps disappearing is the biggest telltale sign we are doomed. 

    Things are happening exponentially. Aside from the obvious implications the melting ice caps pose for all life on the planet... think of this: much of the suns rays are reflected back to space hitting the ice. As the ice disappears... less sun is reflected back. The earth will absorb that energy and of course... get warmer.

    There are too many things we have abused for too long to reverse course. Our numbers aren't decreasing and we are well past the threshold of sustainability.

    It's okay though. Our extinction was going to happen. We're just reaching the point where we understand this and some generation was going to come to this realization.
    Everything is likely doomed to eventual extinction but what's your best guess, Thirty?  In terms of the foreseeable future, are we doomed to extinction world wide or will pockets of humanity survive, at least for the coming few centuries or more?

    The year 2100 seems to be bantered about quite a bit with regards to when 'shit will hit the fan'. I'm thinking 'discomfort' will likely occur around then, but that seems to be the best guestimate for my relatively simple mind.

    There'll definitely be pockets of humanity that will try and ride it out. How these groups might manage and co-exist is the stuff made of movies.
    Yeas, some good movies have come out of the "end of the world" business.  I wish they would make one based on George R. Stewart's Earth Abides.  Damn, that's a fine book! 

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Ha!  Onion nails it!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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