Shows are no longer 3 hours/ less encores/less songs? Discuss

nicknyr15 · July 2018

MickeyMouse said:

D-Rod said:

It’s only one show but hopefully we can put this thread to bed

27 songs tonight. Thread back on!

You beat me to it haha. The threads Alive!!!

HughFreakingDillon · July 2018

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Gern Blansten · July 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

He has written some great songs but some of his albums are full of absolute shit as well. Can't really say that about the other major grunge bands.

HughFreakingDillon · July 2018

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

He has written some great songs but some of his albums are full of absolute shit as well. Can't really say that about the other major grunge bands.

they may have had they had more time to do so. it also makes a difference how you treat your fans. if you are insulting your crowd or the town you are playing it, kind of sours the fandome a bit.

lolobugg · July 2018

Let's stop with the Billy hate and get back on topic.

How many songs will be played tonight? 30+ ?

on2legs · July 2018

lolobugg said:

Let's stop with the Billy hate and get back on topic.
How many songs will be played tonight? 30+ ?

30

mcgruff10 · July 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

HughFreakingDillon · July 2018

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

PJ_Soul · July 2018

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

Not that I'm defending Corgan, but just as a side note, I did actually hear that SG reunited for money reasons. Apparently Kim and Ben were kind of hurtin' financially or at least don't have a comfortable retirement fund or whatever, so Chris and Matt said yes to reuniting so that those guys could start earning better money again, at least for a bit. So technically, it could be looked at as a money grab of sorts, if you want to frame it negatively, which Billy Corgan does, always, lol. Don't ask me about the source of that info - I don't remember at all. But it's seems believable, knowing about Kim and Ben's careers.

lolobugg · July 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

PJ_Soul · July 2018

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

I have to agree with this. Not to mention that he's a better vocalist than Cobain. But hey, that is the price he's paid for being a jerk. He basically got excluded from the gang. Seems fair.

HughFreakingDillon · July 2018

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

that is obviously very subjective, but regardless, "hits" aren't what interests in me in a songwriter. what interests me is if someone can turn actualy emotion into a good song.

evenflow82 · July 2018

I say 25 songs tonight.

lolobugg · July 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

that is obviously very subjective, but regardless, "hits" aren't what interests in me in a songwriter. what interests me is if someone can turn actualy emotion into a good song.

Then Billy is better than any of the other 4 for sure. Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie/Adore are pretty much as heart on sleeve as it gets.

HughFreakingDillon · July 2018

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

that is obviously very subjective, but regardless, "hits" aren't what interests in me in a songwriter. what interests me is if someone can turn actualy emotion into a good song.

Then Billy is better than any of the other 4 for sure. Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie/Adore are pretty much as heart on sleeve as it gets.

in your opinion. yes, those albums (well, not Adore-*ducks*) are masterpieces musically and thematically, but they just don't do emotionally to me what Dirt and Ten did. I don't really think i can capture in my head what I'm trying to say here. PJ and AIC (and Mad Season) just resonated with me more emotionally than SP did. I think it was because I found while PJ and AIC were raw emotion put to music, SP had more a produced sheen to their records (I know, I know, the same argument could be made about Ten). As much as I loved those SP records back then, I don't find I reach for them as often as I do the others, probably because of the emotional attachment. Same with Facelift. Great record. Doesn't do it for me emotionally. My most-listened to AIC record is probably Unplugged.

Maybe we should start a separate thread on this. LOL

lolobugg · July 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

that is obviously very subjective, but regardless, "hits" aren't what interests in me in a songwriter. what interests me is if someone can turn actualy emotion into a good song.

Then Billy is better than any of the other 4 for sure. Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie/Adore are pretty much as heart on sleeve as it gets.

in your opinion. yes, those albums (well, not Adore-*ducks*) are masterpieces musically and thematically, but they just don't do emotionally to me what Dirt and Ten did. I don't really think i can capture in my head what I'm trying to say here. PJ and AIC (and Mad Season) just resonated with me more emotionally than SP did. I think it was because I found while PJ and AIC were raw emotion put to music, SP had more a produced sheen to their records (I know, I know, the same argument could be made about Ten). As much as I loved those SP records back then, I don't find I reach for them as often as I do the others, probably because of the emotional attachment. Same with Facelift. Great record. Doesn't do it for me emotionally. My most-listened to AIC record is probably Unplugged.

Maybe we should start a separate thread on this. LOL

You described how I feel about the SP albums. yeah, I better stop before I get a warning about thread integrity.

anyway. so far 28 songs in tonight's show and still going.

northerndragon · July 2018

lolobugg said:

Let's stop with the Billy hate and get back on topic.
How many songs will be played tonight? 30+ ?

But the Billy hate is more fun.

northerndragon · July 2018

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

Shame

mwplum · July 2018

lolobugg said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

evenflow82 said:

Yes, I remember he was mad Ed put out a song about the Cubs and they were playing Wrigley Field. My guess is there was/is some jealousy involved since he is a big Cubs fan. He also ragged on Soundgarden for reuniting and called it a cash grab (It wasn't, and he is doing the exact same thing now). He has also called PJ social justice warriors (is that an insult?) and has been a guest on Alex Jones' show multiple times prescribing to some way out theories.

Regardless, I hope PJ keeps the longer shows going...especially for Seattle.

he has been, and I guess always will be, jealous that he didn't achieve the same amount of fame as the Big Four. he has literally stated he is the greatest songwriter of that generation. anyone who says that needs to be shamed.

Who’s the big four? Cornell, Vedder, cobain and?

Staley

He's a better songwriter than Staley/Cantrell and probably edges out Cornell when it comes to writing hits.

I know this may not be popular, but if I was to pick 4 from that generation, the fourth would be Noel Gallagher

ikiT · July 2018

1979 may be the finest song ever recorded.

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