A wealthy Bernie

Spiritual_Chaos said:

unsung said:

Things are not really free.

What is it that he proposes that other western nations have not been able to do and figure out?

Do you believe we over here also "do not know basic econ"?

How do you think Europe works? By some kind of magic?

@unsung

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

Democratic socialists actually aren't against people making income. Wtf?

Only to a certain point, then it is enough.

You know that is false. Nothing about wanting a progressive income tax and less starving children means wealthy have to stop making $

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

Democratic socialists actually aren't against people making income. Wtf?

Only to a certain point, then it is enough.

Individual wealth really isn't the issue. The problem as democratic socialists see it is that corporations make billions in profits while their workers are not getting paid enough to even live a middle class life. If one wants to think of that in terms of the actual CEOs and whatnot getting millions in bonuses every year while they continue to pay workers shit wages, then sure, I suppose you're right.... But who in their right mind thinks that is a good system that creates a thriving economy and population??

my2hands said:

Unsung supports CEO's and trust fund babies over the working man I guess

pretty sure he just supports your right to accomplish as you wish in a free market system. and I'd agree with that if the playing field were level. 

unsung said:

Some of you might need a better job if you are standing by waiting on me to respond, I actually have a busy life.

Europe.  I wouldn"t call Europe success.  Every country is being invaded by people that have no desire to be Europeans.  I just read of another gang rape of some young Swedish girl that was broadcast on fb live for three hours.  Shockingly enough none of the rapists were European.

I was in Tallinn Estonia back in 04 hanging out with this Russian girl.  She asked where I was staying and I told her the hotel and she said that place is expensive.  I told her it was a little under $200 a night.  She said that was more than she made in a month.  

But her college was free and when she got sick she didn't have any medical bills!

Do you really think people are doing that???

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my2hands said:

Unsung supports CEO's and trust fund babies over the working man I guess

pretty sure he just supports your right to accomplish as you wish in a free market system. and I'd agree with that if the playing field were level. 

Everyone can be what they want to.  People are given equal starts, the results are what they put into it.  Surely that isn't absolute but I would say if you work for something you can attain it 

You're joking, right? ... Oh wait, I see, you're speaking from the perspective of a racist and someone who only really cares about himself and his own welfare, I almost forgot.

unsung said:

Some of you might need a better job if you are standing by waiting on me to respond, I actually have a busy life.

Europe.  I wouldn"t call Europe success.  Every country is being invaded by people that have no desire to be Europeans.  I just read of another gang rape of some young Swedish girl that was broadcast on fb live for three hours.  Shockingly enough none of the rapists were European.

I was in Tallinn Estonia back in 04 hanging out with this Russian girl.  She asked where I was staying and I told her the hotel and she said that place is expensive.  I told her it was a little under $200 a night.  She said that was more than she made in a month.  

But her college was free and when she got sick she didn't have any medical bills!

You typed this xenophobic stuff with a straight face? 

unsung said:

Woe is me.  Pity party.  It's everyone's fault but my own.

Sorry, I worked for everything I have.

Oh an admitted Commie called me a racist, my heart hurts.

Did someone say you haven’t worked? I’ve worked since I was a teenager. Does that make me special in some way?

unsung said:

Woe is me.  Pity party.  It's everyone's fault but my own.

Sorry, I worked for everything I have.

Oh an admitted Commie called me a racist, my heart hurts.

unless you were abdandoned as a baby and raised by wolves, no,  you didn't work for everything you have. even in that event you were taught how to survive and skills from said wolves. you were "given" those skills to apply to working for what you have. 

well generally when someone is born into poverty, it's not their fault. they also work for everything, but they don't have the same opportunities at advancement in society that you (presumably) and I do. 

same goes for someone born rich. they have obvious advantages. I don't bemoan them for it anymore than I bemoan someone born into poverty. it's just a cold hard fact. 

I started out in a middle class family. I am now a middle class family of my own. it's incredibly difficult and rare to move classes, especially the lower on the economic scale you are. this is not disputable.