The Alt-Left

vaggar99
vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
edited July 2018 in A Moving Train
you've heard the term.  but what does it really mean?  well, i have some thoughts.  first, what are yours?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,077
    Doesn’t exist.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,650
    edited July 2018
    Not heard the term. Racist, rightwingers trying to make the term happen to remove the POS-cloud hanging over themselves and their own racist opinions?
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Never heard of it.
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  • mickeyrat
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    good explanation here


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  • Kev - Coat and Keys
    Kev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    edited July 2018
    To me it is like 'reasonable Trump supporter', 'Santa Claus', 'Unicorns' and my chances of being happy and successful.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    to me its anyone who calls you a Nazi, KKK etc for offering a slightly contradictory viewpoint to the Left mindset.  There are whole groups on Facebook infested with these people.  That's right, I said infested.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,381
    edited July 2018
    Idiots that "climb" the statue of liberty and think it will bring change when they just end up annoying people and driving them away from their cause.  Note:  Getting to the base of the feet of the statue of liberty isn't climbing the statue of liberty.  It's crawling.  If I can do it, it isn't climbing.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Jason P said:
    Idiots that "climb" the statue of liberty and think it will bring change when they just end up annoying people and driving them away from their cause.  Note:  Getting to the base of the feet of the statue of liberty isn't climbing the statue of liberty.  It's crawling.  If I can do it, it isn't climbing.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    [1] The First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    A lot of folks seem to forget all about the 1st, so infatuated with the 2nd they seem to be.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    [1] The First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    A lot of folks seem to forget all about the 1st, so infatuated with the 2nd they seem to be.
    Those "folks" are the so-called "good Americans" who love the constitution  until you bring up first amendment rights or the separation of church and state.
  • my2hands
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    [1] The First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    A lot of folks seem to forget all about the 1st, so infatuated with the 2nd they seem to be.
    Those "folks" are the so-called "good Americans" who love the constitution  until you bring up first amendment rights or the separation of church and state.
    Fuck em
  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    vaggar99 said:
    to me its anyone who calls you a Nazi, KKK etc for offering a slightly contradictory viewpoint to the Left mindset.  There are whole groups on Facebook infested with these people.  That's right, I said infested.
    There's not a "slightly contradictory viewpoint" going on here. It's a radical change of this country's established system and laws. To get there, the GOP needed to co-opt racists, religious zealots, and the anti-science idiots.  If someone truly only has a "slightly contradictory viewpoint," then it's incumbent upon them to realize the above, distance themselves, call the above groups out as not sharing your values, and send these groups back to the dark corners of the internet and the ass backwards towns they came from.  I'm not seeing any of that from the political right. You either have a problem with your party, that no longer represents your political and social views, or you're ok with it.  If someone leaning right in their views is sick of bring called a Nazi, racists, KKK, etc.....maybe it's time to stop voting in line with them.  
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited July 2018
    Gtilley8 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    to me its anyone who calls you a Nazi, KKK etc for offering a slightly contradictory viewpoint to the Left mindset.  There are whole groups on Facebook infested with these people.  That's right, I said infested.
    There's not a "slightly contradictory viewpoint" going on here. It's a radical change of this country's established system and laws. To get there, the GOP needed to co-opt racists, religious zealots, and the anti-science idiots.  If someone truly only has a "slightly contradictory viewpoint," then it's incumbent upon them to realize the above, distance themselves, call the above groups out as not sharing your values, and send these groups back to the dark corners of the internet and the ass backwards towns they came from.  I'm not seeing any of that from the political right. You either have a problem with your party, that no longer represents your political and social views, or you're ok with it.  If someone leaning right in their views is sick of bring called a Nazi, racists, KKK, etc.....maybe it's time to stop voting in line with them.  
    "I ain't no Democrat, but sure as hell ain't no fuckin Republican either"
    Post edited by vaggar99 on
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,635
    edited July 2018
    vaggar99 said:
    Gtilley8 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    to me its anyone who calls you a Nazi, KKK etc for offering a slightly contradictory viewpoint to the Left mindset.  There are whole groups on Facebook infested with these people.  That's right, I said infested.
    There's not a "slightly contradictory viewpoint" going on here. It's a radical change of this country's established system and laws. To get there, the GOP needed to co-opt racists, religious zealots, and the anti-science idiots.  If someone truly only has a "slightly contradictory viewpoint," then it's incumbent upon them to realize the above, distance themselves, call the above groups out as not sharing your values, and send these groups back to the dark corners of the internet and the ass backwards towns they came from.  I'm not seeing any of that from the political right. You either have a problem with your party, that no longer represents your political and social views, or you're ok with it.  If someone leaning right in their views is sick of bring called a Nazi, racists, KKK, etc.....maybe it's time to stop voting in line with them.  
    "I ain't no Democrat, but sure as hell ain't no fuckin Republican either"
    From 1984....

    https://youtu.be/Nzguf7WBIM0
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,359
    vaggar99 said:
    Gtilley8 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    to me its anyone who calls you a Nazi, KKK etc for offering a slightly contradictory viewpoint to the Left mindset.  There are whole groups on Facebook infested with these people.  That's right, I said infested.
    There's not a "slightly contradictory viewpoint" going on here. It's a radical change of this country's established system and laws. To get there, the GOP needed to co-opt racists, religious zealots, and the anti-science idiots.  If someone truly only has a "slightly contradictory viewpoint," then it's incumbent upon them to realize the above, distance themselves, call the above groups out as not sharing your values, and send these groups back to the dark corners of the internet and the ass backwards towns they came from.  I'm not seeing any of that from the political right. You either have a problem with your party, that no longer represents your political and social views, or you're ok with it.  If someone leaning right in their views is sick of bring called a Nazi, racists, KKK, etc.....maybe it's time to stop voting in line with them.  
    "I ain't no Democrat, but sure as hell ain't no fuckin Republican either"

    Those that refuse to vote democrat this year for Congress are pertpetuating the Trumpian deathgrip on democracy.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Bentleyspop said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Gtilley8 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    to me its anyone who calls you a Nazi, KKK etc for offering a slightly contradictory viewpoint to the Left mindset.  There are whole groups on Facebook infested with these people.  That's right, I said infested.
    There's not a "slightly contradictory viewpoint" going on here. It's a radical change of this country's established system and laws. To get there, the GOP needed to co-opt racists, religious zealots, and the anti-science idiots.  If someone truly only has a "slightly contradictory viewpoint," then it's incumbent upon them to realize the above, distance themselves, call the above groups out as not sharing your values, and send these groups back to the dark corners of the internet and the ass backwards towns they came from.  I'm not seeing any of that from the political right. You either have a problem with your party, that no longer represents your political and social views, or you're ok with it.  If someone leaning right in their views is sick of bring called a Nazi, racists, KKK, etc.....maybe it's time to stop voting in line with them.  
    "I ain't no Democrat, but sure as hell ain't no fuckin Republican either"
    From 1984....

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,765
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,814
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    I thought AINTFA was the alt-left?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,765
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    I thought AINTFA was the alt-left?
    Could be, though I thought "AINTFA" stands for "Ain't we fuckin' awful". 

    I'm not opposed to radical notions or protest groups in general or sabotage or civil disobedience, etc., but when I think about a group like Antifa that practices extreme hate and violence... well, then I think of John Lennon's words:

    But when you talk about destruction
    Don't you know that you can count me out

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    I thought AINTFA was the alt-left?
    Could be, though I thought "AINTFA" stands for "Ain't we fuckin' awful". 

    I'm not opposed to radical notions or protest groups in general or sabotage or civil disobedience, etc., but when I think about a group like Antifa that practices extreme hate and violence... well, then I think of John Lennon's words:

    But when you talk about destruction
    Don't you know that you can count me out

    I'm not down with Antifa either, but it does seem like we have a few here on this board....no names.  And John Lennon was a wife beater, so maybe his words are a bit hypocritical?
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