Of course. That's what every functioning and strong society does. Point me to an example of a decent case that proves otherwise. It's incontrovertible that America's strongest periods coincide with high marginal tax rates.
The answer for all of the problems.
It works. You are still welcome (3 years or so running now) to provide an example that there's a better answer.
Except the entire expansion of the country was based on government subsidies. There is no such thing as a free market. Has never existed anywhere ever.
Of course. That's what every functioning and strong society does. Point me to an example of a decent case that proves otherwise. It's incontrovertible that America's strongest periods coincide with high marginal tax rates.
The answer for all of the problems.
not all, but it's a good start.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
In 2016 I saw people around the world wearing Bernie shirts, while not seeing any Trump/Clinton ones. If he got any of that money he deserves all his wealth.
Plus if he has this 'undeserved' wealth, all he needs to do is squeeze in a few bankruptcies and he can run for the R ticket and win easy!
Except the entire expansion of the country was based on government subsidies. There is no such thing as a free market. Has never existed anywhere ever.
Bingo
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Democratic socialists actually aren't against people making income. Wtf?
Only to a certain point, then it is enough.
I am generally not comfortable with people having what I think of as obscene amounts of money, so much money that they can't possible spend it all if they went shopping all day. On the other hand, if a multi-billionaire used their money, influence and power to find a way to do one or more of the following: clean the plastic out of the oceans, slow the unnatural rate of species decline, clean up the air and water, end global warming, resolve homeless issues, end hunger, end racism, end endless war, then yes, I would be most grateful for that person having all that money. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, I'm told, do a pretty good job trying. I wouldn't mind seeing a lot more of that.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Democratic socialists actually aren't against people making income. Wtf?
Only to a certain point, then it is enough.
Individual wealth really isn't the issue. The problem as democratic socialists see it is that corporations make billions in profits while their workers are not getting paid enough to even live a middle class life. If one wants to think of that in terms of the actual CEOs and whatnot getting millions in bonuses every year while they continue to pay workers shit wages, then sure, I suppose you're right.... But who in their right mind thinks that is a good system that creates a thriving economy and population??
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Unsung supports CEO's and trust fund babies over the working man I guess
pretty sure he just supports your right to accomplish as you wish in a free market system. and I'd agree with that if the playing field were level.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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Some of you might need a better job if you are standing by waiting on me to respond, I actually have a busy life.
Europe. I wouldn"t call Europe success. Every country is being invaded by people that have no desire to be Europeans. I just read of another gang rape of some young Swedish girl that was broadcast on fb live for three hours. Shockingly enough none of the rapists were European.
I was in Tallinn Estonia back in 04 hanging out with this Russian girl. She asked where I was staying and I told her the hotel and she said that place is expensive. I told her it was a little under $200 a night. She said that was more than she made in a month.
But her college was free and when she got sick she didn't have any medical bills!
Some of you might need a better job if you are standing by waiting on me to respond, I actually have a busy life.
Europe. I wouldn"t call Europe success. Every country is being invaded by people that have no desire to be Europeans. I just read of another gang rape of some young Swedish girl that was broadcast on fb live for three hours. Shockingly enough none of the rapists were European.
I was in Tallinn Estonia back in 04 hanging out with this Russian girl. She asked where I was staying and I told her the hotel and she said that place is expensive. I told her it was a little under $200 a night. She said that was more than she made in a month.
But her college was free and when she got sick she didn't have any medical bills!
Do you really think people are doing that???
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Unsung supports CEO's and trust fund babies over the working man I guess
pretty sure he just supports your right to accomplish as you wish in a free market system. and I'd agree with that if the playing field were level.
Everyone can be what they want to. People are given equal starts, the results are what they put into it. Surely that isn't absolute but I would say if you work for something you can attain it
Unsung supports CEO's and trust fund babies over the working man I guess
pretty sure he just supports your right to accomplish as you wish in a free market system. and I'd agree with that if the playing field were level.
Everyone can be what they want to. People are given equal starts, the results are what they put into it. Surely that isn't absolute but I would say if you work for something you can attain it
You're joking, right? ... Oh wait, I see, you're speaking from the perspective of a racist and someone who only really cares about himself and his own welfare, I almost forgot.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Unsung supports CEO's and trust fund babies over the working man I guess
pretty sure he just supports your right to accomplish as you wish in a free market system. and I'd agree with that if the playing field were level.
Everyone can be what they want to. People are given equal starts, the results are what they put into it. Surely that isn't absolute but I would say if you work for something you can attain it
so you believe that donald trump and I had equal starts?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Some of you might need a better job if you are standing by waiting on me to respond, I actually have a busy life.
Europe. I wouldn"t call Europe success. Every country is being invaded by people that have no desire to be Europeans. I just read of another gang rape of some young Swedish girl that was broadcast on fb live for three hours. Shockingly enough none of the rapists were European.
I was in Tallinn Estonia back in 04 hanging out with this Russian girl. She asked where I was staying and I told her the hotel and she said that place is expensive. I told her it was a little under $200 a night. She said that was more than she made in a month.
But her college was free and when she got sick she didn't have any medical bills!
You typed this xenophobic stuff with a straight face?
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Woe is me. Pity party. It's everyone's fault but my own.
Sorry, I worked for everything I have.
Oh an admitted Commie called me a racist, my heart hurts.
Woe is me. Pity party. It's everyone's fault but my own.
Sorry, I worked for everything I have.
Oh an admitted Commie called me a racist, my heart hurts.
Who's an admitted Commie? Someone besides me called you a racist? They must have, because I'm no admitted Commie.
Hmmn, well I could have sworn you said that, but if not I issue a retraction and a wholehearted apology. Please accept that.
I'm not a racist btw, but that word have lost it's sting because everyone right of Elizabeth Warren is either a racist or a Nazi according to the left in 2018.
Woe is me. Pity party. It's everyone's fault but my own.
Sorry, I worked for everything I have.
Oh an admitted Commie called me a racist, my heart hurts.
unless you were abdandoned as a baby and raised by wolves, no, you didn't work for everything you have. even in that event you were taught how to survive and skills from said wolves. you were "given" those skills to apply to working for what you have.
well generally when someone is born into poverty, it's not their fault. they also work for everything, but they don't have the same opportunities at advancement in society that you (presumably) and I do.
same goes for someone born rich. they have obvious advantages. I don't bemoan them for it anymore than I bemoan someone born into poverty. it's just a cold hard fact.
I started out in a middle class family. I am now a middle class family of my own. it's incredibly difficult and rare to move classes, especially the lower on the economic scale you are. this is not disputable.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Woe is me. Pity party. It's everyone's fault but my own.
Sorry, I worked for everything I have.
Oh an admitted Commie called me a racist, my heart hurts.
Who's an admitted Commie? Someone besides me called you a racist? They must have, because I'm no admitted Commie.
Hmmn, well I could have sworn you said that, but if not I issue a retraction and a wholehearted apology. Please accept that.
I'm not a racist btw, but that word have lost it's sting because everyone right of Elizabeth Warren is either a racist or a Nazi according to the left in 2018.
Okay thanks I guess. I definitely never said I was a Commie .... I am calling you that because of your very own words over time in this forum, not at all because I think everyone right of left is racist. I don't think that at all. You seem to have mistaken me for an illogical moron. FYI, I'm not.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Do you believe we over here also "do not know basic econ"?
How do you think Europe works? By some kind of magic?
You are still welcome (3 years or so running now) to provide an example that there's a better answer.
-EV 8/14/93
If he got any of that money he deserves all his wealth.
Plus if he has this 'undeserved' wealth, all he needs to do is squeeze in a few bankruptcies and he can run for the R ticket and win easy!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
-EV 8/14/93
Europe. I wouldn"t call Europe success. Every country is being invaded by people that have no desire to be Europeans. I just read of another gang rape of some young Swedish girl that was broadcast on fb live for three hours. Shockingly enough none of the rapists were European.
I was in Tallinn Estonia back in 04 hanging out with this Russian girl. She asked where I was staying and I told her the hotel and she said that place is expensive. I told her it was a little under $200 a night. She said that was more than she made in a month.
But her college was free and when she got sick she didn't have any medical bills!
-EV 8/14/93
Sorry, I worked for everything I have.
Oh an admitted Commie called me a racist, my heart hurts.
I'm not a racist btw, but that word have lost it's sting because everyone right of Elizabeth Warren is either a racist or a Nazi according to the left in 2018.
well generally when someone is born into poverty, it's not their fault. they also work for everything, but they don't have the same opportunities at advancement in society that you (presumably) and I do.
same goes for someone born rich. they have obvious advantages. I don't bemoan them for it anymore than I bemoan someone born into poverty. it's just a cold hard fact.
I started out in a middle class family. I am now a middle class family of my own. it's incredibly difficult and rare to move classes, especially the lower on the economic scale you are. this is not disputable.
-EV 8/14/93