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flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
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Bernie has made over 2 million dollars since his "loss" in the Democratic primaries. Not bad for a socialist. Some interesting tidbits in the article :

*   In 2014, Sanders gave 4 percent of his income to nonprofits (seems kind of low for someone who wants to spread the wealth)
*   Sanders formed his own “dark money” group at the same time he railed against 501(c)4s, which are not required to publicly disclose financial information
*   The senator owns three homes, including a retreat in the Lake Champlain islands (dachas ?)
*   "like many Vermonters he and Jane have a camp on Lake Champlain.”

https://vtdigger.org/2018/06/22/second-year-sanders-earns-1m/
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,013
    Has he grabbed women bY the pussY and have a gangster lawYer paYing off pornstars?
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719

    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Bernie-Sanders-called-a-hypocrite-for-owning-three-homes


    Why is Bernie Sanders called a hypocrite for owning three homes?

    It’s because the folks calling him a hypocrite either don’t understand what social democracy/democratic socialism means, or they want to promote misunderstandings about it in order to thwart the intentions of his supporters.They heard ‘socialism’, and remembered hearing once that it meant the government takes all your stuff and you have nothing, and decided that if Sanders has property and is a social democrat, he’s being somehow inconsistent.The problem with this sort of thing is that’s not what Sanders is saying when he promotes democratic socialism/social democracy in policy terms. Also, this is a misconception his political opponents are keen to promote, given that the facts are otherwise not on their side.The policies Sanders does promote are actually wildly popular among American voters:Getting money (and corruption) out of politics enjoys significant support[1][2].Publicly-funded health care does too (~64% favor this[3] )Publicly-funded higher education(~60% [4] )Keeping our infrastructure maintained(72% [5])Taxing the very wealthy at higher rates than we do today (~61% think they pay too little [6] )On top of all these things, Bernie Sanders is by far the most popular politician in America and this is a damned problem for the folks who don’t want to see his legislative agenda advanced. This is why they’re devoting their efforts to smear him, to proclaim him somehow corrupt or on the take- because if they argue policy against him, they lose.So that’s why they’re telling you it’s unreasonable for a US Senator to have multiple homes (even though every senator keeps a home in DC). The reality is that he and is wife inherited a home in Maine (where they don’t live), and recently sold it to buy one in Vermont, where he lives.
    Social democracy doesn’t mean you can’t have money or wealth, and there’s nothing nefarious about having a family cabin on the lake at his age and the thought that social democrats can’t be social democrats and have nice things is a specious double-standard.Knowing they’ll lose if they argue on policy, they’ve decided to shoot at the messenger and hope to avoid the whole conversation.

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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    He's a fraud just like the rest of them.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    brianlux said:

    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Bernie-Sanders-called-a-hypocrite-for-owning-three-homes


    Why is Bernie Sanders called a hypocrite for owning three homes?

    It’s because the folks calling him a hypocrite either don’t understand what social democracy/democratic socialism means, or they want to promote misunderstandings about it in order to thwart the intentions of his supporters.

    They heard ‘socialism’, and remembered hearing once that it meant the government takes all your stuff and you have nothing, and decided that if Sanders has property and is a social democrat, he’s being somehow inconsistent.

    The problem with this sort of thing is that’s not what Sanders is saying when he promotes democratic socialism/social democracy in policy terms. Also, this is a misconception his political opponents are keen to promote, given that the facts are otherwise not on their side.

    The policies Sanders does promote are actually wildly popular among American voters:

    • Getting money (and corruption) out of politics enjoys significant support[1][2].
    • Publicly-funded health care does too (~64% favor this[3] )
    • Publicly-funded higher education(~60% [4] )
    • Keeping our infrastructure maintained(72% [5])
    • Taxing the very wealthy at higher rates than we do today (~61% think they pay too little [6] )

    On top of all these things, Bernie Sanders is by far the most popular politician in America and this is a damned problem for the folks who don’t want to see his legislative agenda advanced. This is why they’re devoting their efforts to smear him, to proclaim him somehow corrupt or on the take- because if they argue policy against him, they lose.

    So that’s why they’re telling you it’s unreasonable for a US Senator to have multiple homes (even though every senator keeps a home in DC). The reality is that he and is wife inherited a home in Maine (where they don’t live), and recently sold it to buy one in Vermont, where he lives.
    Social democracy doesn’t mean you can’t have money or wealth, and there’s nothing nefarious about having a family cabin on the lake at his age and the thought that social democrats can’t be social democrats and have nice things is a specious double-standard.

    Knowing they’ll lose if they argue on policy, they’ve decided to shoot at the messenger and hope to avoid the whole conversation.



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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    unsung said:
    He's a fraud just like the rest of them.

    Halifax2TheMax said:
    brianlux said:

    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Bernie-Sanders-called-a-hypocrite-for-owning-three-homes


    Why is Bernie Sanders called a hypocrite for owning three homes?

    It’s because the folks calling him a hypocrite either don’t understand what social democracy/democratic socialism means, or they want to promote misunderstandings about it in order to thwart the intentions of his supporters.

    They heard ‘socialism’, and remembered hearing once that it meant the government takes all your stuff and you have nothing, and decided that if Sanders has property and is a social democrat, he’s being somehow inconsistent.

    The problem with this sort of thing is that’s not what Sanders is saying when he promotes democratic socialism/social democracy in policy terms. Also, this is a misconception his political opponents are keen to promote, given that the facts are otherwise not on their side.

    The policies Sanders does promote are actually wildly popular among American voters:

    • Getting money (and corruption) out of politics enjoys significant support[1][2].
    • Publicly-funded health care does too (~64% favor this[3] )
    • Publicly-funded higher education(~60% [4] )
    • Keeping our infrastructure maintained(72% [5])
    • Taxing the very wealthy at higher rates than we do today (~61% think they pay too little [6] )

    On top of all these things, Bernie Sanders is by far the most popular politician in America and this is a damned problem for the folks who don’t want to see his legislative agenda advanced. This is why they’re devoting their efforts to smear him, to proclaim him somehow corrupt or on the take- because if they argue policy against him, they lose.

    So that’s why they’re telling you it’s unreasonable for a US Senator to have multiple homes (even though every senator keeps a home in DC). The reality is that he and is wife inherited a home in Maine (where they don’t live), and recently sold it to buy one in Vermont, where he lives.
    Social democracy doesn’t mean you can’t have money or wealth, and there’s nothing nefarious about having a family cabin on the lake at his age and the thought that social democrats can’t be social democrats and have nice things is a specious double-standard.

    Knowing they’ll lose if they argue on policy, they’ve decided to shoot at the messenger and hope to avoid the whole conversation.



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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Bernie owns a cabin??? Oh. My. God!!!! OUTRAGE!!!!!!!

    Is this for real? lol
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    When I said he was a fraud it wasn't because he has a cabin, it is because he doesn't know basic econ.

    Jesus do we have to start hearing about this clown already?
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    He's a true socialist living high on the tax payers $$$$
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    edited June 2018
    my2hands said:
    Bernie owns a cabin??? Oh. My. God!!!! OUTRAGE!!!!!!!

    Is this for real? lol
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    I dont know anyone who doesnt own a $600,00 third home/cabin. He probably saved the money by not getting haircuts for 50 years.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    Bernie's delightful vacation cabin!


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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    if he was only making a modest living, he'd be called a naive fool by the right.  better to have money in the hands of someone like Bernie than a fuckwad like Trump.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    vaggar99 said:
    if he was only making a modest living, he'd be called a naive fool by the right.  better to have money in the hands of someone like Bernie than a fuckwad like Trump.
    I love how the repubes extoll people to pull themselves up by their boot straps and make something of themselves and then when a liberal does it, actually lives it, they tear them down and ridicule them. Carter, Bill and Hillary Clinton and Obama come to mind while they laude GHW and W Bush and Team Trump Treason. Fucking hypocrites.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    vaggar99 said:
    if he was only making a modest living, he'd be called a naive fool by the right.  better to have money in the hands of someone like Bernie than a fuckwad like Trump.
    I totally agree. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    At the time Sanders ran for president, he was the 19th poorest member of the Senate- 80 others had more (in many cases LOTS more) money than Sanders.

    So he lost the race, probably won't run again and has more money now?  Who cares?  Why are we even talking about Bernie Sanders' money?

    Oh, that's right.  He's one of those dirty  (shh, say it quietly) liberals.
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    edited June 2018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Has he grabbed women bY the pussY and have a gangster lawYer paYing off pornstars?
    Your 'Y' key seems to have taken on a mind of its own lately. :get_outta_here:
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418

    brianlux said:
    At the time Sanders ran for president, he was the 19th poorest member of the Senate- 80 others had more (in many cases LOTS more) money than Sanders.

    So he lost the race, probably won't run again and has more money now?  Who cares?  Why are we even talking about Bernie Sanders' money?

    Oh, that's right.  He's one of those dirty  (shh, say it quietly) liberals.
    You mean "libtard" :lol:
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    HesCalledDyer said:

    brianlux said:
    At the time Sanders ran for president, he was the 19th poorest member of the Senate- 80 others had more (in many cases LOTS more) money than Sanders.

    So he lost the race, probably won't run again and has more money now?  Who cares?  Why are we even talking about Bernie Sanders' money?

    Oh, that's right.  He's one of those dirty  (shh, say it quietly) liberals.
    You mean "libtard" :lol:
    LOL, yeah!  In fact, f'n libtard!  :lol:
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    He's a career politician ... of course he's wealthy.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:
    HesCalledDyer said:

    brianlux said:
    At the time Sanders ran for president, he was the 19th poorest member of the Senate- 80 others had more (in many cases LOTS more) money than Sanders.

    So he lost the race, probably won't run again and has more money now?  Who cares?  Why are we even talking about Bernie Sanders' money?

    Oh, that's right.  He's one of those dirty  (shh, say it quietly) liberals.
    You mean "libtard" :lol:
    LOL, yeah!  In fact, f'n libtard!  :lol:
    It’s “libtart” now, dude :)
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    Libtard=vaggar99
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    vaggar99 said:
    Libtard=vaggar99
    I'm in.

    Call me Libtardelux
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,013
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Has he grabbed women bY the pussY and have a gangster lawYer paYing off pornstars?
    Your 'Y' key seems to have taken on a mind of its own lately. :get_outta_here:
    It's my macbook. Spilled tea on the keyboard. 

    Now - on my work laptop - no problems :) 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,013
    unsung said:
    When I said he was a fraud it wasn't because he has a cabin, it is because he doesn't know basic econ.

    Jesus do we have to start hearing about this clown already?
    What is wrong about his "basic econ"?
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Things are not really free.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    Things are not really free.
    Nobody claims they are free in the way you mean it.  
    That just makes a convenient talking point to rebut.

    Bernie, and everyone else with a brain, understands that "free" means without immediate cost to the beneficiary.  

    "There's no such thing as a free lunch" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Lemme guess, tax the rich?
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    Lemme guess, tax the rich?
    Of course.  That's what every functioning and strong society does.  Point me to an example of a decent case that proves otherwise.
    It's incontrovertible that America's strongest periods coincide with high marginal tax rates.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    It looks like the attacks and manipulation has already begun
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    Lemme guess, tax the rich?
    Of course.  That's what every functioning and strong society does.  Point me to an example of a decent case that proves otherwise.
    It's incontrovertible that America's strongest periods coincide with high marginal tax rates.
    The answer for all of the problems.
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